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All Forum Posts by: Travis Beehler

Travis Beehler has started 17 posts and replied 300 times.

Post: Commercial loans for Residential in St. Louis Missouri?

Travis BeehlerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Vancouver, WA
  • Posts 308
  • Votes 144

Hi All!

First off, thank you everyone for the sound advice over the years, and all your help!

So, I had a lender in St. Louis, MO, who would do commercial loans for residential housing (25% down, 4.5%, 20 year fixed), but they have been bought by a bigger bank that does not do those kinds of loans anymore for out of state investors such as myself.

So, to continue my real estate empire, it looks like I'll be forced to use a different lender. Anyone know of any solid lenders that meet that criteria? If so, let me know, I'd greatly appreciate it!

As a side note, within the next year or two, I will be looking at 5+ unit apartment buildings, and I'd prefer to not to have to make that leap prematurely, but will if I have to. :) I'm selling my existing rental here in Vancouver, Wa., which will give me plenty of cash to buy such a place, but would like to stick to SFH for the foreseeable future.

Travis

Post: Did you quit your job? We wanna brag about you!

Travis BeehlerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Vancouver, WA
  • Posts 308
  • Votes 144
Originally posted by @Dawn Anastasi:
Originally posted by @Jose Perez:

@Dawn Anastasi

How many properties did you acquire before you quit your job?

I had just closed on my 9th property (using conventional financing) earlier in the month when I gave my notice.  I closed on my 10th in April, before I was officially gone.  Then I acquired 2 more last year after I had left.

 If you don't mind me asking Dawn, what's your rough net per month?  10 properties there might be a fortune in cash flow vs. where in other places like NY and LA, it might be not nearly enough.  Thanks!

Travis

Post: Mortgage for LLCs

Travis BeehlerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Vancouver, WA
  • Posts 308
  • Votes 144

I guess I lucked out, in that I found a bank to do a straight 20 year fixed, commercial loan with 25% down.  Is that unusual, or fairly common?

Post: When did/do you know its time to quit your job?

Travis BeehlerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Vancouver, WA
  • Posts 308
  • Votes 144

Hi Chance,

My personal goal is to be able to have my current salary, after taxes, RELIABLY, coming in every month, to be able to think about such a thing.  Plus, have about 50-100k in savings for emergencies.

However, I know me, and I'll want even more money coming in after taxes to think about retirement from my current job.  Luckily, I'm in a high paying job that I like, with people who are easy to get along with.

So, what I would do if I were in your shoes, is figure out how much you'll need per month after taxes, and shoot for that goal on a regular monthly basis.  It would really suck to have a $5,000 net month, quit your job, then the next month have a $3,000 month and have to eat the loss.

Here's my monthly goals to help out:

Current age: 40.5

Current net monthly income from rentals $1,000 (roughly)

First goal: Replace monthly income (roughly $6k per month)

Second goal: $10k per month

Third goal: $25k per month.

I think once I hit around $40-$50k per month net, will be the time for me to think about retirement.  If my calculations are right, with my current amount of rentals and their profits, I should be able to hit $50k in September 2024.  :)  But, that means I'm throwing every dollar of rent towards the next down payment, and my bonus checks towards down payments as well.  Because "**** happens", I think that's likely a pie in the sky estimate. :) 

Hope that helps!

Travis

Post: What percentage of your tenants are late with the rent?

Travis BeehlerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Vancouver, WA
  • Posts 308
  • Votes 144
Originally posted by @Marcia Maynard:

Hey Travis! We're in the same town! We have 15 units occupied and one new property that we're getting ready to rent. 15 tenants x 12 months = 180 payments per year. Of those, at least 50% come in on or before the 1st, about 50% come in by the 5th which is the grace period allowed to avoid a late fee. So I guess that is a pretty good track record! 

Here's some background that may be helpful for you to consider.

Most of our tenants are long term and we use MTM rental agreements. We have B and C properties and our niche is affordable housing for low income/fixed income folks. We teach our tenants... "Don't be late, mail by the 28th!" We also encourage those with bank accounts to set up auto pay with their bank. We don't send out rent reminders. 

Tenants who pay on or before the 1st get a star in our rent register. Our "all-stars" receive special benefits such as having their unit upgraded first when we do upgrades, special requests are more often accommodated, and occasionally we give them a special thank you gift. But most of all, no matter what a person's age... 5, 10, 15, 25, 40, 60, or 80... it seems people like to get a star for good performance and take pride in that!

We collect our rents at a P.O. box and then take them three blocks to our credit union. Most of the tenant checks/money orders are in the P.O. box when we check them on the first, those are the ones that pay in advance. The rest are usually there on the third when I make another pick-up. A few will come in during the grace period, which if paid the 2nd - 5th are still technically late, but won't incur a late fee. One of our tenants gets his social security check on the third, so if he pays on the third we don't consider him late.

