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All Forum Posts by: Andreas Mueller

Andreas Mueller has started 45 posts and replied 158 times.

Post: Where should you buy Real Estate? And When? It's Simple, Buy Green.

Andreas Mueller
Agent
#4 Classifieds Contributor
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Nashville, TN
  • Posts 196
  • Votes 99

No worries Carlos I just fundamentally disagree with that, especially as a long-term investor. For me and of course, it’s my opinion, population growth is number one as the building block for any other data input. I’m not flipping houses and needing to sell. My article just made the point about return on equity, which is a different conversation altogether.

In any case, have a wonderful holiday, enjoy. 

Post: Where should you buy Real Estate? And When? It's Simple, Buy Green.

Andreas Mueller
Agent
#4 Classifieds Contributor
Posted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Nashville, TN
  • Posts 196
  • Votes 99
Quote from @Carlos Ptriawan:

The problem when people following the same way of thinkin is driving herd mentality LOL

hence some folks losing money in 2023, been telling folks since beginning of time that the best place to invest is always in your own backyard because there's higher competitiveness you can do to create value. My IRR when I invest locally is like 30-40%IRR with 2x EM.


 Totally, generating alpha by looking for market inconsistencies and a contrarian play is fundamental. I wouldn't disagree there. 

Post: Where should you buy Real Estate? And When? It's Simple, Buy Green.

Andreas Mueller
Agent
#4 Classifieds Contributor
Posted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Nashville, TN
  • Posts 196
  • Votes 99
Quote from @Carlos Ptriawan:
Quote from @Andreas Mueller:

Appreciate the points Carlos, there are clearly many many data points/sets that one can look at to predict natural appreciate of home values. My point is, in general, a population must be growing otherwise everything else breaks down. It's the basic measurement I use. If population ceases to grow, so does real estate. This includes any particular supply/demand metric you are using. However, of course both can be true here. Not disagreeing with you. 

In terms of inventory tracking, there are too many variables that affect inventory so its not a guiding principle, for me. One recommendation, if it's helpful for the group, https://twitter.com/LoganMohtashami is a GREAT follow on twitter. Great insights and I agree interest rates have been the main driver of inventory supply. 


 I talk to Logan too almost every other day.

It's not about agreeing and disagreeing, but there's no parallelism between price and population.

The highest job increase is in Dallas right now and people is decreasing leaving San Jose for example, but home appreciation in 2023 alone is higher in San Jose than in Dallas. Check Zillow or any other metrics. 

For us investor, price trajectory is more important than population growth. Population growth is good for goverment and business owner. But that's secondary when it comes to what influences the market. 
Highest declining inventory is on Oakland Michigan right now.

Dallas is good for homebuyer because it offers lot of job in that market and price is relatively cheaper because there are lot of supply.

Carlos, Population growth is the basis for price appreciation (and/or trajectory), IMO. I would push back a bit on there being no correlation (parallelism) between population and price. I think we may just disagree there. But again, appreciate your point of view. Glad to hear you are a Logan fan. 

Post: Where should you buy Real Estate? And When? It's Simple, Buy Green.

Andreas Mueller
Agent
#4 Classifieds Contributor
Posted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Nashville, TN
  • Posts 196
  • Votes 99

Appreciate the points Carlos, there are clearly many many data points/sets that one can look at to predict natural appreciate of home values. My point is, in general, a population must be growing otherwise everything else breaks down. It's the basic measurement I use. If population ceases to grow, so does real estate. This includes any particular supply/demand metric you are using. However, of course both can be true here. Not disagreeing with you. 

In terms of inventory tracking, there are too many variables that affect inventory so its not a guiding principle, for me. One recommendation, if it's helpful for the group, https://twitter.com/LoganMohtashami is a GREAT follow on twitter. Great insights and I agree interest rates have been the main driver of inventory supply. 

Post: Where should you buy Real Estate? And When? It's Simple, Buy Green.

Andreas Mueller
Agent
#4 Classifieds Contributor
Posted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Nashville, TN
  • Posts 196
  • Votes 99
Quote from @Carlos Ptriawan:
Quote from @Andreas Mueller:

Hi BP Community! Thought I would share my brief, hopefully insightful, dive into real estate and/or financial markets.

Today we’re keepin’ it short, but not light, it being the holidays and all, and let’s be honest, you are going to have some down time for contemplation. Where should you be looking to invest in real estate? The simple answer may surprise you. Plus, a personal story from a property I recently sold. It’s heavy.

Today’s Interest Rate: 7.32%

(👇 .08% from this time last week, 30-yr mortgage)

First, a super brief look at mortgage rates, which are in a trend down, albeit a short one, as we saw toward the end of 2022.

