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All Forum Posts by: Ryan Moyer

Ryan Moyer has started 11 posts and replied 851 times.

Post: Where would you buy two STRs to have comfortable weather year round?

Ryan Moyer
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Quote from @Brooklyn McCarty:

The Smokies in Tennessee is a great option


350k purchase price is going to be tough in the TN smokies.

Post: "No bookings for February"

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Let's not just blame it all on the newbies.  There were plenty of people with a microphone (even well seasoned experts here on this forum) that got caught up in the excitement of 2021 and were telling newbies that it was the new norm.

ETA: And a lot of realtors these past few years were just as bad as the lenders in 2008.

Post: AirBNB Bans Parents of Woman Fighting Child Trafficking - You're Next, For No Reason

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Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @Ryan Moyer:

"They're algorithm for trying to keep bad guests off the platform is a little too aggressive" is pretty far down the list. 


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Post: AirBNB Bans Parents of Woman Fighting Child Trafficking - You're Next, For No Reason

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Quote from @Ryan Moyer:

I honestly haven't followed this story at all, but 99% of the time these stories come up it's because someone acted like a troll and violated the ToS and is trying to drum up outrage by pretending they were banned because of their beliefs instead of their misbehavior.  And in the keenest form of irony, it's almost always someone that lectures about other people being whiney and not taking responsibility for their actions.

Thousands of people get banned from these platforms every day for violating the terms.  It's just when someone who is outspoken and likes to play the victim decides to throw a hissy fit when it happens to them that it makes headlines.

It's like an 8 year old that punches their little sister for no reason and then cries "you're not fair" when they get their ice cream taken away in response.

Like I said, I haven't followed this particular instance so maybe it's not the case here, but these perpetual babies have lost the benefit of the doubt.

It's her mother that has been banned, not because of any actions her mother  has taken. She's been banned because of who she is related to. That is called authoritarianism.

She's Not someone throwing a hissy fit.

 Yeah I just read a few articles on it to catch up.  It looks like Airbnb has an algorithm or policy that attempts to prevent banned people from accessing airbnb hosted homes through other people's accounts.  IE if they ban someone from staying in Airbnb properties, they don't want them staying there at all even if someone else books the stay.  I agree it's probably kind of silly but I'd assume the idea is if someone causes damage to a home or something they don't want them in another airbnb property to repeat it even if someone else makes the booking.  Ironic that an algorithm designed to protect hosts by punishing guests is causing outrage when host's #1 complaint is that airbnb too often favors guests at the expense of hosts.  

I realize that in this case there wasn't damage involved but I doubt the algorithm or policy is sophisticated enough to differentiate in the reason for banning.  It's just a matter of trying to keep banned people out of airbnb hosted homes.

Yeah it sucks and sometimes people get screwed by it.  That's just called life and this is true of every company.  It's only a story here because it's someone that likes to create controversy had an opportunity to do something against a company they perceive to differ politically.

I mean, I'm banned from Wells Fargo because I turned on my VPN between Wells Fargo log ins and Wells' algorithm thought I was trying to access my account simultaneously from multiple countries.  I'm sure this algorithm has banned hundreds of others from banking with them but no one knows about it because they're just regular people.  If I were a famous controversial figure I'm sure I could say that Wells banned me because I'm from Florida or because my hair is brown or whatever reason I dreamed up and a million chumps would plaster cries of boycott across the internet.

There are a lot of reasons to be wary about relying on airbnb (or any company) for too much of your business. "They're algorithm for trying to keep bad guests off the platform is a little too aggressive" is pretty far down the list. 

Post: AirBNB Bans Parents of Woman Fighting Child Trafficking - You're Next, For No Reason

Ryan Moyer
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  • Orlando Kissimmee, Davenport
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I honestly haven't followed this story at all, but 99% of the time these stories come up it's because someone acted like a troll and violated the ToS and is trying to drum up outrage by pretending they were banned because of their beliefs instead of their misbehavior.  And in the keenest form of irony, it's almost always someone that lectures about other people being whiney and not taking responsibility for their actions.

Thousands of people get banned from these platforms every day for violating the terms.  It's just when someone who is outspoken and likes to play the victim decides to throw a hissy fit when it happens to them that it makes headlines.

It's like an 8 year old that punches their little sister for no reason and then cries "you're not fair" when they get their ice cream taken away in response.

Like I said, I haven't followed this particular instance so maybe it's not the case here, but these perpetual babies have lost the benefit of the doubt.

Post: STR channel manager

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Hostaway looks nice but unlike Ownerrez they keep all documentation for setup and on what they actually support behind the paywall until you sign up, and they offer no trial.

I used to wonder how they got people to sign up with no transparency and no trial. That was until I started noticing the sheer number of "people" on BiggerPockets and STR Facebook groups whose ONLY posts are posts where they talk about how they're a Hostaway user and love it so much.

Bots and shills out the wazoo.

Post: Evolve Property Management

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Post: STR channel manager

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Quote from @Sean Mentzinger:

I would also vote hostaway over guesty.  guesty is great if you have 40+ properties and want to invest your time in their customizations. hostaway can handle hundreds before it breaks, or leaves you wanting more visibility, but at that point you can build whatever is missing on upwork


 I did the demo call with Hostaway the other day and it seems nice as a slightly less feature filled but maybe more intuitive alternative to Ownerrez.  The biggest problem was that the pricing really starts to get out of whack as you add properties.

So while it's somewhat price competitive for 1 or 2 properties by the time you get to 5 or 6 properties it's almost triple the cost of Ownerrez.  And that disparity only gets wider and wider as you add more properties as most channel managers discount very heavily once you have a lot of properties whereas Hostaway's discount is very minor.

30 properties on Ownerrez is $250/mo compared to $750/mo on Hostaway.

Post: Need STR advice

Ryan Moyer
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Was it the realtor that was trying to sell you the condo?

Post: Need STR advice

Ryan Moyer
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I think I know the place you're talking about.  This is the A-frame that was $850k but needs a total gut job inside?

If you have the money to do some upgrades, that place is a pretty screaming deal in the current market.  Hard to find 4br's in the Smokies at that price point now, much less one in a good location and with exterior charm that will drive clicks on Airbnb/VRBO.

I think this entirely comes down to your view on the broader market going forward.  In the current market, I think that place will do well.  Most of the struggles people are having right now are related to oversupply, not the economy.  A big falloff to the economy (definitely possible) is the only thing I'd be worried about with this property.  But as things are now, where only the mediocre hosts with mediocre properties are struggling, I think this property would do well if set up properly.  If it's the one I'm thinking of.