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All Forum Posts by: Sean McKee

Sean McKee has started 27 posts and replied 204 times.

Post: Berwyn: Potential 2 Flat Purchase

Sean McKeePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 204
  • Votes 148
Quote from @Paul De Luca:

@Sean McKee

That's a good price on a 2-flat for Berwyn and I'm guessing the property needs some work.

Typical Berwyn rents for the units you have described (at market levels) usually range from $1200-$1400. If the units are more updated rents of $1400-$1600+ are very obtainable.

Here's the breakdown of the rents I have at my two duplexes in NW Berwyn:

Property #1 - 2 bed/1 bath unit rented for $1415 ($100/mo for two garage parking spaces included plus a monthly pet fee); 3 bed/1 bath unit for $1530 (bedrooms all on the smaller side). This property was rehabbed in 2018/2019 with renter grade finishes (laminate counters, new flooring, etc)

Property #2 - 1 bed/1 bath garden unit rented for $990; 3 bed/1 bath unit rented for $1515 (about 1100 sf). We gave our previous tenant who lived in the garden unit first dibs on this unit and we gave them a deal on the rent since we had a ton of interest and likely could have gotten $1600+.

Our rents may be a bit below market at this point given we haven't really raised rents in years. We're considering raising them a bit upon next renewals.

If you need some rental comps, let me know.

Paul thanks for this very helpful. Yes this one needs some work. The idea would be to try and get between 1500 and 1600. I’d love to see whatever rental comps you have.

thanks again 

Post: Berwyn: Potential 2 Flat Purchase

Sean McKeePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 204
  • Votes 148

Hello BP,

I have a potential 2 Flat in Berwyn that I have a "verbal agreement" to purchase for 205k. It's definitely not a final deal yet, but I wanted to see if anyone has general gauge of the rents in the area. Both of the units are 2 bed/1 bath. The first-floor unit is ~800SQFT and duplexed down to a finished storage area. The upstairs unit is approx. ~800 SQFT. 

Both units have access to laundry, a 2-car garage, and a parking pad. No Central AC. Currently they have average finishings for the area.

I have an idea on the rents but would like to hear what other people are currently renting their units for. Do you know what the max potential rent is?

Thanks for any advice!

Post: Police Called and Nuisance Landlord Hearing

Sean McKeePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 204
  • Votes 148

Hello BP!

I'm hoping someone might have some guidance on a recent event that happened at my property in Cicero. Long story short is that my tenant apparently had some friends that stole from a local corner store and were hiding out in my building. Police came and it was evidently a scene. However, the store owner did not press charges. My other tenant on site told me what happened and gave the responding officer my contact information. He told me there was a loud party the weekend prior but did not tell me.  The police never reached out to me.

Fast forward 10 days later and I'm getting a notice that I have to appear for an administrative hearing because I was "allowing" gang activity to occur and jeopardizing the safety of the community. Below is the ordinance they said I violated:

Commit any offense that is a nuisance according to the laws of the state."

These tenants were properly screened, passed background, credit checks, employment, etc. I never had issues with them until this incident. I do quarterly inspections of the units and other inspections of the property. I even renewed their lease. I never caught anything out of the ordinary. Had I suspected they were materially violating anything in the lease, I would have evicted them.  I'm not saying they are innocent, but I was not made aware of any issues by anyone until this incident. So, I'm not exactly sure how I'm in violation of anything?

I have already contacted my lawyer. I'm handling the tenants separately and they have been cooperating. I submitted FOIA request to the police department. However, I wanted to know if anyone has experienced this? Is there a way to make them drop this without appearing for this administrative hearing? I'm not concerned about being held liable (at least I don't think I should be), but this is a huge inconvenience. I'm not sure why I am expected to be responsible for grown adults.

Thanks for any advice or thoughts!


Post: What’s your average turn cost for your Class C rentals?

Sean McKeePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 204
  • Votes 148
Quote from @Nathan Gesner:
Quote from @Carlos M.:

@Nathan Gesner

That’s fantastic! How do you keep your cost so low ?


Strong policies and procedures. 

If you screen well, you'll get higher-quality renters that perform better. It also helps to have a strong lease that is easily understandable, and be quick to enforce violations. Communication is also important.

Our tenants see us performing professionally, so they are less likely to screw around. If they see you don't really know what you're doing, they are more likely to test the boundaries.


 Yes that’s really good. I’m usually averaging around 300 to 500 if they are there around a year. 

Is there anything you do to tenant proof better?

Post: What’s your average turn cost for your Class C rentals?

Sean McKeePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 204
  • Votes 148

Hello BiggerPockets!

I am curious to know what everyone is spending on turn cost for their  Class C rentals on average?  

This tenant base overall can be fairly rough. I’ve gone way better at tenant proofing stuff to reduce my overall cost.

I got a pretty rough tenant that was only there for a year. I didn’t renew the lease. 

  We luckily had a security deposit . I consider myself fairly lucky.  Our out-of-pocket cost was around $1600 to fix all of the “normal wear and tear” items. This was only a 1 bedroom apartment.

