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All Forum Posts by: Jered Sturm

Jered Sturm has started 47 posts and replied 452 times.

Post: New Kid on the Block

Jered SturmPosted
  • Investor/Syndicator
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 470
  • Votes 599

Welcome to the Site @Steven Singleton . I'm curious why Raleigh opposed to Atl ?

Post: Are you an experienced investor in Cobb County Georgia?

Jered SturmPosted
  • Investor/Syndicator
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 470
  • Votes 599

@Terry Burger, This sounds great! Count me in. Thanks for setting it up. 

Post: Multi-family properties location in the Metro Atlanta

Jered SturmPosted
  • Investor/Syndicator
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 470
  • Votes 599

@Germain Mopa Terry made some great suggestions. I am similar to you I recently moved to Kennesaw Ga. I did so to expand our multifamily investment company down from Ohio. We focus on 60+ unit buildings but the concepts are the same for 10 or 100 unit buildings. 

My partner is licensed in Georgia and Ohio and has a degree in real estate economics so he handles all market analysis but I'd love to meet up in person with you myself and swap stories, goals and meet someone with similar goals. 

Feel free to reach out to me on here or my email below and we can grab a drink or lunch. 

Talk soon! 

Post: BRRRR ("fix and rent") in Cincinnati area

Jered SturmPosted
  • Investor/Syndicator
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 470
  • Votes 599

@Eric P. Yes It can be done. Our company did just that in the Cincinnati market. However doing it from out of state may be difficult. How do you plan to manage the rehab process from out of state? 

Another thing to consider is about 95% of lenders will require a seasoning period. some 6 months some 12 months. This will require you to own the property for 6-12 months before doing the refinance at appraised value. 

But to answer your questions is absolutely can be done. You challenge will be rehab from a far and then management of the rental from a far.

Post: Ohio Taxes && Cleveland v Cinci v Columbus

Jered SturmPosted
  • Investor/Syndicator
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 470
  • Votes 599

Thanks @DL Martin . I know I have been trying to make it up at a date that lines up to the Meet up! 

Thanks for the article I hope your property is going well. We will have to catch up soon. 

Post: Ohio Taxes && Cleveland v Cinci v Columbus

Jered SturmPosted
  • Investor/Syndicator
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 470
  • Votes 599

@William F.

Answering your questions:

1) I personally don't think it can be done well. We built our company in Cincinnati while we lived there. One of our partners still lives there. To make the jump and expand into ATL markets I packed up and made the move so I could be here in person. In my opinion, managing remotely won't work unless you build the team and systems and then manage remotely. 

2) I think you may have to dig deeper on this one for a better understanding. Yes, property tax insurance is considered "must pay bills" just like maintenance and many other expenses these are labeled operating expenses. Think of operating expenses as an expense that would be a cost for anyone who owns the asset. If I own it, you own it, or warren buffet owns it we all operating expenses.  P&I is not an operating expense because it depends on who owns it. you may get a 6% 15-year loan, I get a 3% 30-year loan and Mr. Buffet may pay cash. Becuase of this P&I is not a "must pay" and is not an operating expense. 

Knowing these metrics is how the value of the property is calculated. To find the value you take gross income - operating expense = NOI. Divide NOI by the market's cap rate and you have the property value.

So on a very basic example if your properties gross income is $100,000 and operating expense is $60,000 your NOI is $40,000 and the cap rate is 10% that means the property is worth $400,000. Now if that same property had higher property taxes when you bought it the example may look like this: gross income is $100,000 and operating expense is $65,000 ( all $5,000 increase comes from property tax being higher). your NOI is then $35,000 and the cap rate is 10% that means the property is worth $350,000. So yes you are paying more in taxes but paying less in purchase price to account for the cost of taxes you will incur in the future.

So my point from my last post was if you are in one of the higher property tax % Areas the probability that you will lose value on your property due to a property tax increase is less likely than if you buy in the low tax area where the government can raise property tax easier without out pricing the going tax rate of the market and killing demand for 1-4 unit buyers. I am not saying you should go out and target high property tax areas. I am just saying there is not need to fear them as long as you account for the cost of those taxes on the purchase. 

2+) Talk to your CPA on this. I would never hold investment property in a C or S corp. I always hold in an LLC taxed as a partnership. When done correctly you should have very little taxable income being generated from buy and hold property. You may make substantial actual cash flow but after depreciation and all the other tax benefits income tax should be very low or you should have a paper loss.