My take: this trend will continue, especially if the Fed signals a pause in rate hikes and/or cuts in 2024, as the large investment banks are predicting.

Where to ‘Real Estate?’

So where should one invest in real estate? And when? In short, if it’s green buy now.

This chart says it all. Buy green, sell purple, redeploy capital to dark green, and avoid dark purple like the plague.

At its center, that’s all real estate is. Buy in growth areas, were people not only want to live but are actively moving to. Keep up on the population trends and sell to redeploy capital so you are always in the green.

Don’t believe me? Let me tell you a story. (Queue cut-away scene)

Most of my real estate portfolio is in and around Nashville, TN (dark green). However I also own one last property in DC, where I lived and worked for 17 years in my previous lift, and invested in rentals for most of that time. In just the last 1.5 years DC has gone from green to purple. Dark purple, especially in the B class neighborhoods, interestingly enough. Under my nose, and I admit I wasn't paying enough attention, a 15+ year trend quickly reversed: from buying a nice rowhouse after getting your first decent government job, which ostensively never relocates and always requires you to be in the office, to, screw that lets move a few minutes out of the city, get a much larger home with some land because I’ll just commute, and likely only have to do that 3 days a week. If that. Importantly, DC city and Federal government lockdowns were pretty stringent for 2 years, providing an extra incentive to bounce to the suburbs. This trend may reverse, but that’s the trend.

Because of this, home prices in much of DC, more so than the major cities, have stood still for 2+ years. To put this in perspective, my home market of Nashville saw annual price increases of 19%. Each year.

This year (not during covid or previously) I had two tenants in a row who were constantly late and/or didn’t pay the rent. So this early fall, when I went to turn over the leases and find new tenants, I was met with even more difficulty in both the number of and quality of potential residents. This 2023 trend confused me. I had easily found tenants in the past, and until this year, they were always great folks.

The renovated kitchen in my DC rowhouse

What was the problem? One thing I hadn’t accounted for was a confluence of 2 events: a ton of new supply of nice rental apartments competing with homes, interest rates driving down demand/affordability of homes and driving up demand for high-quality apartment rentals, families and other folks leaving DC for the suburbs, and significantly increased crime (also favoring apartment buildings vs single homes). In fact, Crime has gotten DEFCON level - ‘San Francisco’ in DC, I’m earnestly sad to report.

Anecdotally, not too far from my home a young man was killed when trying to carjack the car of an off-duty police officer. This man was wanted for several other carjackings as well. This “man”… was 13 years old. His accomplice, who was just arrested, was 12. As of October 1st, there have been 827carjackings this year in DC. Including to Member of Congress. Holy hell.

It wasn’t just the crime so don’t solely focus on that; I realized all of these things too late. So last month I decided to cut bait and sell. I’ll make a few bucks, but not much. Why am I selling when I have a 3% mortgage? It’s all about return on equity, and I recommend everyone do this every year. Ask yourself, how much equity (value/wealth) do I have in this property and what return am I making from it? If I sold and redeployed this capital into another property, would my 5-year return (my timeline of measurement) be higher? If so, sell and redeploy. And make sure to include all forms of investment income from the property when calculating the return, not just that rental check:

  1. - Cash flow and expected rent increases in the next 5 years
  2. - Estimated natural appreciation
  3. - Principle pay down of mortgage
  4. - Forced appreciation through a renovation (I couldn’t since I already did this)
  5. - Tax depreciation (3.6%/yr)
  6. - Non-Financial: crime, tenant quality etc…
  7. - Did I hit all the highlights @davidgreene? :)

Bottom Line

Learn from me, monitor your investments everyone. Especially if you have a property manager telling you everything is roses. You may still be getting that same rental check but how is the asset doing? Are there any emerging local trends that may cause concern? How can you asset manage the property better? For example: It may make sense to build a deck or landscape the backyard to keep top-quality residents and / or increase rents. In a high mortgage interest rate environment reinvesting in your current properties may make more sense than buying another property.

Should you redeploy? Is the property green or purple? Run the numbers, double check that every dollar you have is still a little worker bee making you the highest return on equity, even when you’re sleeping.

And above all, never lose money. That’s rule number 1 and 2.

Stay Green Y’all.

That’s it for this week. If you are interested in digging deeper into these ideas or talkin’ real estate investing - which I always love doing - don’t hesitate to reach out. You can direct message me on BP!

Until next time, stay Aware, stay Skeptical.

