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All Forum Posts by: Mike Carino

Mike Carino has started 7 posts and replied 122 times.

Post: Another post on how much Detroit sucks?

Mike CarinoPosted
  • Engineer
  • Suwanee, GA
  • Posts 127
  • Votes 47
Originally posted by @Account Closed:

How about this... if you don't own property in Detroit and / or have ever been to Detroit for real estate due diligence... shut your mouth! Keep your ignorant opinions to yourselves. As for the investors buying Detroit like myself... we will continue to enjoy 30+% returns and the rest of you can be happy with your 1-3% returns. 

 +1,  there really is no other explanation to that comment.

@matt cramer If you want to invest in Detroit,  two questions.. who is your target market? Who is on your team to help you find deals and rehab to that target market?

Answers those two questions honestly, and have the checkbook behind the rehab projects and you can do terrific.

Post: Detroit

Mike CarinoPosted
  • Engineer
  • Suwanee, GA
  • Posts 127
  • Votes 47
Originally posted by @Christian Hutchinson:
Originally posted by @Bridget Smith-Osbourne:

@ Christian Hutchinson & @ Mike Carino. Great information guys. I have heard a lot about Woodward Corridor & Cass Corridor. These are definitely two areas I would like to explore. I came upon an article highlighting the plans to redevelopment Southwestern Highschool. Sakthi , an Indian based billion dollar company is planning on creating 650 jobs. Manufactoring jobs/campus and trainining center for new engineers.  It' s plans are to expand it's current Southwest Detroit facility. During my site visit I was able to tour this area and not the nicest area in town. I was able to validate that its current operation is up and functioning & next to  the abandoned school as the article stated. I  will keep a watch on this area to see if it's expansion will launch.                                          

Yes, I have heard of him. Take this whichever way you want, but guys like Strather are a whole different level than say someone like myself or Mike.  My operation is a family operation, all of us have FT jobs(IT, Medical, Engineering), and we are pinching pennies together leveraging via your standard 20%-30% down payment, Investor Mortgage, or paying cash for a place to add to the Portfolio of Properties.  Working on properties ourselves, or hiring people to do the work. Mike can speak for himself, but from what I understand his situation is similar or more advanced.

Strather gets OPM(Other People's Money), tax credits etc, engineers deals that sometimes do well(Motor City Casino) or others with so-so results(Woodbridge). He is a full-out developer.

If you have access to his deals, and you can ride his coattails, and learn from him that's an opportunity to take advantage of. Google Herb Strather, and you can get a full scope of his dealings and projects.

I don't know what type of Cash and Credit you are dealing with.  So whats happening or projected to happen over at old Detroit Southwestern High School, I wouldn't even know or understand how to profit off of something like that...But I can tell you in that part of town on the other side of I-75 there is Mexican Village aka Mexicantown that has lots of properties you can get fairly cheaply, rehab, and then rent them out for a nice return. 

Basically, meaning if you had maybe $100K in cash and another $100K in credit you could easily generate $3000-$7000 a month in rental income with moderate effort in 6-18 months. In terms of rentals I do not see people who are Engineers or someone in a White Collar/Gold Collar job living in SW Detroit in the next 5 years in even moderate numbers.  To put it in perspective those Interns I discussed.  They first will look in Mexican Village because its cheap its near Downtown, it has a density of bars and restaurants.  They just see $300-$700/month...They feel its worth a shot.  Some actually do decide to live in SW Detroit, but most live the "7.2".  Then after looking at a few places they circle back to the "7.2".  They pay $1000+ for a place, and they are happy to pay it.