If a tenant is late, we contact them right away, let them know we did not receive the rent and inquire when we can expect to see it. We give tenants Rent Past Due letters on the 6th and charge the late fee at that time. The Rent Past Due letter explains what they must do to continue to live in the unit they occupy. If they don't pay in a timely manner, we post notice to Pay Rent or Quit on the 8th, unless we have made other arrangements with the tenant for getting their rent. There is an additional $20 fee if we post a notice for non-compliance with any term of our rental agreement.

Out of 15 tenants there is one that gets a late charge about twice a year, and pays rent only one or two days past the 5th. The late fee is our compensation for our tolerance and extra effort. That tenant has been with us for 14 years! One thing to note, she is the only tenant on an older contract that has a $10 late fee. (We're planning on changing that, but just did a rent raise so now is not the time.) The others are on our newer contract that has a $50 late fee. The ones with the $50 late fee rarely if ever are late past the 5th. Our tenants tend to stay long term, one even at 26 years and counting.

We never let rent go unpaid past the mid-month mark. As a courtesy we waive the late fee the first time or for extenuating circumstances. However if the tenant is not performing, we will be swift, firm, fair and polite, but will come down on them with legal notices to Pay Rent or Quit and/or a Notice to Perform. In 20 years we have only had to do three evictions. All three tenants were failing to pay rent and violating the rental agreement in other ways. We evicted for failure to pay rent since it is much quicker and easier to do. Evictions in our jurisdiction take less than 30 days, so there is great incentive for tenants to pay their rent! 

Your management style plays a key role as most people respond better when treated with respect and fairness. Your rental agreement and enforcement of it will determine if they pay on time.

 Hi Marcia!

Yay for the same town! :)  Your info was super helpful, thank you very much!  I have one rental here in town and the rest in St. Louis (Much cheaper, and a better bang for my proverbial buck).  I'm also looking in Atlanta, Wisconsin, and the Carolinas.  Lately, it seems like here in our area, there's a real estate boom in prices, which have pushed me out of the market unfortunately. :(

Travis

Post: What percentage of your tenants are late with the rent?

Travis BeehlerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Vancouver, WA
  • Posts 308
  • Votes 144
Originally posted by @Account Closed:

I managed a 26 unit apartment building, and when I first took it over as the resident manager (so I rented out 25 units), I'd say about 5 or 6 would pay late - so around 20%.  Once I got rid of the deadbeats I inherited (part of my job was to get rid of the deadbeats and collect back rent due), I'd say that went down to around 3, so 12%.

But, then what I did, was I'd send a mass text to anyone who hadn't paid me by the 4th - they had a grace period until the 5th, rent is late on the 6th.  And voila! I didn't have late payments after that, except very rarely, and usually it would be a couple times a year with students waiting on their next financial aid payment.

So, if you get rid of deadbeats, and go ahead and send some type of reminder, it will really cut down the late payments, in my experience.

I really resisted reminding people to pay their rent at first, thinking I shouldn't have to be their mommy.  But, the bottom line was that it was a lot more work for me to deal with late payments and additional bank deposits, etc., etc.  It ended up being easier on me to send a reminder text every month.  And yes, some depended on it, but several thanked me for doing it :-)

Oh, and I'd tell tenants they get "one free pass" where they didn't have to pay a late fee, and we agreed on a date the rent would be due.  After their one free pass, they'd have to pay a late fee if they were late again.  Although, I do admit that I waived this for the students relying on financial aid that was late, and they could show me the financial aid letter or get the financial aid dept to send me an email saying the payment was late, but was coming.

 Thanks Sue!

That is actually a very good idea!  I have my first tenant who's starting to become habitually late (late twice now in 3 months), and I think a quick text or email would be a great idea!

Post: What percentage of your tenants are late with the rent?

Travis BeehlerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Vancouver, WA
  • Posts 308
  • Votes 144

Just curious, for those of you who have multiple rentals, what rough percentage of your tenants are late with the rent?  It doesn't have to be one particular individual, just curious about overall, what could I ballpark expect month to month?  Thanks!

Travis

Post: How do you handle Lease Renewal?

Travis BeehlerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Vancouver, WA
  • Posts 308
  • Votes 144

A little side note for you.  Me personally, if the tenant has paid their rent in full and on time every month, I VERY RARELY raise the rent on them.  It's nice to have a solid tenant, and unless I'm hit with a higher bit of taxes or insurance, I tend to leave them alone chugging along happily making the mortgage, insurance, taxes, property manager, and a few bucks a month in my pocket.

Post: Newbie ALERT from St. Louis, MO

Travis BeehlerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Vancouver, WA
  • Posts 308
  • Votes 144

Welcome!  I have a few rentals in Saint Louis, so feel free to ask anything you'd like to know!

Post: thank you BP...first property under contract!

Travis BeehlerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Vancouver, WA
  • Posts 308
  • Votes 144

Congrats!  The first step is always the scariest, but as long as you're patient and sock away money for emergencies, you'll be just fine.  Awesome job!