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All Forum Posts by: Christopher B.

Christopher B. has started 26 posts and replied 686 times.

Post: Here are some of my Fix & Flip Tips. What are yours?

Christopher B.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Knoxville, TN
  • Posts 701
  • Votes 531

Be organized on the front end. Have your plan and stick to it. Changes, indecision, and unpreparedness cost you time and money plus make your contractors frustrated. Do them a favor and be organized and decisive so they can get things done as efficiently as possible. Happy contractor, happy investor. 

Only pay for completed work. No upfront deposits to contractors. It's OK to pay for materials for certain subs, it is not their job to fund your project but no labor payments.


Make sure you are covered with proper insurance. A lot of liability in this business. 


Find a balance between design and budget. If you're not good at design it's OK. Don't try to be original, Google is your friend. Find something you like and simulate the same style with your selections as close as you can. Copy the paint colors, etc. Don't make things harder than they need to be. 

You don't have to be an expert on construction but if you plan to project manage and over see the GC and/or subs then you need to learn the basics or you are going to get kicked around in this business. The stupid tax can be pretty hefty. 


Find your strength and hire/partner for the weakness. Half the watermelon is better than the whole grape. 


LVP is your friend. 

Don't chase deals on materials constantly. You are wasting time. Look to make it easy for to get materials organized and to the site. The service a supply house provides is most often worth the extra price you may pay because it saves you countless hours. If you are going to use a box store stick to Home Depot, sign-up for a pro account and take advantage of their backend office for Pro's, it is very robust and will make your life easier. 

Use text to confirm for order purchases or give your PM a HD/CC with a set limit.

Post: Jobsite cleanliness - what are your expectations?

Christopher B.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Knoxville, TN
  • Posts 701
  • Votes 531

Many moons ago I was OCD about site cleanliness. I would literally vacuum my site multiple times per week for example. I have learned to relax a bit. Lately maybe too much but I haven't had time or desire to be on site much. Optimally the site is swept daily and debris placed in trash. I like to see my materials organized and overages returned sooner rather than later when we feel we are done. I will be hiring a PM here in the next 60 days and site cleanliness will be an important point of emphasis. It is a reflection of the contractor. A clean jobsite is a safer and more productive jobsite. It also encourages subs to be cleaner and helps reduce damage to materials 

Post: Paying for a GC for a flip

Christopher B.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Knoxville, TN
  • Posts 701
  • Votes 531

Evan is spot on. I know somebody that does 50/50 with his GC's and it works for him. They front material costs, etc. This is the reality, finding good contractors is HARD. So hard, many, many people get pushed out of this business or voluntarily leave it. There is no secret to finding them unfortunately. Contact as many as you can, don't hire someone you are not comfortable with, and let them go soon as it becomes clear that working with them is not in your best interest. When you do find a good one, don't get comfortable, keep building the rolodex. A contractor can be a Rockstar one day then MIA the next.

Post: Best way to find off market deals in Knoxville

Christopher B.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Knoxville, TN
  • Posts 701
  • Votes 531

Haven't found a wholesaler here who can consistently find good deals for me. At least deals they wholesale at a price I am able to hit my target returns on. I don't blame wholesalers for wanting to maximize their profits, just results in me not being able to buy much from them so I source most of my deals in-house.  

Post: Am I wrong? Am I expecting too much from my real estate agent?

Christopher B.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Knoxville, TN
  • Posts 701
  • Votes 531
Originally posted by @Jeff Terry:

My wife and I are planning on relocating to East Tennessee to live and invest. We don't know much about the region other than what our research churns up (numbers, market forecasts, Google Earth views) and we really need a trusted partner to fill in those blind spots. 

Recently we've engaged with a realtor in Knoxville who has been willing to show us properties and fill in some details that aren't on the MLS listing. But when we ask "Is this a good neighborhood for rentals?" or "In your opinion, how many thousands will a rehab cost?" we get nothing. To the first question it's usually, "I have no idea," and to the second question, our agent won't even offer an estimate, a ballpark. We know that estimating a firm number on a rehab is somewhat foolish (things often go way over budget) but we are looking for a starting point and find a dead end.

My question to you fine folks: Am I expecting too much? I don't want to have someone do all our work and maybe I'm being a little selfish here. But this could be a beneficial relationship for us both as we plan on buying a 4 bedroom house to live in as well as several properties to rent for cash flow. 

I really don't know. 

 Hey Jeff, I am mobile and haven't had time to read through all the posts so excuse me if that has already been stated. 

Agents have to abide by Fair Housing laws so are not allowed to answer the question "is this safe". Some may but technically they aren't supposed to. They will direct you to crime maps and data sources for your own research. DM and I will be happy to give you some insight into the different areas though (I am not agent). 