Herzliche Grüße

-Andreas

* The preceding has been my opinion only, the views are my own, and are intended for educational and entertainment purposes only and does not constitute financial advice.


 Following population increases is the worst investment metric investor can use , this should not be a single factor.


Appreciate the perspective Carlos, and I always like a good discussion. Please share your view here, or I would really love to chat! I always like chatting real estate! Feel free to message me. 

Happy Thanksgiving!

Post: Where should you buy Real Estate? And When? It's Simple, Buy Green.

Andreas Mueller
Agent
#4 Classifieds Contributor
Posted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Nashville, TN
  • Posts 196
  • Votes 99
Oh yes, I wouldn't rely on this actual image to guide your data gathering and to determine where population changes are. There are many paid and non paid population tacking and prediction data sources out there.

Anything in 2023 is likely an estimate. Census data is only taken every 10 years. BUT the Census Bureau puts out estimates, latest so far are 2022. Its a good site though:Here is an example of house you can use the US Census site: I've compared NYC to Washington DC, both lost populations last year up to the data they have (7-22).
https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/DC,newyorkcityn...

Otherwise paid sources that use models to estimate populations would be the way to go. 

Hope you liked the post! Happy Turkey Day!


Quote from @V.G Jason:
Quote from @Andreas Mueller:

VG, there is a link as well. Map should be clickable hopefully. DM me if not

 Still isn't working, but to the point of this topic. This is covid to low rate era. Yes, era, even though it's less than 12 months ago. 

2023 is painting a very different picture, I would like to see that one YTD if possible.  Believe the mid-west, new york, and even noCal are picking back up.

I think we'll revert back to this 2020-2022 map but over the course of the next 3-5 years starting in 2025, and not as sudden as it came nor as aggressive. There's still more bleeding for the primetime cities(Austin, Nashville, etc.) before there is relief. 

For example, if a place like SF lost 50% to Austin & these dark green cities, I think we see retracement and they'll get back 30% of it. That's still a net loss for SF/net gain for Austin. Likewise for other parts of No/So Cal and Idaho, Nashville, etc,. Those areas will go from purple to light-ish green. And the dark green will stay dark green in primetime cities, but revert to light green in non prime cities(like Central Florida), Idaho, Montana, maybe even white. 

People are impulsive enough to sell their California house to move to Montana within 6-12 months of Covid, they will be impulsive enough to go back once they realize not all was resolved. The problem with that is right now they're locked into those low rates so they're not willing to sell in Idaho, and buy in California. Add the fact they are likely under water in some areas of Idaho & Montana from when they bought, it's definitely not a good time. 

If/when rates hover around 6% for primaries(which may take 6 months to 2 years), I think you see that pattern inverse and people sell Idaho, Montana/buy California for example. Likewise, we are already seeing a bit of that in Austin as is most of them are actually moving to Denver, San Antonio, Asheville. Heck, even Raleigh is picking up.

You want to go where the puck is going, not where it's been. 


Post: Where should you buy Real Estate? And When? It's Simple, Buy Green.

Andreas Mueller
Agent
#4 Classifieds Contributor
Posted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Nashville, TN
  • Posts 196
  • Votes 99

VG, there is a link as well. Map should be clickable hopefully. DM me if not

Post: Where should you buy Real Estate? And When? It's Simple, Buy Green.

Andreas Mueller
Agent
#4 Classifieds Contributor
Posted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Nashville, TN
  • Posts 196
  • Votes 99

Hi BP Community! Thought I would share my brief, hopefully insightful, dive into real estate and/or financial markets.

Today we’re keepin’ it short, but not light, it being the holidays and all, and let’s be honest, you are going to have some down time for contemplation. Where should you be looking to invest in real estate? The simple answer may surprise you. Plus, a personal story from a property I recently sold. It’s heavy.

Today’s Interest Rate: 7.32%

(👇 .08% from this time last week, 30-yr mortgage)

First, a super brief look at mortgage rates, which are in a trend down, albeit a short one, as we saw toward the end of 2022.

My take: this trend will continue, especially if the Fed signals a pause in rate hikes and/or cuts in 2024, as the large investment banks are predicting.

Where to ‘Real Estate?’

So where should one invest in real estate? And when? In short, if it’s green buy now.

This chart says it all. Buy green, sell purple, redeploy capital to dark green, and avoid dark purple like the plague.

At its center, that’s all real estate is. Buy in growth areas, were people not only want to live but are actively moving to. Keep up on the population trends and sell to redeploy capital so you are always in the green.

