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All Forum Posts by: Mike Mocek

Mike Mocek has started 7 posts and replied 222 times.

Post: Looking for good real state areas in Toledo Ohio

Mike MocekPosted
  • Property Manager / Licensed Realtor
  • Toledo/Columbus, OH
  • Posts 244
  • Votes 262

Hello @Clara Cobian, This is a great question but I think you should be asking, what are YOUR goals, and how do you want to accomplish them?  Toledo is a diverse market that provides opportunities in all areas.  I will send you a PM.

Post: Investors and a Recession

Mike MocekPosted
  • Property Manager / Licensed Realtor
  • Toledo/Columbus, OH
  • Posts 244
  • Votes 262

Economic conditions come in cycles just like it does in Real Estate. While there is plenty that will make investors happy, a time will come when housing prices will fall, leasing those that have made investments in real estate regret their losses. But what is the cause of a real estate collapse? Most look at a recession. No matter how dreaded this might seem, it is bound to happen at one point or the other. With our current economy and the path we are going, it is likely to happen sooner, rather than later so it is imperative that investors educate themselves just in case this happens.

Due to the uncertainty of the market we are in, people who have invested, whether it be quite a bit or lesser, in the housing market, most ask - How will this affect me as an investor. I am going to dive in to take a closer look at how an economic recession could impact the real estate market. Using historical situations, coming up with what might happen if this adverse event does in fact happen.

What is the housing recession?
Housing recession usually comes from “Speculating,” which is when investors buy houses to make profits from them when they make a sale in the future. It creates a high demand and skyrocketing the prices of homes. With more speculators joining in, a crash is imminent. When there is a downturn in the economy, those who took mortgages and loans may find it difficult to clear the debt, especially since we are seeing interest rates increase. In order to break even, most investors will start to sell their properties for lower rates, giving room for lower prices.

Even though a housing recession can hurt our country regardless of the economic environment, it is vital to understand that these events are usually short-term, meaning that recovery is achievable within a short period.

What causes a housing recession?
There are many factors that structure a housing recession. Some major causes of a housing recession can be affordability, false demand, and even a hardcore economic recession. When the purchase value of a property is too high, the demand reduces and investors must reduce those prices because the property is no longer in demand. Even with a price slash, buyers will still be skeptical because there may be something “wrong with the property” or question “Why is it not swooped up yet.” This is considered affordability in the market.

False Demand is another very important key. Due to the “speculation,” more investors are seeking loans and mortgages to buy their assets and sell them off at an even higher price. As long as investors are getting decent rates, this works, but if you are one of many buyers in the market, you are looking at slowly creeping interest rates which creates a faux sense of demand.

House prices during the Great Recession

In 2007, disaster struck as the economy plummeted, creating what most termed “The Great Recession.” The result of this specific scenario was extreme, millions of Americans lost their jobs and the housing market ultimately collapsed, sending the economy into a spiral. Although the housing bubble exploded, it is extremely important to understand that the crash stemmed from years earlier.

From 2000, house prices in America became high, and lending provisions that should have been more strict and iron-clad because loose. When the crisis became full-blown in 2007, numerous foreclosures and defaults resulted in the financial market crash. The value of homes attached to financial securities associated with subprime mortgages depreciated during this time. Subprime mortgages are terms issued by lenders to borrowers that are considered risky.

Since agents and buyers did not follow through with these, things got to an all-time low, resulting in a final collapse. The subprime mortgage collapse left millions of Americans without homes. With the economy spiraling, most people faced financial doom as the properties they purchased via mortgages had the value of their homes reduced significantly.

Although the US Government finally stepped up to prevent further damage, the housing market bared most of the negatives associated with this Recession.

How will a Recession now, affect the Housing Market?
According to the Econofact, 8 out of 10 recessions since World War II resulted from a downturn in the housing market. With this statistic, it is clear for all to see that the housing market has a significant role in which direction the economy will take. While we have seen what happened in 2007/2008, it is often questioned, how will this affect real estate investors and the housing market if history was to repeat itself.


