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All Forum Posts by: Ryan Moyer

Ryan Moyer has started 11 posts and replied 851 times.

Post: Is now a good time to invest in the Smokies?

Ryan Moyer
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YES!!

Shaun Moore has a great quote about this on his podcast regarding the current market.  He says something like "people are quick to give themselves all the credit when things are going well, and none of the credit when they're not".  Essentially people succeeded when a blind monkey succeeded and they think it's because of something they did, and then when things start taking a reasonable level of competence they don't have they start blaming it on the broader market, convincing themselves it's impossible to make money in this market.

And it's not even that the market is poor now, it's just really good instead of really really really good.  So these people bought at the right time, they think "I'm freaking awesome at this", and then when things start to settle a little bit back towards normal they start blaming everything else.  "It's the economy!".  When in reality they're just saying they suck too much to do this when it's just easy to make money, instead of when it was super easy to make money.

I hate to pick on the guy, but Robuilt is kind of an example of this, though slightly different.  His returns are actually pretty poor relative to the market he bought them.  He basically bought at the right time, and now makes the majority of his money teaching and on social media.  His STRs barely bring in as much revenue in total as many of us here generate from 1 or 2 properties.  The dude bought a $3M Scottsdale mansion at the peak of the market that generates $12k-$15k revenue per month in the HIGH SEASON, and people are lining up to pay for his course on how to do it, totally blind to the notion that it only works for him at all because of the tax benefits it provides for his large teaching/social media income, and any of them would be bankrupt after making a purchase that bad.

Post: Income and expenses tracker

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Quote from @Bill B.:

If you have less than 30 properties Quickbook’s little brother quicken is 10x easier to use and only costs $50. Auto download all bank and credit card transactions. Categorize by property and expense and income type. Easy to create reports detailing any specific property, I/E type, date range. 


 I stumbled on Quicken yesterday and it looked much easier but sadly they don't connect with my smallish bank which was surprising to me because Quickbooks does.  I don't really understand why they each connect to different banks through Plaid.

Intuit in general does a terrible job of making clear what the differences in all these software versions are and who needs what.  In reality I think quickbooks is more designed for professional accountants and large companies but a lot of consumers have stumbled upon it and Intuit is like "well if they're going to pay for it we're not going to tell them it's way more cumbersome and expensive than they actually need and drive them somewhere else".

Post: Income and expenses tracker

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"Simple and easy to use" is the last sentence I would use to describe quickbooks, at least for real estate.

I've tried out probably 10 in the last year.  Quickbooks by FAR the most annoying to use.  But also the most complete (and expensive).

Expensify I would say is the easiest to use and has the best interface, but it only does expenses (not income).

If you're in it for the long haul it's worth considering Quickbooks as you'll eventually get used to the (awful) interface and malfunctioning rulesets, and as you grow and need more complicated things it will have them.  But it's a long process to get comfortable in there.

Post: Airbnb's Future into 2023

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Quote from @Jay Thomas:

It is becoming increasingly clear that Airbnb has a bias towards favoring guests over owners, and it's not just a perception. Real estate brokers have voiced their concerns about how this can negatively impact the market long-term, as it opens up an avenue for short-term renters to take advantage of homeowners who are seeking long-term tenants. It's also led to an increase in bad apples on Airbnb, such as those who cause property damage or break rental agreements. The reality is that Airbnb needs to adjust their policies and make changes that better protect both owners and guests alike if they want to stay competitive in this arena. Otherwise, they risk losing customers to other real estate services that are more balanced and accommodating.


Speaking of bias, hosts think Airbnb overwhelming favors guests.  Guests think Airbnb overwhelmingly favors hosts.  It's really a no-win situation for Airbnb.

Post: Diverse STR locations

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It all depends on your goals, risk vs reward, etc.

Diversifying is generally safer, but you'll probably miss out on the potential for huge instant rewards like the people who bought 5-10 cabins in the Smokies pre-2022 and now swim in money like Scrooge McDuck.

