Yeah there are gurus out there, that don't know their *** from a hole in the wall. These systems however are a one time buy and I get to use it for life. I don't waste money on any list services, my buyers list has grown exponentially without any real networking, some time on a phone call, then for some of them yeah we meet up and discuss business in person. So just today I got a call from a guy letting me know he didn't want to sell the house I mailed about as he was going to live there, but had me come down to look at the house he was moving out from, then while on appointment I have another house to go look at. The owner is out of state so we are just trying to figure out how I can see the inside. So does it work, yeah it works, and like I said anywhere anytime I can pull a list, some of the list services out there charge for one list what the full membership cost me, so I don't give a rat's *** what Kent is making on this, as I am going to make my money back multiple times over. I got the whole smart suite, I can look for cash buyers vacant homes, and people that lended their money. You can mail right from it, or export a csv list to upload to your own mail house. Or hell go ahead print and stuff your own envelopes. It is systems to scale not guru type ********.