I wrote some in-depth articles on this for BP on this stuff. Here is a link to one. You can search my name I write an article every two weeks that has this kind of info in it. 

https://www.biggerpockethttps://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/how-the-wealthy-invest/s.com/renewsblog/how-the-wealthy-invest/

Post: Newbie, but not totally

Jered SturmPosted
  • Investor/Syndicator
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 470
  • Votes 599

@Jeffrey Miller Great first post and great goals! Congrats on your success thus far. I am new the area, recently moved to Ga from Ohio to expand our company. Becuase of this I am still learning the area and building connections as well. I am still learning this market, but know RE in general very well. If I can ever be of help let me know. 

See you around!

Post: Ohio Taxes && Cleveland v Cinci v Columbus

Jered SturmPosted
  • Investor/Syndicator
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 470
  • Votes 599

Our company focuses on Atlanta and Cincinnati.  Below are some basic focusing points on those markets. I thought you may find it helpful when considering Cincinnati.

  • Jobs / corporate infrastructure-We choose tier one markets. These are cities that have a developed, established real estate markets. These cities tend to be highly developed, with desirable schools, facilities, and diversified industry in several large corporations.
    • Cincinnati
      • Procter and gamble
      • Kroger
      • 5/3rd bank
      • General Electric
    • Atlanta
      • Home Depot
      • UPS
      • Coca-Cola
      • Delta
  • Supply and Demand- Watching how much inventory, and how many renters is key to making sure you will have enough renters or buyers to keep vacancy rates down.
    • Cincinnati vacancy rate
      • 3.7%
    • Atlanta vacancy rate
      • 4.6%
  • Rental Rate Trends-This has a lot to do with if the markets economy is growing, stabilized, or declining.
    • Cincinnati Annual Rent Growth.
      • 3.4%
    • Atlanta Annual Rental Rate Growth
      • 6%
THOSE POINTS ABOVE ARE ALL IMPORTANT BUT MEAN NOTHING WITHOUT THE FOLLOWING:
  • Does The market fit the investment goals?
    • Everyone has different goals some investors invest in real estate to preserve wealth, some to lessen their tax burden, and some to make cash flow. Picking a market that gives you the best chance at your goal is vital.
  • Do you know the market really really well?
    • If you can't drive around a city you're considering investing in without a GPS then you don't know it well enough. You have to know schools, streets, and neighborhoods. Of the three partners of SNS we live in both Atlanta and Cincinnati.
  • Do you have Relationships in the market?
    • If you buy something out of the market you live in but don't have quality relationships with team members to help, the investment is likely to crash and burn. Having long-lasting trusting relationships is key to quality teams and ultimately investment success.

Post: Ohio Taxes && Cleveland v Cinci v Columbus

Jered SturmPosted
  • Investor/Syndicator
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 470
  • Votes 599

@William F. I am born and raised in Cincinnati. Our company was formed there and we currently hold and continue to buy there. 

You mentioned buying multifamily, I assume you mean 5 or more unit buildings. 

I always find it interesting the concern on property taxes. I understand wanting low property taxes if you are buying 1-4 unit buildings. However, in the 5+ unit buildings, I don't really worry if they are high or low. I simply account for the taxes when calculating the value and make my offer accordingly. If anything I prefer the higher tax rate areas. If I am buying apartments in an area that is one the highest tax rates I can say with more confidence it is not likely to go up. Think about it, if tax rates range from 1-3% for the whole city and you buy a property that is 3% are they likely to take that area to 5%? Not likely or no one would buy there. However, the area with 1% rates will be able to squeeze their rates up and people wont fuss nearly as much. If you buy at a 3% tax rate and sell at a 3% rate to value lost during your hold. If you buy at a 1% tax rate and sell at a 3% you just lost a bunch of value in your property because NOI took a big hit from the tax man.

Post: New Member From Georgia

Jered SturmPosted
  • Investor/Syndicator
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 470
  • Votes 599

@Rc Morris Welcome! You were able to get the ball rolling and that's more than many can say!  I am up in NW Georgia (Kennesaw), so not too far from you. 

What are you doing for your full time job? were you able to use that skill set to help start in real estate?