Diversifying less also has the advantage of having more streamlined systems/workers.  You communicate with and train 1 or 2 cleaners, handymen, etc instead of 10 different ones.  And since you provide a lot of business they are more likely to prioritize you than if you just had 1 property with them.

On the flipside, my wife and I's goal has always been to get 12 STRs scattered around the country by the time the kids are out of the house, at which point we'll move around living in each place one month at a time.   A month on the beach, then a month in the mountains, etc.

Post: Anyone know the best way to start an Airbnb business in Miami?!

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Quote from @Michael Baum:

Hey @Melanie Hernandez, AirBNB is a platform so it sounds like you want to start a competitor for AirBNB, Booking.com or VRBO.

I have to assume that you mean buy a STR in either Miami or Orlando.

Orlando has a lot of rentals in the mix but it can be done.

Miami has a lot of restrictions within the city so you would really have to drill down.

Your question needs more data. It's like asking "I am hungry, tell me what to eat."


 Burrito.

Post: Airbnb's Future into 2023

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FWIW 99% of the time hosts put outrageous charges in their house rules they're just trying to scare guests into complying (likely because they've had a lot of issues with it) and they aren't actually going to charge it.  If it wasn't in the house rules on the listing (before you booked) then it's unlikely airbnb would allow them to collect it from you even if they tried.

The upfront pricing stuff has been solved, but I always thought it was funny Airbnb took so much flack for that when every company does the same thing.

Saving total pricing for checkout is an American thing, not an Airbnb thing.  In Europe Airbnb has had upfront total pricing for years, it was only in the US where every other website does the same thing that Airbnb followed suit.

Booking a rental car with Avis.  $40/day for 3 days = $120 total.  Whoops after clicking through 6 pages of checkout (at least Airbnb put it on the first page of checkout) it looks like that's actually going to be $235.

Airline companies show the price for the stripped version of sub-basic economy now, then upcharge for main economy, seats, bags, etc as you go.

Heck even Target I can try and buy a $5 coffee mug and it doesn't tell me it's actually $11.36 after tax and shipping until the submit order page.

Post: How are investors feeling about the Texas STR market?

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Quote from @Denver McClure:

demand is falling as we move into a recessionary environment meaning consumers have less discretionary income to spend on travel and layoffs are impacting household budgets. 

 Demand likely will fall.  But demand has not even begun falling yet.  Both Amex and Visa just called out travel spending specifically as being a standout amongst their spending categories, blowing historical figures and their predictions out of the water.

Airbnb and Airdna are reporting the same.  Discretionary travel spending is still at peak, outlier numbers.

It's a common misconception going around.  The recent fall in occupancy rate is 100% supply driven.  If and when demand does actually drop, the occupancy gaps people are seeing right now will seem like child's play.

Post: Frustrated with VRBO fees

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Quote from @Ken Boone:
Quote from @Ryan Moyer:
Quote from @Dave Stokley:

I mean they are collecting and remitting the tax for you, so there's value in that.


It's not like they give you an option so they shouldn't be charging on it, nor does their competition.

This would be like a PM taking their commission out of the total guest booking including taxes, which would be ridiculous.


 Correct me if I am wrong.  I was under the impression that that service fee is to cover the credit card processing.  If that is the case, the credit card processing would be on the full amount, which would include the taxes, which if that where the case then it would make sense.  I might be wrong about that though.

Interesting.  I've always assumed that credit card merchant fees were only charged on the subtotal, not the post-tax total, but it looks like I was wrong about that.

It seems kind of silly to think about.  So we are essentially paying for the privilege of collecting sales tax for the government. 

Post: Frustrated with VRBO fees

Ryan Moyer
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Quote from @Dave Stokley:

I mean they are collecting and remitting the tax for you, so there's value in that.


It's not like they give you an option so they shouldn't be charging on it, nor does their competition.

This would be like a PM taking their commission out of the total guest booking including taxes, which would be ridiculous.