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All Forum Posts by: Travis Beehler

Travis Beehler has started 17 posts and replied 300 times.

Post: St Louis multi-family properties realtor

Travis BeehlerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Vancouver, WA
  • Posts 308
  • Votes 144

I know a guy who might be able to help.  PM me and I'll get you his info.  He's a property manager, but also has his realtor's license and I trust him implicitly.

Post: Taking Action

Travis BeehlerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Vancouver, WA
  • Posts 308
  • Votes 144
Originally posted by @Tyrone Green:

@Travis Beehler,

Thanks for the mention, I am returning the favor.

Another comment you may have heard, or will hear is "That is hard to get into", or maybe even. "That is hard to do".

I like to challenge those people by replying, "hard compared to what?"

This reply will shut most anyone down because they will have a blank stare on their face. What they are saying is they are comparing RE "investing" to doing NOTHING, as they are most likely doing. And yes, RE is hard compared to doing NOTHING all day.

 Exactly.  It's hard work...at first.  Now that I've got a nice feel for how things should go, it's a LOT easier.  I'm always in learning mode, and open to new ideas, but signing final mortgage documents on my first rental was mentally tough.  It hit me as "Wow, this is really real now, and I'm a real estate investor".  I did some reflection on the drive home from the title company's office, and ultimately was glad with my decision once I got home.  It's just easy to coast along and not take risks.  But in the end, you'll be happy that you did.

Post: Drawing money out for personal things

Travis BeehlerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Vancouver, WA
  • Posts 308
  • Votes 144
Originally posted by @Patrick Noel:

As a LLC you are allowed to either make a draw and/or a distribution. A draw is basically payment for your services rendered within the company since according to LLC Rules you cannot be an employee if you are a member. A draw is basically synonymous for "salary". A draw is also tax-deductible for the LLC. Since a LLC is a Flow-through entity, you can wait year-end and have your portion flow through to your Personal tax returns and cut yourself a check then. For the best results it is best to consult a Tax Accountant or your CPA, for a more qualified recommendation. Best of Luck!

Ah ok perfect! I plan on talking to my CPA about this as well. I was just curious if I could have the LLC pay my future mortgage or pick up a shiny new Tesla. :)

Post: Getting called a "slumlord" by friends and family

Travis BeehlerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Vancouver, WA
  • Posts 308
  • Votes 144
Originally posted by @Alex Silang:

I bought 2 triplexes in blue collar areas. I am very good landlord, I always fix things on time. I'll do extra stuff - for example last week it came down to repair the fridge or buying a new one. I went with buying a new one. 

What I've found is that some friends and family call me a slumlord. I'm not sure why, but this really hurts me. I'm not sure if I'm being too sensitive. I can understand their perspective - how could a 30 year old own 2 triplexes (we live in a high cost city)?

I usually just ignore them, but I'm thinking about debating them on it. 

Does anyone have any perspective on this? I'm not sure if this is the typical post in the forum but I'm sure others have faced it before. 

 Yeah, you can ignore them.  What I've found is that once people start finding out that you're doing well, either they want to invest with you (which is fine, but they don't get dollar for dollar equal footing with me.  They didn't do the research and hard work), or they have their hand out wanting money from you (loans, gifts, etc.)

My father's side of the family is the worst.  There's a handful of responsible adults, but there's a bigger than average amount of sponges who constantly ask me for money.  So, be aware that might be coming up with you down the way.

Post: Drawing money out for personal things

Travis BeehlerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Vancouver, WA
  • Posts 308
  • Votes 144

Hi all!

I have a few rentals at the moment all under my LLC. Everything is humming along nicely, and the extra cash is going straight into the commercial bank account I have set up for each property every month.

We've all talked about growing, making it big, etc, but what happens tax/legal wise when you withdraw that cash and buy something for yourself personally?

For example, let's say I own 50 properties and I'm pulling in $15k per month net.  Can I use that cash to say go buy a car, pay my personal mortgage, etc?

Ultimately, my goal is to have around $40-$60k per month net, and retire (about 10 years from now according to my calculations.)  I'd like to upgrade my primary residence to a much bigger place outside of the city.  There's no way I'd be able to afford it on my salary alone, so was curious what you all thought?

Thanks in advance!

Post: Anyone offering 10+ year fixed loans to LLC for multifamily?

Travis BeehlerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Vancouver, WA
  • Posts 308
  • Votes 144
Originally posted by @Joe A.:

Hello-

All the local banks I have spoken to are offering 5yr fixed/20-25 year amortization loans for multifamily loans with an LLC as the purchaser. Purchase price 250-500k. Anyone know of any banks that are offering longer fixed terms? I am worried about the 5yr reset on the rate. Thanks.

