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All Forum Posts by: Michael G.

Michael G. has started 37 posts and replied 340 times.

Post: Long Island investors

Michael G.Posted
  • Wholesaler
  • Bay Shore, NY
  • Posts 359
  • Votes 199

You could ask a local investor. The last time I asked an investor to "show me the ropes"...he essentially said...Why would I show you how to flip houses in the same market as me and create competition for myself?

Post: Builder from Long Island

Michael G.Posted
  • Wholesaler
  • Bay Shore, NY
  • Posts 359
  • Votes 199

Hello Kevin - I'm right around the corner from you in Bay Shore right off Orinoco.

I come across Suffolk county wholesale deals all the time. PM me and lets talk a bit. -Mike

Post: Investor apprentice bandit signs

Michael G.Posted
  • Wholesaler
  • Bay Shore, NY
  • Posts 359
  • Votes 199

I've seen them also. Mainly off the LIE service road and couple of other high traffic locations. They sound kind of scammy like "Make $20K a month".

In fact I think I called a similar sign about a year ago and when I got the call back it was for an invitation to a seminar for Noveau Riche. Check out some info on them

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nouveau_Riche_(college)

Super scammy. I bet it's the same company. If you want let us know when you get the call back if that

Post: Hurricane Sandy Victims

Michael G.Posted
  • Wholesaler
  • Bay Shore, NY
  • Posts 359
  • Votes 199

If you buy and build from nothing depends on whether that strategy makes money.

I'm not a builder or a renovator of homes so I can’t answer that question. My response to your initial question was given from a wholesaler’s perspective.

A better question for you to research is how many Sandy homes made a profit that were re-built and sold as new construction?

If you are committed to finding the answer you need to do your research and find several buyers of properties that were rehabbed and speak with the renovators of those properties and find out if it was a money making or a money wasting proposition.

Post: Hurricane Sandy Victims

Michael G.Posted
  • Wholesaler
  • Bay Shore, NY
  • Posts 359
  • Votes 199

I was just talking to someone about this last night. As a wholesaler I thought Sandy home were going to be slam dunks. Turns out every one I encountered my cash buyers wouldn't touch them with a 10 foot pole. 1) They had concerns that any property they renovated by the water would just sit because everyone would be terrified that another Sandy would come along and 2) The new requirement to raise Sandy affected homes by 2 feet made the repair costs prohibitive.

Post: Flip and fix workshop

Michael G.Posted
  • Wholesaler
  • Bay Shore, NY
  • Posts 359
  • Votes 199

Sounds interesting. Who was it sponsored by and what was the cost? Curious what their position was on paying contractors or how to hire good contractors or a good general contractor.

Post: Overcoming investors' competition

Michael G.Posted
  • Wholesaler
  • Bay Shore, NY
  • Posts 359
  • Votes 199

Just a minute. Let me get my soapbox…

It's not unusual as a wholesaler to have competition. Someone mentioned on this post that you need to switch up your marketing strategy. Maybe. Maybe not. Also you said "maybe 10 investors" Is it 10 investors or is it 4 or 5? I get competition all the time. Occasionally I ask my sellers. “How many letters did you receive similar to the one you received from me?” The answer has never been 10. Responses have been 4 or 5 or a lot (whatever that means). I don’t care. Its' healthy and really nothing you can do about it especially if you are looking at a hot deal in a very desirable neighborhood, good schools, high equity, etc. I don’t care if my competition is 1 investor or 20 investors.

Competition is relative. There is just competition and then there is GOOD competition. The question is who can perform? Obviously if sellers are calling you then you are doing something right but what happens after that? IDK how many leads you have talked to but what happens after that first phone call that is not getting you into the deal?

A few posters mentioned the following but it's worth repeating.