After speaking with many investors, watching the market trends, and looking at the history, this question is one of the most concerning questions for Real Estate Investors. So, what is there to expect? Depreciated Prices, High Demand for Rental Homes, Increased Rent and Real Estate Returns. As we saw in 2008, a recession that happens now will most likely result in reduced housing prices. This may be great for some people who actually want to own or rent for a lower price, expect mortgage rates to continue to grow.

Looking at previous events, such as COVID, we can see that most overseas investors have lost to be triumphant in the US housing market. Although we are seeing some ease in restrictions, we may see an uprise of investments nearing. During the last recession, most buyers became anxious due to the uncertainty of the economy, and buyers who had every intention of purchasing a home had reservations due to the income flux. In the same conversation, rental homes will become the go-to housing during this time. Regardless of rental rates increasing, people often prefer these real estate assets due to their cost-effectiveness at the time.

With the potential recession hovering over our economy, most investors are looking to grow in the regions they invest in preparation for the recession. Most investors are acting as such, due to the lower home prices in the respective markets. When they have tapped their resources, they are looking for the next best area. As cities are growing, there will be certain perks to take advantage of, and with no surprise, investors are moving to these places.

With that being said, if you fail to prepare, you are preparing to fail. An economic recession is bound to occur at any time and as a real estate investor, you need to set yourself up for the fall. Save money as your savings will help pull you through when the recession hits hard. Build a network and never underestimate the power of NETWORKING. During a severe economic downturn, your network can help keep you afloat. Although engaging other investors, realtors, and wholesalers work, make sure that you are a priority to them! As you expand your network, look into other markets as well. Diversity and networking go hand in hand.

The biggest takeaway should be to INVEST IN YOUR PROPERTIES, which might sound strange to some. Increasing the likeliness of your property by doing some minor updates such as paint, carpets, or flooring, ensuring your roof is maintained and you have dry basements (where applicable) can increase the viability of your property. This makes your asset stand out during hard times, makes your property more pleasing and if quick cash is a concern, will make it easier to find someone to rent or even purchase, your asset. Although recessions are never a good thing, making sure you engage in this adverse event with your head held high, is crucial. Since you would have prepared for this scenario, making the right investments is necessary.

Post: Agent & Property Manager Recommendations - Toledo, Ohio

Mike MocekPosted
  • Property Manager / Licensed Realtor
  • Toledo/Columbus, OH
  • Posts 244
  • Votes 262

Hello @Jon Kelly I will send you a message!  Thanks @Brandon Goldsmith for the shout out!

Post: Is there a new rule for buying 2-4 units with FHA?

Mike MocekPosted
  • Property Manager / Licensed Realtor
  • Toledo/Columbus, OH
  • Posts 244
  • Votes 262

It may be a lender specific requirement, I just closed a 4 unit, FHA last week with no hiccups.

Post: Building a Real Estate Investment Portfolio in Columbus

Mike MocekPosted
  • Property Manager / Licensed Realtor
  • Toledo/Columbus, OH
  • Posts 244
  • Votes 262

Welcome to investing!  Columbus is a great area for short-term rentals as long as the property is in the right area!  Feel free to reach out to me for any specific questions!

Post: Nashville or Toledo?

Mike MocekPosted
  • Property Manager / Licensed Realtor
  • Toledo/Columbus, OH
  • Posts 244
  • Votes 262

Hello @Tina Gionis You brought up some very valid points about Toledo and Nashville.  I personally, do not have experience in Nashville, but I do with Toledo. I invest in Cleveland, Akron and Tampa and to be honest, Akron (Secondary Market) is my best performing portfolio with a positive cash flow. Not every month is perfect, like any market, but the cost of the properties are a bit lower which gives you a better return.

But when you start talking about Toledo properties you will discover that the Toledo market is different from all others, not to mention, lower than average purchase prices on fixer uppers as compared to their retail value, Toledo can be full of promises. The need for quality residential and commercial space has become astonishing, making the right investment in Toledo, sometimes not easy, with so many different projects to choose from. Whether it is a Single-Family home, Multi-Family homes, mixed use or any other type of property, with such a high demand in Toledo, it rarely stays on the market for a great length of time.

