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All Forum Posts by: Kay H.

Kay H. has started 22 posts and replied 59 times.

Post: Please help me avoid angry yellow letter callers

Kay H.Posted
  • chicago , IL
  • Posts 61
  • Votes 3
Originally posted by @John Horner:


You will always have angry callers, just comes with the territory.



I would never tell them you are more looking for houses that need repairs. You would be surprised how many people will call you back in 6 months because they have found themselves in a distressed position.



If you tell them right off the bat that you only buy properties in physical distress, they will throw your card away and when they are in a distressed situation, you won't be the investor they call.



You can't create motivation. Many times my partner and I will actually explain our buying formula to them. We will tell them exactly what our expenses are and how much we need to make for it to be worth it. If they are motivated they will respect you being honest and just be happy you helping them out of a bad situation.



Good luck!


Ok. So if I don't tell them I am looking for properties that need repairs or people in distress, how do I get the unmotivated sellers off the phone? What do I say. I have no idea what budget I'm looking to spend...but I could make one up.

I dont have realtor to send people to and I am not looking to buy subject to or lease option. So what do I say to get unmotivated sellers off the phone and stil make it so that they may call me later on.

Post: Please help me avoid angry yellow letter callers

Kay H.Posted
  • chicago , IL
  • Posts 61
  • Votes 3

ok. So. I sent out about 700 yellow letters this month. I feel like I need a better script. I say to people do you have a house to sell? I don't really like asking for names and addresses up front because people usually get angry thinking you should know their name and address already.

Anyway once I determine that the caller has a renovated house and it looking for retail value. I say oh I'm sorry we are more so looking for houses that may need repairs. Then I say can you tell me your address so I can take your name off my list? I get a NO.

Sometimes people say things like....aww you're looking for houses for nothing...well I guess some people have to do that for a job....

And I kind of feel bad after those calls. Can someone help me. Is this normal ?

Originally posted by @Adrian Tilley:
@Kay H. What mailing was this? First? Eighth? What list were you using? How much time/money did you spend? These things all make a difference.

This was the first mailing. Mailed absentee owners. I spent like 269.00 on the 200 letters

any takers? is this not a good ratio?

is this horrible? I only have one appointment I'm going on out of sending 200 lenders. Tell me guys, is this normal?

Post: I can't seem to get a deal. How many offers does it take???

Kay H.Posted
  • chicago , IL
  • Posts 61
  • Votes 3

Ok so help me out here. How many offers does it typically take to get a deal? I hear its a numbers game. I've visited 3 fsbos, given 3 offers and all I get is people not answering my phone calls afterwards, saying no I can't do that or saying...you know what, I think we will fix it up and resell it ourselves. What's happening? Are these people just not that motivated or am I do doing something wrong?

My offers are right where they need to be according to the MLS.

Post: Ideas on Gettting More Money for Marketing

Kay H.Posted
  • chicago , IL
  • Posts 61
  • Votes 3
Originally posted by @Dev Horn:
Yellow letters generate calls, but they are often from UNMOTIVATED sellers. Exactly what you're experiencing, right? So change your marketing strategy rather than throwing MORE $ at the one that is NOT working (you just told us that!).

Look at some of the new postcards offered by a turnkey provider like yellowletters.com. But whether you use letters or PCs, you need to convey the right message to get the right people to call you. It's not "I LOVE your house and want to $BUY$ it!" (which screams "I will pay full retail price!"). The MOTIVATED SELLER message is:

1) Get CASH
2) FAST
3) Without making any REPAIRS
4) + no need to pay off liens, closing costs, etc.

And only go after people with 40% or more equity with that MOTIVATED SELLER message.

And to your original question, we see that people that don't have a marketing budget of at LEAST $500 per month are going to STRUGGLE in this business and likely fail. It is a MARKETING CHALLENGE to find these deals we're all looking for. Set aside a portion of your tax return to invest in your BUSINESS, in your MARKETING, and you should do well IF you stick to a SOLID STRATEGY for at LEAST 6 months.

“The greater the effort, the greater the glory.” ~ Pierre Corneille

Ok. So if I plan for 500.00 a month, that should get me some deals? I think I can do that. what do you think about saving up for buying and holding though. I assume if I just saved money rather than trying to do deals it would take me a lot longer to get the money in my account. Of course 500.00 over 6 months could have been quite a hefty down payment on a rental. Is it possible to wholesale and save for a rental?

Post: Ideas on Gettting More Money for Marketing

Kay H.Posted
  • chicago , IL
  • Posts 61
  • Votes 3

Ok. so I did my first deal 1 month ago from calling FSBO ads. but now it seems FSBOS are just not that motivated. I've gone and made appointments, given offers, just to get turned down. One lady is not even returning my calls.

I figure I need to amp up my marketing. I bought 200 yellow letters from a yellow letter company. I intend to buy 200 more with my next check. however, part of me feels I shouldnt even be doing this since 400 letters a month probably wont get me a deal. I need a way to generate more volume.

I got my income tax check...but I want to save that money for a down payment on a rental...I think that's wise.

Any advise??

ok. Looks like I'm going to need a little money first for emergencies. I will see if I can get some wholesale deals under my belt

steve and Vanessa, you too are so inspiring. I have been trying to get my internet business off the ground for years. I freelance wrote for websites. And started to create amazon sites. I bought a mentor who is helping me get some affiliate marketing and list building finally going. However some days I'm doing mailings trying to find real estate deals. I'm calling fsbos and looking at properties. Some days I'm saying to myself I need more money to buy the deals and then I go back to man I wish I had put more effort into the internet marketing then I would have more money. Now they are doing layoffs at my job and I too have considered selling shoes at macys because of the job market and I have a degree.

Lol. But I do think rei is more stable than internet marketing. I would like to get both going actually.