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Join our next Southern Utah Real Estate Investor Association (SUREIA) meet up! 

Thursday December 11, 2014

Have/wants are to be submitted 24 hours prior to the meeting for approval. 

Special Guess:  We will be having a conference call with @Andy M. a VERY experienced Wholesaler from Salt Lake City.  Andy will be talking about his business and how his team wholesales property locally and virtually.   Andy makes tons of money and has tons of fun.

Check out his blog at www.iloverealestatestories.com

Andy is kind enough to share his time with us... come learn from the most experienced Wholesaler in Utah! 

We meet monthly on the second Thursday of EVERY month.

Address: Hampton Inn 53 North River Road St. George, Ut 84790

Networking is from 6:30 pm – 7 pm Meeting is from 7 pm-8:30 pm

No charge for the event. 

I use www.oDesk.com

I have been very pleased with the platform and the system.  Sure I pay a few bucks more then the "other sites"... but the systems is worth it!  Seriously can I complain about $5 bucks an hours. 

The Podcast are worth EVERY penny... My $300 is small potatoes to support all that the BP teams does.   

I get 4 podcast a month for $25... that's a deal. 

My local paper wants $20 a month to share depressing, sad stories with me... yuk!

BP helps grow my business and helps me grow personally.

If you spend anytime listening to the Guru's they want $300 for 1 hr of 
"their precious time". 

I pay to support BP, I hope it grows, I hope more resources come as a result of the growing Pro Membership.

Hope that helps! 

Southern Utah Real Estate Investors Association (SUREIA) supports real estate investors of all levels in Southern Utah. Investing is a team sport and we are here to help you train to become a pro! Come and experience our real estate investor group meetings and training events. You will learn how to go from being a rookie player to a seasoned investing All-Star! For some, that even includes investing outside of Utah. We’ll show you how to get started or how to advance your real estate business even further.

At our monthly Southern Utah REIA meetings and real estate investing training events you'll learn a variety of topics:

 Southern Utah Real Estate Investors Association (SUREIA) welcomes members from all over the state.

Southern Utah REIA is held at the St. George Hampton Inn 53 North River Road the 2nd Thursday of EVERY month 6:30-8:30.

NEW TIME..... NEW NAME.... BIGGER GROUP.... SAME OPPORTUNITY....

WWW.SUREIA.COM

Southern Utah Real Estate Investors Association (SUREIA) supports real estate investors of all levels in Southern Utah. Investing is a team sport and we are here to help you train to become a pro! Come and experience our real estate investor group meetings and training events. You will learn how to go from being a rookie player to a seasoned investing All-Star! For some, that even includes investing outside of Utah. We’ll show you how to get started or how to advance your real estate business even further.

At our monthly Southern Utah REIA meetings and real estate investing training events you'll learn a variety of topics:

 Southern Utah Real Estate Investors Association (SUREIA) welcomes members from all over the state. Check out Southern Utah REIA at the St. George Hampton Inn 53 North River Road the 2nd Thursday of EVERY month 6:30-8:30 and be part of the fast-growing real estate investing community here in Southern Utah.

Hey @Craig Coulson,

I'm here locally, happy to help where I can.

You can join us monthly at Southern Utah Real Estate Investors Association (www.SUTREIA.com).

I have 1-2 good deals a month on rentals that I pass along to other investors.  Private Message me and I will add you to my VIP buyers. 

@Greg F. 

Thanks for the opinion on the other side of the coin.

That is why we post and interact on BP is to find better/new ways of doing things!

What absolutely pisses me off is: YES I asked questions to Peter but Peter wanted to do the talking.  When he told me it was $15k upfront and asked me "do you see yourself participating in this"... I said no... and he very quickly said, "sounds like it is not for you" and he hung up.  I never had the chance to ask any other questions, to ask "how we might be able to work together".  That is why I took the time to follow up with Joe and talk with him.  But after that conversation it confirmed my feelings that I am NOT interested in the Joe and Peter program!

