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All Forum Posts by: Justin Morgan

Justin Morgan has started 57 posts and replied 204 times.

Post: Looking to connect with Southern Utah WHOLESALES

Justin MorganPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • St. George, UT
  • Posts 212
  • Votes 113

@Sofia Sharkey hope to connect with you and the gang!

Maybe even Brian Head?

Post: STRs in Southwest Utah

Justin MorganPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • St. George, UT
  • Posts 212
  • Votes 113

My team and I talk with 1-2 people a month that want to sell their STR in the pocket communities in and around St. George. They are not making the ROI or even breaking even from what the "model home" salesman told them. This is largely due to being overbuilt all over the place. Huge supply for the demand we have... and supply is still growing.

In Hurricane it is a little different because, outside of the PUD communities, they only have 48 permits. Simple supply and demand. And some cool houses have the permits.

The rentals in Hurricane that do well can sleep A LOT of people and they offer something unique, something different. (sport court, lake, indoor golf and some amazing pools). I have seen a few smaller "pool houses" hit the market and sell at a huge premium (20%) because they have the permit and good set up. Not sure how these STR numbers pan out, but the opportunity is limited and they sell in hours.

Keep in mind this has been a "sexy" asset class and most people don't understand or even look at the numbers.  Some have even told us, "it's ok the values are going up"... can you say speculation.  πŸ™ƒ

Yes... St. George has a HUGE saturation issue with STR. I own ZERO in St. George.

I have 4 properties in Brian Head. My two large cabins that sit side by side do very well and this numbers keep going up. Sadly I am selling them to float a commercial project that we lost a gym tenant with Covid (it's a sad mess).

The cabins do very well as we are the only side by side option (unique selling proposition) for large luxury accommodations and we book 95% family reunions all summer at a premium. It makes renting to large groups awesome.  We did 28 days in July even with Covid.  

I have condos in BH that I am also selling... too much supply and hard to be different then the condo next door. The numbers are not great and I own them free and clear, I need the cash.

We got hit in March and April with Covid and lost $50k in bookings... but within 6 weeks we started booking at a premium as people want to be in the mountains and away from the city.  So we had "covid shock", but we are very solid with mountain recreation.  Brian Head is the new Utah Park City. Lots of Vegas and Cali money that come to the mountain.

If we want to talk Zion or Springdale... we are all simply late to the party, it is CRAZY regulated (understandably so) and if you got in early you hit the lottery.  I don't see anything selling on the open market. 

Hope that helps! πŸ‘

Post: STRs in Southwest Utah

Justin MorganPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • St. George, UT
  • Posts 212
  • Votes 113

@Sofia Sharkey

I think we just connected on FB, maybe. 😁

I have STR in Brian Head. It works well enough there... but I guess it depends on your goals?

The numbers in St George are terrible. Including Hurricane, Ivins and neighboring cities. If you have read the codes you can see why.

Post: STR near Zion National park

Justin MorganPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • St. George, UT
  • Posts 212
  • Votes 113

@Ryan Moyer I 100% echo your words... spot on, well said.

I have yet to see anything that pencils any cash flow at today prices (or the last 3-4 years prices).

Post: B&B in St George, Utah

Justin MorganPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • St. George, UT
  • Posts 212
  • Votes 113

@Sofia Sharkey

St George is a small place, but rather big when your looking at BnB. Do you want to be in town or more remote towards Zion, snow Canyon, or the other national parks or recreation area.

People make a living towards Bryce Canyon, up in Duck Creek, or there is Brian Head resort.

I think determining area more closing might help your search.

As one comment mentioned, the Latter Day Saint temple is here. But that is 50 minutes from Zion NP and a whole different world then Bryce Canyon or Cedar Mountain.

Post: Texas to Salt Lake City, UT

Justin MorganPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • St. George, UT
  • Posts 212
  • Votes 113

@Michael Cox

What kind of properties are you finding and buying for St George investments?

Post: Vacation rental in So. Utah or long-term rental on Wasatch Front?

Justin MorganPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • St. George, UT
  • Posts 212
  • Votes 113

@Melanie Schmidt. glad that I could help, maybe a little.

We lifestyle the heck out of Brian Head and it they do well.

If your interested in Kanab I have a turn key ready rental... 2 houses on 1 acre. Interested? $370k

I don’t visit Kanab and I need the equity out.

Post: Wholesale Meetup! Best 2 hours of your life!

Justin MorganPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • St. George, UT
  • Posts 212
  • Votes 113

@Jeff Rappaport

I hear good things are happening πŸ’ͺ🏻... keep it up!

Post: New BP from St George, UT

Justin MorganPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • St. George, UT
  • Posts 212
  • Votes 113

@Michael Cox

Howdy from St George!

Glad to see another Southern Utah Investor on BP πŸ’ͺ🏻

Post: Vacation rental in So. Utah or long-term rental on Wasatch Front?

Justin MorganPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • St. George, UT
  • Posts 212
  • Votes 113

@Melanie Schmidt

St George only allows STR in certain communities that meet Nightly rental zoning and other rules. These rentals are getting saturated big time and owners are not even braking even at this point. It's a lifestyle play, NOT an investment... PERIOD!

Santa Clara and Ivins are about the same as St George with regs.

Hurricane also has communities that allow STR and other then that they issued 48 permits YEARS ago and you can't add any new rentals, plus the waiting list is twice that long.

If you get outside the cities and into the county the regs are much more loose and you will find some good options.

I rent STR in Kanab and Brian Head town resort. Fully licensed and we do good. The management is much more, (we self manage), but we also play the lifestyle card with STR.