 I was in the same spot as you with a bank I'm talking to at the moment.  Every bank I've spoken to about this 5/20 type of deal has said that if my payments are in full and on time every month (easy enough to do with the types of deals I'm doing), then they will be happy to do another loan with it being 5/15, and keep going until the loan is paid off.  I think this more has to do with the fact banks got burned by the economy a few years back, and don't want to make the same mistakes.  They'd rather have a "reset" every 5 years, adjust the rate as well if necessary, and know that you are a solid borrower.

Anyone have any experiences out there with this kind of 5/20 deal being re-upped?  I'd be happy to hear your experiences.  I doubt multiple banks would lie to me about this, but wanted to verify that they were telling the truth. :)

Post: Taking Action

Travis BeehlerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Vancouver, WA
  • Posts 308
  • Votes 144
Originally posted by @Tyrone Green:

Hey @Erik Tollefsrud, welcome to BP!

I am here in Washington so I don't know anything about the Colorado market, but at this point I feel as though you should practice RAD- that means repitition, accountability and discipline. 

Find a small action related to real estate that you can begin immediately. It can be something like posting questions you need answers to here on BP. Point is repitition is key.

By accountability, I mean tell EVERYONE you know you have an interest in RE. By doing this you may even find a potential mentor. Soon your friends will constantly keep you accountable by asking, "So, how is the real estate thing coming along?".

Lastly, sounds like you already have the discipline I mentioned. Your local REI is a great place to network. Do what it takes to reach your goals, don't be discouraged by others who can't or don't understand what you are doing. Use any negativity as motivation to propel you forward.

Just my thoughts...

Much success!

 Couldn't have said it better myself.  Tyrone is absolutely correct, especially the part about being discouraged.  I've been told "no" more times than I care to count, lost deals to someone who swoops in with an all cash deal, been told I don't know what I'm doing and how I'll lose it all (they were basing that on their father's experiences with real estate, not what I had done and researched)., etc.  Just keep moving forward, take every "bad" thing that comes your way as a learning experience, and you'll do just fine.

Good luck!

Post: How vital is it to be in the same city as your first investment?

Travis BeehlerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Vancouver, WA
  • Posts 308
  • Votes 144
Originally posted by @Kyle Penland:
My PM is worth his weight in gold. Well worth it to use a pm imo

 Agreed.  My friend's father used to own apartment buildings, and would do all the PM work himself.  He had all sorts of headaches from crappy tenants.  Get a good PM (I have one as well), and they are worth every penny.  Not only can they get the job done for you, but they are also a good person to ask for advice for in terms of the area.  What area's to avoid, what rents are looking like these days, etc.

Post: 50% Rule Cash Flow Guideline

Travis BeehlerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Vancouver, WA
  • Posts 308
  • Votes 144
Originally posted by @Joe Villeneuve:
Originally posted by @Logan Hassinger:

@Joe Villeneuve

less than 1 year is fast, how do typically finance your deals?

The one I'm closing on soon is just conventional with 20% down. My potential deal coming up will be owner financed but I'll need 25k which will be from 

1 - All cash in to buy/rehab.

2 - Do rehab (target time is 30 days or less)

3 - 10-14 days from rehab completion to 1st REFI (actually a Loan of Credit) which gets me 70% ARV, which gets me all of my cash back (sometimes more)...15 year amortization

4 - 6 months of seasoning gets me my long term hold refi (75% ARV). This is usually $100 + better on my cash flow due to 30 year amortization

5 - Repeat steps on next deals.  Actually this step fits in between steps #3 and #4

 Hey Joe,

Quick question, how many places do you currently have?  I'm just starting out, but I like your strategy here and might use it when I get to a much higher number of units.  Thanks!

Post: Vetting property management companies

Travis BeehlerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Vancouver, WA
  • Posts 308
  • Votes 144

I found my property managers (plural), by asking hard questions.  My first guy I was a bit naive and didn't ask many questions.  He's turning out to not be that great.  The second one I have returns my calls on time, points me in the direction I want to go because he knows my goals, tells me what areas to avoid, and has been well worth the money I've paid him.

I'd say ask some questions that might be difficult for a shady person to answer, but easy for an honest one.  For example, I asked "If I have a problem after hours, who can I call"?  My not so great property manager said "Oh, there's an after hours number you can call that you can leave a message with and we'll get back to you".  I tried calling that one to see response times, and it was hours.  Not good if there's a leak.

The good one I asked the same question and he gave me the after hours number, which a live person answered, his cell number (which I will never call unless there's an absolute emergency that only he can fix), and a number of other ways.

The difference is night and day with property managers.  I don't expect them to fall all over themselves to kiss my ***, but at least be available within a reasonable amount of time.

Hope that helps!