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All Forum Posts by: Dennis Maynard

Dennis Maynard has started 12 posts and replied 289 times.

Post: A Californian's Out of Area Buying Guide

Dennis MaynardPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 300
  • Votes 146

You left one out...  Professionals in the business are there to help you.

Post: California – need to hang my license with a broker for referrals

Dennis MaynardPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 300
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You can do it, but there will be a split for it.  Obviously it's a case by case basis.  Happy to talk about it.

Post: California Coastal Commission oversight on ADUs

Dennis MaynardPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 300
  • Votes 146

Nope, and I would run away as fast as possible.  Nightmare....

Post: Los Angeles ADU valuations explained

Dennis MaynardPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Los Angeles, CA
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Originally posted by @Eric McGilloway:

@Jonathan Taylor Good info. So I wouldn't be able to sell my house and keep the ADU due to how my property is zoned? This changes a lot of things for me. Like you said, coming up with a semi-accurate value of adding an ADU is tricky due to the lower level of comps. However, two house next to me have ADU's. I can ask them their advice and try and obtain value info. I'll be sure to let you know what they say. I'm in Lake Balboa btw.

Yes you can keep your ADU. You just are not going to sell it as a duplex. It will be a single family with an ADU.

Post: Los Angeles ADU valuations explained

Dennis MaynardPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Los Angeles, CA
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Originally posted by @Eric McGilloway:

@Jonathan Taylor @Dennis Maynard

What if you have a corner lot, and build a $150k 2br, 1.5ba ADU in the backyard, get its own address and parking spot, and it becomes its own property. So now you have two separated properties. You can rent out the "ADU" for $2500-$3000/mo. Would this be a profitable venture? I ran the numbers on the rental calculator. Seems profitable from the numbers.

Lol.  Okay, unless you went through the process of getting a TTM, or did a small lot subdivide, it's technically not two separate properties.  (Semantics I know). Would it be profitable to an owner, potentially yes.  It's subjective to owner returns and what they are looking to accomplish.  Did you include the cost of the land in that equation? Cost of Acquisition?  Can you get those rents in todays market?  

Will you get a loan on the income? No.  Will you get a loan on the improvements? Yes.  Will there be a delta between the two valuations, yes.  

This was about appraisal valuations.  Cash flow, sure.  

Post: Los Angeles ADU valuations explained

Dennis MaynardPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Los Angeles, CA
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Originally posted by @Jonathan Taylor:

@Dennis Maynard I agree with you but also, and we all are local here so we have seen this, some buyers just see the perceived value of an ADU and will over pay for them. This isn't a good strategy and makes us knowledgable folks nodding our heads but is a fact of the open market.

True, but for how much longer. As I have mentioned in some of my other posts, there or over 33,000 listings on apartments.com right now. If an ADU is going to compete with an apartment, it is only a matter of time before rents fall and the values of the ADU's fall as well. Time will tell, the market is the ultimate determinant.

Post: Los Angeles ADU valuations explained

Dennis MaynardPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 300
  • Votes 146
Originally posted by @Jonathan Taylor:

@Dennis Maynard

I see your logic but lenders for full document owner occupied properties in CA use tax returns employment history and Income to qualify the borrower and assess ability to repay. The income of the property can be used following certain criteria and can help offset the DTI. But this is 75% of collected rents and ADU income cannot be used. So the income is included but by no means is the value nor the approval of the loan based upon it.

Right, so without being able to use the income on the loan, you don't get the full bump on loan valuation which allows for a higher loan. This means buyers have to come out of pocket more to purchase the income production, which defeats the purpose because it reduces returns. Therefore, investors will not pay more for a house with an ADU vs an income property if all other things are equal.

Post: Expired Permitted Addition in Long Beach, CA

Dennis MaynardPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 300
  • Votes 146

Bryce, I'm sorry for your loss.  That's tough.  It's really hard to say without seeing it, how much is incomplete, etc.  I would start by making a call to the LB planning department, and see if they can provide a status on the file.  Since there was a permit issued, they may have copies of the plans as well if you can't find any.  Another thing you could check is the permit to see if there is a general contractor listed on there.  If so, contact them and see if they have any knowledge of the project.

Reach out with questions, but that is where I would start, just gather info.

Post: Los Angeles ADU valuations explained

Dennis MaynardPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 300
  • Votes 146
Originally posted by @Dan H.:
Originally posted by @Dennis Maynard:
Originally posted by @Matthew Forrest:

@Dennis Maynard @Jonathan Taylor

To clarify what I meant by "values will be closer to duplexes minus the financing benefits of duplexes counting the rent as income," I think a SFH with an ADU with be the same from an income perspective to an investor with a duplex (two units only) or someone who wants to house hack and be able to afford more house. Put more simply, right now SFH + ADU is valued more closely to a SFH than to a duplex, but I think it'll move towards the duplex valuation.

I'm not there. Agreed on the income, but the long term pricing on all rental property is subject to the strength of the market. So if the rental market is weak like it is right now, then the "added value" of the ADU will stay in question. True duplexes will be based on income value. SFR / ADU will likely stay in SFR with a little bonus income. If a renter is faced with the opportunity for a unit in either (all other things being equal - ceteris peribus), they will likely choose the duplex rather than live in someones garage.

 A duplex, or any less than 5 unit property, is appraised on comps, not income.   The appraisals often include an income approach, but this is informative only and the value is not based on the income. 

Yes I am aware it is based on comps. But you are allowed to include income as part of the financing of the property. So when you have income adjust, values adjust. You cannot do that with SFR loans and ADU's. Furthermore, investors look at income to create value for a property. What an investor is willing to pay for that income or benefit creates the comparable sale. So in essence, it is based on income.

Post: HOA not allowing ADUs (California)

Dennis MaynardPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 300
  • Votes 146

They are not. Townhouses and condos are not zoned for SFR, they are not subject to the law. Furthermore, HOA's that have restrictions on additions in the CCR's are binding to the development and neighborhood. You cannot force it. Let me know if you have further questions.