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All Forum Posts by: Kay H.

Kay H. has started 22 posts and replied 59 times.

Originally posted by @Mark Forest:

m trying to get into mult-family and maybe I am naive, but why can't you go to the owner with your numbers and show him it does not work at his price? 

 It would be great if I could that.... I only I didn't need the seller concession that is greater with the higher price....

Originally posted by @Barbara G.:

@kay Hamilton

I see what you are saying

Suppose you just look at this as a flip.

If you add up your entire rehab costs and add it to the price of the house you bought (cost + rhab)  will you come out of this with  profit?  What do the real estate comps say about your house rehabbed. What price can you selll this house for once it is rehabbed?   Does this give you a reasonable profit??

When you occupy the apartment will you be figuring your rent at market value, after all you do have to pay rent?  Then you have to add your profit or subtract your loss to the end selling price.  If you made some cash add it, if you lost cash subtrract it.  

I don't know if I am explaining this correctly?

Where are you after you do this?

 Well this is in south philly, a hot spot right now. There's a comp about .5 miles away that sold for 400,000 dollars. There's a comp a bit closer that sold for 270k buts it's probably in similar condition. There's another ones also for 400k.

I don't really have to rehab. One tenant has even living there since 2008 and she's fine. But to get cash flow I would have to either rehab and raise rent or refinance.

I guess my exit strategy would be to sell.

It's a little hard considering I have to live in the place. I just really like the area for living.

Originally posted by @Barbara G.:

We bought 2 Duplexes.  Side by side, identical duplexes.  Our first buy.

last year. for 2014 we used all the cash flow (approx 24,000)  to do maintanence on the property  The houses were 25 years old and nothing had been done.  We did major stuff and used all the cash flow to do 1 new roof, gutters, front, 3  bathrooms replaced 3 major appliances and one co kitchen and apartment when there was a vacancy for 2 months.  We spent all the cash flow on the improvements,  but did not use any of our money.  We still have almost one more year of renovations that probably will leave us nothing out of the cash flow for 2015. or almost all of the 2nd year.

We feel the 2 houses will have appreciated at least 100,000 (for the 2) when we are finished. Tax wise We got a $5,000 tax write off that we needed and we paid approx $2,000 off on our principal.  

We put 25% down approx $83.000 and the 3rd year our cash flow should be approx $20, 000 0r $22,000a year with the 2 upleses  worth $100.000 or $125,000 more.  Now is this a bad deal, a so so deal or a good deal???  We self manage it, general contract it, know consturction, and do handi man work on it

What does BP think here

 this sounds like a good deal to me. However, I'm not sure if you're saying its similar to my deal due to the appreciation and what you had to put into it or if you are showing an example of a deal thats opposite of mine because you didnt have to use your own money. 

where I live: New Jersey/Philadelphia it would be difficult to find a property that cashflowed like this with an FHA loan.

I see what the other members are saying, but is it very unrealistic to take an FHA down to and 80% ltv by refinancing?? that's all I would need to positive cash flow. all the other stuff..rehabing etc would be extra but the miminum thats needed is to refi.

Hi guys. I'm in the process of purchasing a property, but I just realized it has negative cash flow when I factor in the maintenance and vacancies. However, I think one of the main reasons it has negative cash flow is because I'm going fha and I am putting a small out of money down, which makes the principal and interest payment higher than it would be if i had put down 20% in a conventional loan. I think the deal could improve over time if I refinance into conventional down the line and put more money down.  What do you think? Here are the numbers: 

purchase price is 270,000 

property is a triplex with all 3 units already rented to long term tenants. the bottom tenant is moving out and that is where I will be living for a year. 

Principal and interest is 1300.00

taxes are 2400 a year

insurance is 1800 a year

rents come out to 2100 per month total for all three units.

down payment is 3.5%

Here are a few bonuses

the property is in a really good neighborhood that is up and coming and this is a neighborhood I personally would want to live in for the next year. 

Also, the units are outdated: old kitchens, carpet, etc. With some rehabbing, I could raise the rent so that the total rent for all three units is about 2500 per month. 

So after i move out and get my unit rented. I think I'm looking at about a negative 169 a year or so. but if I refinance, pay down the mortgage and get rid of the PMI, things could look better.

Is this doable? Is this a bad deal? what are your thoughts on this? 

yes. that makes sense. what i have been doing instead is spending the extra money on marketing so that now i dont have any savings. not a good idea. 

Hey, need a little advice here. I've been wanting to by my first rental property, and as I newbie to investing, of course I started wholesaling. I've been wholesaling for about 6 months got a couple deals in the works but recently I bumped into an agent and i realized I had strayed from the goal of getting a rental. So I have like no savings because I'm spending everything on marketing, and i'm wondering if i should continue to do that. Should i roll the dice and hope i get a big wholesale deal or put my energies into saving money and maybe working overtime so i can afford the downpayment myself. 

what do you think? 

Originally posted by @Gregory Tran:

Are you going to do commission based sales now as well?

Congratulations on getting started.  It can only help in your real estate endeavors :P

Yes, I plan on doing commission sales as well. At first I wanted it just for access to the mls. But the class is showing me  you could make easier money than wholesaling 

I'm so excited!!!!  I was wholesaling but now I'm going to get some real credibility. The classes were outstanding. as  I left, I couldn't believe I had spent so much time chasing after the small percentage of wholesale  properties out there when I could have spent time being able to deal with any kind of property a person could possibly want to sell. I could have dealt with pretty properties. 800,000.00 properties, mansions. The marketing would take just as much work as wholesaling, but this time when I answer the phone the person on the other end will be more likely to trust me. What was I thinking taking so long to get the license? 

Has anyone else felt this way? 

Post: Ideas on Gettting More Money for Marketing

Kay H.Posted
  • chicago , IL
  • Posts 61
  • Votes 3
Originally posted by @Dev Horn:
Yellow letters generate calls, but they are often from UNMOTIVATED sellers. Exactly what you're experiencing, right? So change your marketing strategy rather than throwing MORE $ at the one that is NOT working (you just told us that!).

Look at some of the new postcards offered by a turnkey provider like yellowletters.com. But whether you use letters or PCs, you need to convey the right message to get the right people to call you. It's not "I LOVE your house and want to $BUY$ it!" (which screams "I will pay full retail price!"). The MOTIVATED SELLER message is:

1) Get CASH
2) FAST
3) Without making any REPAIRS
4) + no need to pay off liens, closing costs, etc.

And only go after people with 40% or more equity with that MOTIVATED SELLER message.

And to your original question, we see that people that don't have a marketing budget of at LEAST $500 per month are going to STRUGGLE in this business and likely fail. It is a MARKETING CHALLENGE to find these deals we're all looking for. Set aside a portion of your tax return to invest in your BUSINESS, in your MARKETING, and you should do well IF you stick to a SOLID STRATEGY for at LEAST 6 months.

“The greater the effort, the greater the glory.” ~ Pierre Corneille

Dev,

is there such a thing as a more targeted motivated seller yellow letter that would work?

Post: How can I access Philadelphia Court Records

Kay H.Posted
  • chicago , IL
  • Posts 61
  • Votes 3

Hi,

does anyone know how I can access these? I want to look for landlord info. I went on the website and it seemed you needed to know docket number first. Am I missing something?