You asked how much I would pay Jerry... Well...  I would have to sent more than 150,000 pieces of mail to pay Jerry $15k (less than 10cents a piece).  

That is 4 letters to every person in my town 1 time a month for 4 months.  Biased on those numbers, I don't know but I could close .5% of that (very easy).  The would mean Jerry helped me reach 40,000 people 4 times, my closing ratio would have to SUCK with a .5% closing rate but I would still buy 18 houses in 4 months with every $15k paid to Jerry. 

That is the problem with Guru's... how much marketing do you think you can do for $15k?  My point with Jerry is the VALUE EXCHANGE is very fair and he is in my corner to help me send out more mail... assuming I want to send 150,000 pieces of mail in 4 months. 

Question:  @Greg F.  1.  How much mail do these guys send out for your $1000 month?

                                   2.  The website you have on your profile is around $29 month.  Do these guys provide another website for Lead Generation with your $1000 month? 

Don't get me wrong I have spend BIG $$$ with the Guru's and everyone starts someplace.  I just hope we can help some people spend more wisely... like ON marketing!  

Like @Michael G. said lets see what the results show 60 days from now when you have spent $17k-$18k with these guys?   PLEASE post any results! 

$17k with Jerry... I would have bought 15-20 houses paying him!!! 

SUTREIA Invites You!

We have a very exciting Southern Utah's Real Estate Investors Association (SUTREIA) meet up this month... TONIGHT!!! We will be visiting two rehabs that were purchased in October, and we will be evaluating the deal, the rehab, and the backend profits.

COME JOIN US...FREE!

We even have a drawing for 2 gift cards for the best guess on the rehab costs! 

Date: October 15th, 2014
Time: 6:00PM - 7:30PM
Location: Southern Utah Real Estate Investors Association
321 N. Mall Drive Blvd R, St George, UT 84790

AGENDA

Thanks @Jared Knudson for letting other know and being on the ball. 

I was slow on getting the email out this month.

We have a VERY exciting REIA tonight as we have two properties in progress. You will have the chance to see things in action and ask questions!

I'm getting a lot of requests about this post so here is the follow-up after my conversation with Joe McCall. 

Disclosure: this is my opinion and nothing more!

"If you listen to Brandon and Josh and any of the experienced investors on BP... SAVE YOUR MONEY and NEVER give it to a Guru"... These guys are wanna-bee guru's but the same applies.  

If that statement is not enough for you here are my further thoughts and opinion... Joe and Peter are "still trying to figure out what they are selling you".  

Joe was VERY nice on the phone (after many rounds of phone tag as he travels the states in semi retirement).  Peter was simply a jerk.

So ask yourself:  Do you want to give $1000 month and $15k to... a jerk and a guy who is in Semi retirement.  Again "save your money", they still have not figured out what they are selling and will use your money to either 1. figure it out or 2. spend it on travel etc. 

What Joe and Peter are selling sounds good from stage (or a podcast) but it is simply a way for you as a new or newer investor to part with you hard earned money.  It has almost ZERO practical application and it is terrible difficult for them or you to track... that is why they need your $15k upfront as an "are you serious fee".  There is nothing on the backend and nothing to motivate them to stay with you as your "partner".

They make their money when they get your $15k.

Solution:  After much research and many recommendations I "partnered up" with Jerry Pucket (search his name on BP) and paid him to help me get more mail in the mail.  The phone wont stop ringing.  

Jerry makes his money helping me get mailings done and a better system and he is DANG GOOD AT IT.  He does NOT charge upfront fees...  He charges a few cents on each pieces of mail and makes his "millions" that way... j/k.  

Jerry is the type of "partner" you want.  He is successful when you are successful and you send more mail.  Thus doing more deals. 

Peter Vekselman and Joe McCall are guys trying to live the Guru dream selling you a dream... but the backend support.  You will not see it. 

Practical application will come much better from a "partner" like Jerry Pucket.

Best,