Some reasons why so many people are flocking to invest in this cosmopolitan community would be:

- Low inflation

- One of the safest cities in Ohio

- Low cost of living

- Growing metropolitan

Toledo Investment Properties provide investors with a unique comprehensive platform that makes Toledo a logical place to invest in. The area is always expanding the business district as well as downtown, from Access to low cost regional talent, competitive real estate cost, strong work ethics and excellent facilities for sports, shopping, leisure and healthcare. All-In-All, Toledo Means Business! 

I just had a luncheon with the Women's Council of Realtors (Toledo Chapter) and the Mayor of Toledo and the amount of time and money that is going into the infrastructure of Toledo is outstanding!  I would be happy to share more information with you, and anyone, to discuss our city and where we are going.  The 90s and early 2000s hurt Toledo, we were not ready for population growth and people vacated the city.  With what the city has accomplished in the past 4 years and where we are going in the upcoming years, I suspect the population curve to change (It already is).  

Post: I live in California, how should I get started

Mike MocekPosted
  • Property Manager / Licensed Realtor
  • Toledo/Columbus, OH
  • Posts 244
  • Votes 262

Hey @Aaron P Englert I have a few clients that live in California and they do some house hacking.  They ended up moving their cash flow assets to the midwest, Toledo for example where I am.  Decent cash flow, the dollar stretches a little farther and the rental market is booming!

Post: Columbus Ohio Networking

Mike MocekPosted
  • Property Manager / Licensed Realtor
  • Toledo/Columbus, OH
  • Posts 244
  • Votes 262

Hello @Ignacio Linares I sent you a message :) @Sachin Amin I would love to connect with you as well!

Post: Market Analysis Tools

Mike MocekPosted
  • Property Manager / Licensed Realtor
  • Toledo/Columbus, OH
  • Posts 244
  • Votes 262

Great place to start @Andrew McElroy I personally started my investment journey in Cleveland and then Akron and Tampa.  I personally like the secondary markets, my clients find great success in Toledo.  I prefer my secondary market (Akron) but quite a few of my clients also go in Kansas City and Memphis.  I personally do not know these markets but they are popular around here.

Post: Misc. questions from new investor (Toledo, OH, multifam focused)

Mike MocekPosted
  • Property Manager / Licensed Realtor
  • Toledo/Columbus, OH
  • Posts 244
  • Votes 262

Hello @Josh Raikin These are phenomenal questions!  Bouncing off of what @Jackelyn Lee has already shared.  

A lot of time, when a property has been listed for a while, it can indicate multiple things.  Priced too high, rents are too low and investors do not want to gamble loosing a tenant right away, the leases are wonky or maybe there are bigger issues (Estate, Something wrong with the property etc).  I personally do not mind properties that have been on the market.  I have been able to snag a few under the listing price with a really nice competitive offer.  it is all about being creative in your offer and making sure that it is align with what you want, but also satisfying the sellers needs.

When you are looking at expenses, get a rent roll, 12 month maintenance history, any renovation background etc. If you are looking at multi-family properties, get the last couple utility bills or an average of the utility bills. Keep in mind, City of Toledo has Water/Sewer/Trash on the bill. Any client I have worked with is always blown away at the bill, but it really does encompass more than just the water. Personally, I factor 10% mgmt fee, 10% maintenance in my quick numbers. You will find that, every investor works numbers differently, some do CAPEX items and some do not. There are quite a few that look at the 1% rule as well to even think about a deal.

When I search on AREIS I put the bare minimum So for this I would search "4153" and "Wes" If there are multiple properties that are similar you can find the one you are looking for.  

Keep in mind the tools that you are provided are just tools, some of them will be effective and some are off.  Whenever I work with a client, I always go higher that way when it comes in lower, you are in the gold.  For example: That fence will cost $1,000 to replace, but in reality its only $600.  

Comps-  Your realtor should be providing you comp analysis, this is the best way for you to make a conscience decision on a deal.  Any type of property specific information should come from your agent, who obtains it from the listing side. 

I hope this helps!