You have to understand Dearborn Heights(New Rochelle), and the Pointes(similiar to Rye or Scarsdale) to place them similar to NY suburbs(I travel extensively for work) which are nice areas aren't far down I-94, nice schools, parks, extremely safe, lots of amenities.  Then if they chose the City of Detroit they wouldn't want to live in that section of town, there isn't even a grocery store, gas station or pharmacy within 2 miles of Southwestern HS.  Not to mention its surrounded by old industrial factories that are abandoned, warehouses, power plants, water treatment facilities, shipping docks.  They would move to Corktown(which is less than 3 miles from Old SW HS), Midtown, Boston-Edison, East Jefferson, or the Villages.  All these locations would be less than a 10 Minute drive to this place.  SW West Detroit has ALWAYS been a working class community even when Detroit had 2M people and had the highest standard of living in the country.

Again, if you are plugged in with guys like Strather and his deals you are in luck.  For people like myself, if $50K goes out the door, I need to start seeing some money in 60-90 days.

Here is the map of the "7.2" here. Thats 7.2 sq miles of Downtown Detroit, and the "Greater" Downtown Area.  Once you get outside of those boundaries life gets very interesting.  Of course being just on the other side of the street or one or two blocks outside of it is no big deal in some cases(New Center).  Then there are other places Woodbridge, and Eastern Market where you will discover why Detroit has the reputation it does.

One good question to really ask yourself on top of finding your team, is you really need to narrow down your target market here. That is literally the block to block difference downtown in these "spillover" areas @Christian Hutchinson is preaching.  Who do you really want to rent to? Students, Young professionals, hipsters, artist, low income families, section 8? This will help ask the right questions to the  "right boots on the ground" people, and will know what type of properties to get into, how much effort is needed on your end,  what type of rehab, and the cost it really takes to play ball. I am involved in the Southwest area, Mexicantown/Hubbard Farms/Corktown in which I am experiencing tenants  moving to more affordability and more space places, or want a better living condition that's affordable. But this is something your not going to find from headlines on  newspapers, looking at schools/crime rankings from the internet. I found this teaming and partnering with the right people.

To me it is exciting to be in Detroit investing and anyone can bash it. But  I am involved in the community board meetings, talk to non profit organizations, community service, and urge others to join me. It is a sense of doing something better for the city, and that's bigger than me. 

I do understand its easier to be in metro Detroit, so I am also involved in the downriver metro areas. And like many metro areas here that make it very easy for those out of state. Very good property managers will hold your hand and make it a turn key experience, and give you outstanding cash flow. Join one of many REIA meetings here and you will have a handful of people willing to help you.

Post: Mobile home park- Michigan

Mike CarinoPosted
  • Engineer
  • Suwanee, GA
  • Posts 127
  • Votes 47
Originally posted by @Dennis Jayy:

Looking at a mobile home park in Farmington Hills, Michigan.     48336 Need opinion on the location. Good or bad?

Thanks

 If it is on 9 mile/middlebelt intersection. I literally live in my personal home down the road only 3 miles down the road. It is a terrific area in a great surrounding neighborhood. PM me if you need any assistance. I would love the education experience on mobile home investing

@Danielle Hammond

Welcome to the BP community,

My advise is start with those small community banks and see what things they look for to  mortgage the house to you.  They may even have a line of credit you can apply to get some capital for the renovation. A strategy some investors use is hard money lenders to front the capital for projects and once renovated refinance the home into a traditional mortgage. There is ton of info on the site about it. You will find out these two paths, they really wont care about credit.

I am newer to Michigan, but I know everyone here loves to go to the UP and get out on the lakes. I been up to the typical Mackinac Island and Sault St Marie, and its definitley its own world up there. You could be onto something, offering vacation rentals up there. You may be amazed how much someone would actually spend weekly if you are in the right location, offering the right amenities. I am frequent airbnb/vrbo user and know there are investors on this site that have vacation rentals.