Don’t believe me? Let me tell you a story. (Queue cut-away scene)

Most of my real estate portfolio is in and around Nashville, TN (dark green). However I also own one last property in DC, where I lived and worked for 17 years in my previous lift, and invested in rentals for most of that time. In just the last 1.5 years DC has gone from green to purple. Dark purple, especially in the B class neighborhoods, interestingly enough. Under my nose, and I admit I wasn't paying enough attention, a 15+ year trend quickly reversed: from buying a nice rowhouse after getting your first decent government job, which ostensively never relocates and always requires you to be in the office, to, screw that lets move a few minutes out of the city, get a much larger home with some land because I’ll just commute, and likely only have to do that 3 days a week. If that. Importantly, DC city and Federal government lockdowns were pretty stringent for 2 years, providing an extra incentive to bounce to the suburbs. This trend may reverse, but that’s the trend.

Because of this, home prices in much of DC, more so than the major cities, have stood still for 2+ years. To put this in perspective, my home market of Nashville saw annual price increases of 19%. Each year.

This year (not during covid or previously) I had two tenants in a row who were constantly late and/or didn’t pay the rent. So this early fall, when I went to turn over the leases and find new tenants, I was met with even more difficulty in both the number of and quality of potential residents. This 2023 trend confused me. I had easily found tenants in the past, and until this year, they were always great folks.

The renovated kitchen in my DC rowhouse

What was the problem? One thing I hadn’t accounted for was a confluence of 2 events: a ton of new supply of nice rental apartments competing with homes, interest rates driving down demand/affordability of homes and driving up demand for high-quality apartment rentals, families and other folks leaving DC for the suburbs, and significantly increased crime (also favoring apartment buildings vs single homes). In fact, Crime has gotten DEFCON level - ‘San Francisco’ in DC, I’m earnestly sad to report.

Anecdotally, not too far from my home a young man was killed when trying to carjack the car of an off-duty police officer. This man was wanted for several other carjackings as well. This “man”… was 13 years old. His accomplice, who was just arrested, was 12. As of October 1st, there have been 827carjackings this year in DC. Including to Member of Congress. Holy hell.

It wasn’t just the crime so don’t solely focus on that; I realized all of these things too late. So last month I decided to cut bait and sell. I’ll make a few bucks, but not much. Why am I selling when I have a 3% mortgage? It’s all about return on equity, and I recommend everyone do this every year. Ask yourself, how much equity (value/wealth) do I have in this property and what return am I making from it? If I sold and redeployed this capital into another property, would my 5-year return (my timeline of measurement) be higher? If so, sell and redeploy. And make sure to include all forms of investment income from the property when calculating the return, not just that rental check:

  1. - Cash flow and expected rent increases in the next 5 years
  2. - Estimated natural appreciation
  3. - Principle pay down of mortgage
  4. - Forced appreciation through a renovation (I couldn’t since I already did this)
  5. - Tax depreciation (3.6%/yr)
  6. - Non-Financial: crime, tenant quality etc…
  7. - Did I hit all the highlights @davidgreene? :)

Bottom Line

Learn from me, monitor your investments everyone. Especially if you have a property manager telling you everything is roses. You may still be getting that same rental check but how is the asset doing? Are there any emerging local trends that may cause concern? How can you asset manage the property better? For example: It may make sense to build a deck or landscape the backyard to keep top-quality residents and / or increase rents. In a high mortgage interest rate environment reinvesting in your current properties may make more sense than buying another property.

Should you redeploy? Is the property green or purple? Run the numbers, double check that every dollar you have is still a little worker bee making you the highest return on equity, even when you’re sleeping.

And above all, never lose money. That’s rule number 1 and 2.

Stay Green Y’all.

That’s it for this week. If you are interested in digging deeper into these ideas or talkin’ real estate investing - which I always love doing - don’t hesitate to reach out. You can direct message me on BP!

Until next time, stay Aware, stay Skeptical.

Herzliche Grüße

-Andreas

* The preceding has been my opinion only, the views are my own, and are intended for educational and entertainment purposes only and does not constitute financial advice.

Post: Networking for out of state - Nashville TN!

Andreas Mueller
Agent
#4 Classifieds Contributor
Posted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Nashville, TN
  • Posts 196
  • Votes 99

Happy to introduce you to some trusted contractors/subcontractors and PMs that I use here in Nashville. Send me a private message. Happy to chat too about the market. 

Post: Mortgage Market in Disarray

Andreas Mueller
Agent
#4 Classifieds Contributor
Posted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Nashville, TN
  • Posts 196
  • Votes 99
Quote from @Martin Lewis:

@Andreas Mueller

Awesome job on the market report🫡


 Thanks my man!