For your 2nd question, "what is the rehab cost". Well, that is a toughy for anyone but especially agents. No offense to agents at all, there are some excellent agents out there but I have found most know little to nothing about the nuts and bolts of houses much less the cost to fix them. They're sales people. To be fair, what needs to be done or will be done isn't always 100% objective either. I am a GC, you could send me and another GC into a property  and we could come up with wildly different #'s if we're not on the same page on what the end goal is. Even if we were it still could be wildly off from eachothers #'s.

My wife is an agent. She rarely takes on buyers as she mostly uses her license to support our real estate business but she knows the game from both angles of retail and investment. If you're looking for referrals on a good agent(s) to interview I can connect you two, she knows some excellent agents in town she could introduce you to that work both retail and investors, just DM if you want. 

Post: 10 Unit multi-family. See value where others don't!

Christopher B.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Knoxville, TN
  • Posts 701
  • Votes 531

Multi's are selling for much lower cap rates than 8-10 caps in the Knoxville market. Maybe 5-7yrs ago one could find 8-10 cap properties sitting around but now you will need to do value add to get cap rates like that, if you can find them which has become increasingly more difficult around here. So kudos to OP for locating a 10 unit value add,, it's not an easy feat around here anymore. 

Just wanted to drop this note for the out of state investors licking their chops at the idea 8-10 caps are sitting on every corner in Knoxville because that is just not reality.

Post: Contractor in Knoxville, TN

Christopher B.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Knoxville, TN
  • Posts 701
  • Votes 531

9 months for cosmetic work? What is the scope? What has been done and needs to be done?

Post: Rethinking REI Strategy

Christopher B.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Knoxville, TN
  • Posts 701
  • Votes 531
Originally posted by @Jim Cummings:

@Jennifer S. Welcome to the great State of TEXAS - your future (to be found) home of the Free - because of the Brave! The only requirement is to not bring MA politics along with you. 

Even with our High Property taxes you'll probably be money ahead selling your higher priced MA properties and reinvesting in Texas.

Let me know if I can answer any questions. 

 Unfortunately I have found this not to be the case. We have many transplants here, they are very active in local affairs and work to implement the same policies that they are running away from... blows my mind. 

Post: Looking to get started

Christopher B.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Knoxville, TN
  • Posts 701
  • Votes 531
Originally posted by @Jacob Morris:

Personally I'd rather own the property, rent it out, pay a management company. BRRRR would be nice, but not sure if I could do it all the time unless I could leave my job. That's the next thing. I've been told section 8 because it's guaranteed, I've been told to get a house that would be easy to sell later on. Obviously I've done the numbers on both. While section 8 has more profit it can come with more headache. I heard they pay for repairs and I've heard they done. Yes I understand I can say depreciation as well. Has anyone done both?

I would continue pouring your time into education and learning the ropes before pulling the trigger on a property. Everything you've asked can be found right here on BP. Section 8, some people love it and others do not. You can do anything you want. Buying a property and just handing it off to a PM who operates it perfectly isn't easy. It's not easy to find a good contractor, a good PM, the deals. This is a simple business but that does not make it easy. You will burn through that cash faster than you can imagine if you are not educated and prepared. There are a lot of wolves out there ready to take your money and this website is not safe either. Be wary of peoples motives, especially here on BP where the site has primarily become an advertising channel for guru's and agents. There are people on this site I know for a fact are incredibly shady and will steal the shirt off your back if they get the chance.


I am not trying to be a downer here or scare you aware from this business. It is a great business and you can have success in it. I am saying the questions you are asking are basic enough that my recommendation is to self educate more before you get involved with any agents, investors, or properties. Good luck to you.  

Post: Looking to get started

Christopher B.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Knoxville, TN
  • Posts 701
  • Votes 531

I agree with Louis. Find out what you want to do in this biz. It needs to fire you up because while this business is fairly simple, that does not mean it's easy. I live in Knoxville and there are BRRRR's to be found but you need to look in the right places and with the right lens. Rehabbing is popular but it's not the only aspect of real estate. I have done it for a long time and I do not recommend it to most people. Many, if not most, people burnout of rehabbing/flipping pretty quick, it's a tough business with potentially large "stupid tax".

Protect your cash like a mother bear. You have a respectable chunk of money that can help you get where you want but ensure you are educated on and committed to what you are doing before spending that money, especially if you get into a rehab. The "stupid tax" in this business can be large. I think we've all paid it at some point and you will too if you get into the game but you don't want it to be so early and so large it knocks you out.