@Mark P. it is very hard to start a VR in Big Bear. And some people don't realize that. I have been lucky enough to help out some of this forum and now manage for them, while others have (from this forum) taken complete advantage of me by telling me they were hiring me to manage and then for months, as they were in the process of buying, pumped me for info, had me come up and help find them a place, have me recommend decorating ideas and then once the place was closed, cut me off so they didn't have to pay me because they suddenly decided how easy it was. (good luck to them) It's not easy- it's a lot of work, always being on call 24/7, dealing with horrible renters sometimes who will lie to try to get money back or who will steal things and destroy homes. It's rewarding and it's money coming in, but it's a hell of a lot of work and coordinating cleaners, spa, check ins, answering calls at 5am, setting special loud alarms on your phone to wake you up at 3am to approve a new booking...etc