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All Forum Posts by: Jay Hurst

Jay Hurst has started 7 posts and replied 1428 times.

Post: PMI cancelation question

Jay Hurst
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Quote from @Brian Scott:

Hello everyone,

My wife and I own a mutli-family home and purchased it in February 2022 for 495,000. We put 5% down using an FHA loan and currently have an outstanding balance of 450,063.

We have a PMI payment of about 300.00 per month.

We have put a considerable amount of money into the home to include a completely renovated 2nd floor 2 bedroom unit. Updated bathrooms on the first and second floor. A new kitchen on the first floor. New roof. New paver patio. New Driveway. New Garage door on detached 2 car garage.

My mortgage company is Citizens Bank and from looking at their rules for PMI cancelation(per google AI) they are:

"Citizens Bank will automatically cancel private mortgage insurance (PMI) when your loan-to-value (LTV) ratio reaches 78%. This means that the principal balance of your loan is 78% of the original value of your home. You must be current on your mortgage payments to receive this automatic cancellation. You can also request to have PMI canceled earlier if you meet certain requirements:

  • You reach 80% LTV in your home
  • You have 20% equity in your home
  • You have a good payment history
  • You have no other liens on the home

You can request a PMI cancellation in writing to your lender or servicer. You may need to get a home appraisal, and you'll be responsible for the cost"

My question is : Should I have my own appraisal done by a reputable company that would be accepted by banks for appraisal estimates and then request Citizens to do their own appraisal for a request of PMI cancelation. This way when they try to low ball me I have my own appraisal ready to go.

Or - should I just request a PMI cancelation from Citizens bank and wait to see what their appraisal comes back at.

Or - am I going about this all completely wrong?

Please advise - thank you!

@Brian Scott You say in your post that you have a FHA loan taken out in 2022 with 5% down. Unfortunately, you are stuck with the monthly mortgage insurance. FHA loans taken out after 2013 with only 5% down cannot drop MIP for the life of the loan. The chart you are referencing above is for a conventional loan, not FHA.

Your only option would be to refi into a conventional loan to not have MIP on the new loan. Hindsight is 20/20 of course but this is advise borrowers to go the conventional route (assuming they can qualify of course) because it is a cheaper loan then FHA with the MIP for life.

https://www.bankrate.com/mortgages/remove-fha-mortgage-insur...

Post: Floor Leveling and Lifting for BRRRR

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Quote from @Nam Pham:

Hi Everyone,

Currently working through a BRRRR and wanted to get your thoughts on whether I should invest in floor leveling and lifting? My GC is recommending it to be thorough but it is costly. Would love to know your experiences and thoughts.

Thank you!

 @Nam Pham  Assume likely an older property on a pier and beam foundation, as compared to a slab foundation?

Post: Can I refinance my personal conventional mortgage into a DSCR owned by my LLC?

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Quote from @Michell Chase:

I am currently working on building my RE portfolio. As a beginner, before learning about all different types of lenders, I purchased my first investment property under a conventional investment mortgage in my own name. Since then I have opened my LLC and am beginning to buy other investment properties under that LLC. As I am not a spring chicken with my age..there are always concerns about "What happens if I die?"...therefore the underlying base of my question. Would it make sense to refinance my conventional into a DSCR with my LLC that way I can create a plan for my single member LLC upon my death so that my RE assets are also passed along...

Thanks


Could you? Sure. But I cannot imagine why you would want to. and if moving over to a LLC is very important for you, assuming you financed after June 1, 2016, you would be able to move over your conventional loan to an LLC. See this link: https://servicing-guide.fanniemae.com/svc/d1-4.1-02/allowabl...

Post: How to bypass the 6 months wait to refinance

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Quote from @Moshe Cohen:

Hi everyone!

I have an option to buy a house for 290k with an ARV of 350-360.

I have the funds in cash but was told I need to wait 6 months before I can refinance for the ARV and not for the purchase price I paid for it.

Any suggestions on how to buy it with the option to refinace it right after??

Thanks in advance...

 @Moshe Cohen   The easy answer is called "delayed financing" assuming you are buying/bought the property with cash.  You can use the stepped value on delayed financing, but you are limited to what you paid for the property cash in hand plus closing costs. So, you cannot borrow more then 290k plus closing costs in this case. HOWEVER, for most investment property cash out programs you will be capped at 75% loan to value (the delayed financing piece does  not effect this loan to value max). So, in your case if we assume a 360k market value the most you can borrow would be 270k anyway. So, the fact that you are capped to the purchase price plus closing costs does not come into play here.  

Post: First time homebuyer starting RE investing journey (House hacking multifamily)

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Quote from @Tanner King:

I am a first time homebuyer looking to purchase a multifamily unit (duplex/3plex/4plex) in the San Antonio/ Boerne area. Ive been in contact with a real estate investor friendly realtor I was matched up with through the bigger pockets website. Next step is getting a pre approval letter. I have a list of lenders I have compiled through BP recommendations and recommendations from my realtor. 

I work a commission based job and am on pace to make just over 6 figures for the first time this year. My concern is my bank account doesn't show that currently (I do have the paystubs to back it up). I don't have the money in my account for a down payment currently but have a plan to within the next few months. I have a 401k and other assets that could equal a down payment just not my checking account. I only have credit card debt with a minimum monthly payment of under $300. 