 Best of luck

Post: Detroit

Mike CarinoPosted
  • Engineer
  • Suwanee, GA
  • Posts 127
  • Votes 47
Originally posted by @Bridget Smith-Osbourne:

@ Christian Hutchinson.   I would love to know which area(s) of Detroit you are currently investing in (highly profitable and desirable) . I just visited Detroit for the first time and am seriously considering investing here. Really impressed with Downtown. Have been told by many locals they are seeing changes that were not present a few years back. Planning a second trip in August. Any thoughts/ inputs really appreciated

Bridget I would advise on planning your 2nd trip, to seek out your team to work with that will be your boots on the ground here and REI meeting and BP are great start. This will give you a sense of what will work. Being in the hot area is possible, but you will be beat to the punch by the local investors and investors that have a strong teams. Alot of people ask on here where to go, than eventually start asking how do they do it.

Post: Credit Analyst- Ask me anything

Mike CarinoPosted
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  • Suwanee, GA
  • Posts 127
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@Isaiah Foster

Hi, I would like to reach out to small/community bank portfolio lenders to cash out refinance 4 properties I have under my LLC through a partnership. I have owned these properties under a year and will are just got it rehabbed and rented the last 4 months. The main reason to cash out is to pay for rehab other 3 homes in the partnership.

Are there any guildelines of how long the business entity had been around, and have owned the properties? Would the value be looked at the actual purchase price of the home since I have owned under a year?  Would lenders like to know all the homes in the portfolio even if they are not rented and rehabbed?

Both my partner and I have typical w-2 jobs  that is sufficient enough to cover the loans. Also have excellent credit.

@Rod F.

Thanks for the insight. I myself am not relying on this as my income as both My partner and I have steady salary jobs. Any insight on how you are building business credit? Sounds like you have found a great lender that has worked with you over the years. I am currently looking in my area for banks that will provide portfolio loans in my area.

Post: noone will do a cash out refi on rental house?

Mike CarinoPosted
  • Engineer
  • Suwanee, GA
  • Posts 127
  • Votes 47
Originally posted by @George P.:

lots of banks are doing it now a days.. try "the mortgage center"  in Southfield.  they did ours.  also try "independent bank". . if not let me know and I will get u more names. 

 Thank you so much for posting this topic and the info on local banks here is Southeast MI. Myself, is also having the difficulty of finding a local bank that can cash out refi on my investment properties

Post: Newbie in Monroe, MI

Mike CarinoPosted
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  • Suwanee, GA
  • Posts 127
  • Votes 47

@Matt Flood

Welcome to BP! You will find a wealth of knowledge and fellow investors in the area. I grew up down the road from Monroe in Toledo, so I know exactly where your at. I you don't have much luck in Monroe, outside of investors buying up land and getting into farming lol.  But if you come alittle north of you, I know Trenton/Wyandotte/Soutgate areas you can find solid investments where the rehabs wont break your pockets, and have a good rental market, iif your a little hesitant on a big rehab project.

Best of Luck

Hello

I currently hold 4 properties outright in an LLC partnership that I formed last year with another investor. The properties are all rented and are showing income this year. I will acquire another 6 properties to the LLC by utilizing our own personal funds to acquire these properties through foreclosure auctions. My situation is we need to leverage our personal income to get the homes, but will run short on funding to rehab all the properties quickly without outside capital.

I am looking for more information of portfolio loan or blanket loan, I have been reading about here on the forums. I would use the money and fund for rehab of properties, and possibly recoupe some of the personal funds back to fund other projects.

My question is when seeking out this type of lending, what do they look for, and some restrictions that I should be aware of to be better prepared

What are some of the typical protocols banks look into when evaluating this type of loan funding an LLC?

-Do they look strictly into evaluation of the properties as a whole?

-Am I better showing 10 homes in my portfolio, instead of only 4 homes?

-Do they look and see how long you have been in business, and how long I have owned the properties?

-Personal income/credit of partners in the LLC come in place?

-Does this seem to be a strategy many investors do?

Yes I am aware of private lending, hard money lenders etc. But I am not interested in knowing anymore information about those avenues of financing.

Thank you all in advance