1) Follow - up - You might start out with the seller receiving 10 investor letters. How many of them follow up? How many of those 10 actually looked at the property? I don't wait around for the sellers to call me if it's a property I like. I track down their phone number and call them after my direct mail piece is sent stating that I'm just calling to follow up. 2) Speed - a) Are you picking up your phone on the first or second ring or are you sending them to voicemail? When sellers call they are HOT right then! If someone calls and I accidentally miss that call I call right back! b) Not sure who you are marketing to (probates?) but how fresh are your leads? Are you sending your letter 30 days after all the other investors? Of course you are competing with a bunch of investors if you arrive at the party late. c) How quickly can you get to that property and do your analysis \site survey? Can you set a same day appointment? If you hear from a seller at noon can you say I can be there by 3 or my people will be there by 3? d) How big is your buyers list? Do you have buyers that will pay a little more than other buyers? All buyers are not the same. Some are downright cheap. Some are not willing to take risks. Had a buyer just last week ( one of my main guys) that wouldn’t buy a house in Deer Park because he couldn’t see the inside but the profit margins were damm near $100K+. The seller was practically giving away the house away. Took it to investor 2. Snapped it up in 1 day. Also, how quick are your go to buyers? Do they respond quickly to your calls or do they take their time? A buyer with bad response times can cost you a deal (ask me how I know this) ...but I digress.

How much volume are you doing in terms of lead generation?Are you strictly doing direct mail or do you have bandit signs or other forms of lead generation? The more methods you have to generate leads the less competition you will have. Especially if you are dominating your market. It’s simple math. The wholesaler with 50 bandit signs can’t compete with the wholesaler who has 250 bandit signs. How invested are you in your wholesaling business?

A lot of wholesalers don’t know how to handle objections. Do you? What’s your response to “how much are you willing to pay me for my house?” Or…”Are you going to try and low ball me for my house”. When a seller tries to say they want retail for their house that hasn’t been updated in 30 years, do you have a script or patented responses that you follow for some of these questions?

Wholesaling is cyclical. In other words...wholesalers come and go. The same wholesaling bandit signs I saw 2 years ago I don’t see any more but for a hot 6-8 months we were competing for the same corners.

Which brings me to my last point…you have to not quit.You have to be ruthless and relentless in your wholesaling endeavors and you WILL close deals.

Post: how to find a cash buyer?

Michael G.Posted
  • Wholesaler
  • Bay Shore, NY
  • Posts 359
  • Votes 199

 @Javier Perez-Karam

I have someone. PM me to discuss.

Post: Is Wholesaling possible in Brooklyn and Queens?

Michael G.Posted
  • Wholesaler
  • Bay Shore, NY
  • Posts 359
  • Votes 199

@Javier Perez-Karam First of all congrats for getting after it! 

Bed-Stuy \ Crown Heights! Wow,,,you jumped right to the major leagues! I have a couple of thoughts as well as questions. Questions - 1) If you are targeting defaulted mortgages do you have a strategy in place to execute on that deal from start to finish when the defaulted homeowner says they want to work with you? (i.e.: short sale specialist, cash end buyer) 2) How many touches do you plan on doing for each lead before you expect to get a response. I think @Damon Bodine mentioned door knocking. I think that is an excellent idea. That way it’s not really a cold call because they received your letter and your intro when you knock on the door is "Hello - My name is Javier. I was just following up on a letter I sent about your property and wanted to know if you had any questions." 3) Are you doing the mailings yourself? If you outsource that task it’s not as daunting. You could train a 14 year old to do it.

Thoughts - I would keep hammering it out but your strategy has to be consistent. I also think in highly desirable target markets like the ones you are targeting you can't auto-pilot your strategy. Personally if I were in that market today I would be touching doors every day. All 200 of them. I used to live in Bed Stuy so I know the values and your wholesale pay days could be $15k - 25K base hits with the occasional 50K + home runs. Your competitors could be right here on BP for all you know.

Occasionally you will get comments like the one you received regarding what you may have learned on books and tapes. There is a good and healthy amount of disrespect and disdain for wholesalers by some members of the BP community. Don't sweat it. Just keep grinding and post some check images of your wholesaling fees!

Post: New Member from New York

Michael G.Posted
  • Wholesaler
  • Bay Shore, NY
  • Posts 359
  • Votes 199

@Rashana Garcia - Girl I know you are not on here looking for REI advice!!!

You have probably been involved in over...what?...100  investment property deals in Rochester NY? 

I'm just messing with you Rashana. Welcome to BP.

....you know the saying..."you don't know, what you don't know..."

If you ever need anything reach out. 

I'll tell you one thing. There are plenty of BP'ers from Rochester NY and the surrounding areas on this site. Don't be surprised if you run into people you know on here. (obviously).

Happy New Year and happy investing!