Let me know what the norm is for you!

Post: What tactics should I use to increase the rent without loosing the tenant.

Sean McKeePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 204
  • Votes 148
Quote from @Amer Swid:

So, I found a multiunit house and a single-family house both attached to each other, both owned by a church that put them up for sale. all units are already rented but lower than the market value. The single family house is rented for 1100 but supposed to be at 1300/month (my realtor told me so), and the other tenants in the multiunit property each pays 850 which supposed to be at 900/month. Another thing is that the least that they signed says that landlord will be responsible for trash, swere "basic fee" (not sure what that means) and lawn mowing. I really feels I need to increase the rent but the tenants are nice and clean and not sure how should I approach this. Their lease will be ending in 8 month from now.

I’m not sure how many units there are total. The multi-family units that are $50 dollars off market are the easiest. Just raise them $25 each for a couple years. Those aren’t that far off.

The single family home is harder. Run the comps to double check that you stand a reasonable chance of getting $200 more a month. That one is starting to get far off from market rents, so it might be best to bite the bullet and just increase the rent. There’s a chance they will leave, but you’ll loose a lot by keeping them at that rate. You could try and do $75 increases every year. That might be low enough for them not to immediately leave.

Post: East Humboldt Park Rental Flop?

Sean McKeePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 204
  • Votes 148

Thanks everyone for the tips. We ended up reducing rent to 1395 and rented it. I will definitely bring it back closer to market in 2025.

Post: Tips for adding authorized occupant

Sean McKeePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 204
  • Votes 148
Quote from @Linda M.:

Hello everyone - Brand new to landlording, so apologies in advance for the basic questions. I recently secured a tenant for my condo apt. The lease specifies that tenant must notify management and owner of any additional occupantsand that they're subject to board review. Management was really wishy-washy about what that means and basically told me "do whatever you want, the board doesn't really care".

Tenant lease started a few days ago and she has indicated that her boyfriend will be living in the apt effective immediatelly and she'd like an extra set of keys.  My questions are:

1. What paperwork should he complete as an authorized occupant? Management did a background check, and I was going to have him sign the condo house rules. Should he also fill out an application... Or no since he's not a tenant? 


2. Should I make the tenant sign an additional document that spells out she is responsible for her occupant, that they are required to follow all rules otherwise she may be subject to fines, etc?

3. I believe I'm required to give tenant copies of the keys upon request, correct? If they are for the authorized occupant who is responsible for returning them, just the tenant?

3. Is there any reason/benefit to make him a tenant over an authorized occupant?  The latter sounds not only easier but also more straightforward if any issues btwn the two ever arose in the future.

Thanks in advance for any guidance y'all can provide!!

If he’s moving in and will be living there. Process him like any other applicant. As long as he checks out you can proceed with letting him on the tenancy. I would absolutely make him sign the lease. That way he’s also fully accountable. I personally don’t think the authorized occupant helps you out. They are still on your property regardless of how they turn out.

i have this happen quite a bit. A significant other moves on. They sign the lease. They break up and someone moves off. They are still both responsible and I tell them that. So far it’s worked out.

Post: East Humboldt Park Rental Flop?

Sean McKeePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 204
  • Votes 148
Quote from @John Warren:

@Sean McKee we do a lot of leasing, and I have leased in both markets. Cicero is really easy to fill units in as long as you have one beds or affordable two beds. We leased up over 50 units there in the past year, so I would know. 

Humboldt Park will probably be a lot more seasonal. We leased a good deal in Chicago this year, and the leasing market was red, red hot during May, June and July. I could feel it slowing down as we filled our last unit at the end of the summer. 

At this point, I would do a price drop to get the right number of showings. You need 7-10 showings normally to get the right applicant in my experience. Try to have your lease bump out a few months so you end on March 31 or April 30. Then the next cycle you will be in more in the groove for pushing rents. 


 I agree. We have cut the price to adjust for the winter slow down. Fingers crossed.

Post: East Humboldt Park Rental Flop?

Sean McKeePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 204
  • Votes 148
Quote from @Jonathan Klemm:

@Sean McKee - What cross streets are you at?  I think I am near by but the nomenclator east humboldt park can be misleading depending on whether you are talking about the actual park or neighborhood.

I am at Armitage & Western and have a similar 2/1, I actually pivoted to airbnb during covid because I had to drop the rent so low ($1450) that I refused to do a LTR at that rent.  I think you are probably priced right if it were summer, but may need to drop another $100 given the Chicago winter.

Most important if you are confident in your price it is often just a timing thing...the right tenant will come, but I know it's tough when you only have a couple of doors...that lost rent hurts.

I’m located at Campbell and Division essentially. We are probably a minute walk to the park .So I’m not 100% sure about my pricing. It’s crazy that it slows this much down. I haven’t experienced that with any of my rentals in Cicero or little village.  But those are two different markets.

How did the airbnb work? We had thought about that, but we weren’t sure if location would work. Ultimately I want to pivot to short term rental.