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All Forum Posts by: Bryan Hartlen

Bryan Hartlen has started 28 posts and replied 281 times.

Post: Go-to kitchen floor tile

Bryan Hartlen
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  • Phoenix, AZ
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Why not LVP in kitchen also? I’m assuming it’s not a class A rental so LVP could work. It wears well and is waterproof?

Post: SFR DSCR terms?

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Quote from @Timothy Hero:
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So ultimately, it shouldn't make a difference between non recourse or recourse anyways. However, I'm not an attorney, so I can't fully say. I just know one of my non recourse lenders stated this.

@Timothy Hero this is not something I'm looking for to limit my risk (although it is a benefit).  It is a legal requirement on SDIRA and SD401k's.  Any loan secured by SDIRA/SD401k must be non-recourse or the beneficiary's entire SDIRA/SD401k holdings are subject to disqualification (ie they become immediately taxable). 

Post: SFR DSCR terms?

Bryan Hartlen
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  • Phoenix, AZ
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Quote from @Caroline Gerardo:

Recourse 30 year term 7-8% rate if property is ready to lease 20% down FICO high desirable location, investor knows what they are doing.

Non recourse priced like hard money shorter term 24 months- 5 year term rates 11%-22%  some are only 50% loan to value or half down payment from your fund. 

I see others answering not reading that you CANNOT be a borrower with your fund source. BIG difference in the details. NO RECOURSE loans to a self directed deal mean NO FICO is used, no HUMAN involved, no person guarantees WAY different than NONQM or DSCR for 1-4. @Bryan Hartlen a number of people gave you WRONG answers.

My list. I DO NOT Broker these as the fees and rates are way to high for my blood. Most of these are short term and you have to keep refinancing or sell or payoff. Non owner only 1-4 units in location they like. I can give you phone numbers I do not make any referral fees and charge them nothing but a hug when I go to some conference.

North American Savings this is not a regular bank they loan in AZ expect 50% LTV on a prime property with 4 points 14% rate for five years. has a prepay

Solara  does AZ 65% ltv 2-3 points 11% rate for 5 year then due and payable. 

Marshall REddick/ Pac Crest/ Axos all at 50% LTV 3-4 points 5 year terms 12- 15% depending on quality of property and DSCR ratio Jim at JMAC also does in the same range, he's a decent gentleman and answers the phone if you are easy on the eyes (meaning not a pain) 2 points at 12-13 I would call him first in your situation.

In California Coastal I have other referrals at 65%-75% ltv for lower rates. Since these are hard money dudes they charge what they can sell and know what everyone else does. Great property, lower rate, they see what they might recover. Call me for some kinder names.

Follow the rules. Know the restrictions like your front teeth, do not make an exception and have the tax man on your back.

Thank you for the info.  

Post: SFR DSCR terms?

Bryan Hartlen
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  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 286
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Quote from @Timothy Hero:

I've brokered nearly 250 DSCR loans in the last 3 years. When it comes to AZ, I'd say 70-75% of the industry doesn't lend there. The ones that do usually base rates on the 10-year swaps and 5-year swaps, and those have been trending up for the last 3 weeks.

I'd expect rates for AZ to be around 8.5% right now, which hurts, knowing so many DSCR lenders are 7.5% right now.

Thanks Timothy. I appreciate the info.  I live in AZ but invest primarily in Birmingham, AL.  Have you brokered non-recourse loans:  DSCR or other long term notes?

Post: SFR DSCR terms?

Bryan Hartlen
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  • Phoenix, AZ
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Quote from @Caroline Gerardo:

Since you are using your self directed 401k or you mean IRA? You cannot do a recourse loan. 99.8% of DSCR lenders are full recourse as they rely on the person's mortgage middle FICO for pricing the loan as well as location, property type, LTV, DSCR ratio, experience... There are a few with Trust in their company name but when you get the rates in the 15-22 % range it's not going to make you smile, none that I recommend. Other option is to get a loan against the 401k or IRA direct from who holds the account.

@Caroline Gerardo I did mean self-directed 401K. Operates like SD-IRA but I have full checkbook control (and responsibility) without requiring a custodian. SD401k loans also need to be non-recourse. But I invest non-qualified funds also, so I was interested in how/where the terms typically vary between recourse and non-recourse.

Post: SFR DSCR terms?

Bryan Hartlen
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Quote from @AJ Exner:

@AJ Exner looking at options right now.  The ability (or inability) to leverage debt will affect the underwriting of specific properties (and how many properties). 

Post: SFR DSCR terms?

Bryan Hartlen
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  • Phoenix, AZ
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Thanks for all for your replies.  

I'm currently looking for options to invest my self-directed 401k funds in rentals. I can buy the properties outright but was hoping to find an option to scale by leveraging debt (hence the non-recourse requirement).

Post: Contractor Issues and Duplex needs rehab

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@Jamarique Wynn it’s hard to answer your questions without knowing the specifics of your contract. Are you making milestone payments as work is completed, or did you pay him in full up front, or something in the middle?

Assuming that your contract has terms that cover how the contractor could breach the contract (eg not completing work items in a documented prescribed order) then you would have grounds to fire him. Depending on how you structured payments in the contract you may owe him funds, he may owe you funds or even possibly in the middle.  This area is almost always open to some level of subjectivity. 

As for asking for a refund it woudl also come down to what your contract says and also if this is refund for work performed or for advances. Getting a refund for in-scope work, that was performed out of prescribed order, but work you still paid for - would probably be difficult. 

Lastly, taking a contractor to court for unfinished work seems like a waste of time (again unless you mean you paid him in advance and want some of the funds returned post firing).  Court will take months. Court will have costs.

Changing contractors in the middle of a job will almost always cost you time and money, so unless your contractor is incompetent or a cheat, it’s almost always better to try and see if you can find a way to complete the project with the same contractor.

Post: SFR DSCR terms?

Bryan Hartlen
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  • Phoenix, AZ
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Anyone have recent experience with terms for SFR DSCR loans? Any differences besides rate for non-recourse vs recourse?

Post: Cash flow is not King Part 2

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@Arn Cenedella thanks for the post.  

What made you decide to put the extra $195k down to go with the fixed rate?  At the end of 2021 / start of 2022 interest rates would have started to move but I can’t remember to what extent? 

How do you position a deal like this with your investors?  
- The timeframe to exit is obviously longer: do you model for the full 10 year hold?  Or do you model 3 - 5 with the 10yr note being insurance should a longer hold become required?
- What about the impact on COC? The extra $195k required wouldn't help. Do you stress the impact of the principal pay down when you exit over the holdtime's COC returns?