Im wondering if it would be better for me to wait until I have the money in my bank account for a down payment, or at least another paycheck in the account (paid monthly) before I start shopping around for pre-approval letters. (Plan is an FHA loan)

If anyone can help me out with this it would be greatly appreciated! Also would appreciate any advice in general for someone starting out in real estate investing this way, or an insights on the SA/Boerne market.

Thanks ya'll look forward to hearing from you!


 @Tanner King   I lived in one unit of a duplex and rented the other as my first  property in Dallas 20+ years ago long before it was called house hacking. Best real estate investment of my life for a lot of reasons including just understanding the basics of finance and being a landlord etc. So, great idea.  

As a lender, I would give you a pre-approval letter as long as you had the assets (and meant all other requirements) even if the assets were in a 401k. You might have no intention of actually using those funds as such, but you could. During our conversation I would understand that the plan would be to have enough cash from payroll saved by the time you closed to use for down payment, and that is completely fine. 

But, something to add that you have to understand is that a 3-4 unit has to be meet the FHA self sufficiency test. This requires that 75% of the rent the building brings in covers the entire payment including taxes, insurance and FHA monthly mortgage insurance. With the run up of multi family prices, relatively high rates and the 3.5% low down payment this is virtually impossible (outside of some markets in the upper midwest) to make happen.

Take note that this self sufficiency  test does NOT apply to 2 unit buildings, only 3 or 4 units. AND you can know put as little as 5% down on a conventional loan, which is a better loan anyway if you can manage the extra 1.5% down, does NOT have this test for 2,3 or 4 unit buildings. 

Post: Thoughts About New Western?

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Quote from @Jay Hinrichs:
Quote from @Bruce Lynn:

Run your own comps when buying from any wholesaler and know your rehab costs. Don't depend on others to do it for you. It is pretty typical for many wholesalers to overstate ARV and underestimate rehab costs. Maybe this is intentional and maybe it isn't, maybe what they would do is different than what you would do or envision.

Also be aware that some deals are just recycled off MLS, so potentially you could have bought the same property for less, with less risk off MLS. Don't be fooled by the term "wholesale" deal. Just a marketing term. Some people are repeat buyers, and some would never buy again. You have plenty of options in DFW.


Buyer beware these guys  I would personally never fund a deal that comes from them and for sure buy one.. Hard sell preying on newbie investors.

 100%!  First thing I ask my borrowers that come with a wholesaled property: is this a new western deal? 

Post: Help! My Rentals are keeping me from getting a personal home loan

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Quote from @Jason Smith:

@AJ Exner. Many of the loans I have are DSCR loans. Since my business is structured as an LLC the taxes have them all reported together as LLCs are a pass through tax structure.
So what I am finding is that when lenders see this they lump all the debit and not all the income. It’s crazy!


The fact that the are DSCR or in a LLC does not change how they are calculated via this worksheet other then what John mentioned above. (actually a little bit worse then if not in the LLC) but this worksheet is still used on each property inside the LLC: https://content.enactmi.com/documents/calculators/Form1038.C...

Post: Help! My Rentals are keeping me from getting a personal home loan

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Quote from @Jason Smith:

Hey guys, 

The banks are telling me that they can not loan to me for a personal home because of my Debt to Income is to high for their underwriting. 

I have been working to build my rental portfolio for the last few years and currently I have about 10 properties that cash flow over $7000 per month all together.  I also have earned income as well.  According to multiple banks they can only count 75% of the income of each property which is really jacking up our Debt To Income.  We have about $30k /month in income and about $12k/month expenses leaving a surplus cash of $18k/month.

We were wanting to purchase a new home for ourselves and have the cash flow to make it work. However the banks that are underwriting these deals are killing us (Frost and PenFed).
The home we are wanting to purchase will cost about the same as we are paying now so the Debt to Income should remain the same.  

I know I cannot be the only one that has ever had this issue.  My question is, What are my options? How do I navigate this seemingly ignorant problem?

 @Jason Smith   Bank LO's are often more order taker's then problem solvers. If they are using 75% of the rental income they are not doing it correctly assuming the rentals you mention are on the tax returns.  They way full doc programs work is they use this worksheet: https://content.enactmi.com/documents/calculators/Form1038.C...

This approach will allow you to add back the paper loss of depreciation, and add back mortgage interest, property taxes, insurance and any HOA dues. Using this approach your numbers will look much better. The only time 75% of the lease should be used is IF the property is NOT yet on the tax returns.

You are correct, you are not the first to have this issue, but typically it is more of an issue of LO's not understanding how  it should be looked at. they just do not deal with investors often.

I would also echo Patrick above, moving your current loans into a DSCR loan would not change anything for your issue so please do not spend money doing that.

Post: Can you sell to your LLC

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Quote from @Tara Elliott:

Can you sell your currently live in property to your LLC?


 what would you be trying to accomplish by this? 

Post: Potential 1st house hack duplex

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Quote from @Terrance Jackson:

Newbie here, looking to house hack first duplex. Question is what are the step by steps I need to do for finding out what work will be needed and how much it’s going to cost, etc. if for sure needs work. 

 @Terrance Jackson   Just curious, what market are you looking to buy in?  When it comes to 2-4 units not all markets are created equal. the northeast and midwest tend to have a lot more market for these properties then do newer areas of the south and west.