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All Forum Posts by: Megan Greathouse

Megan Greathouse has started 78 posts and replied 387 times.

Post: Unit Needs Renovation -- kick out the tenant or let them stay??

Megan Greathouse
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Saint Louis, MO
  • Posts 397
  • Votes 469

Thanks, again, for everyone's feedback here. I ended up sending the 30-day notice yesterday... they were actually paying on the 15th each month, so I gave them until July 14th at 11:59pm. I took the open and honest approach, explaining this was not a reflection on them as tenants. I let them know we'd tried to work with the contractors (who they'd seen walk through their unit) on a way to renovate around them, but that ultimately the safest, most efficient option was to empty the unit so we could do the full renovation needed to get it up to our company's standards. I also told them we were here to help with their transition, and gave them some heads up that I hoped would clarify what was coming. This included:

  • Letting them know they won't have to worry about deep cleaning the interior of the unit, since we'll be going right into demo after they move out.
  • Reminding them they must ensure their unit is emptied of all their personal property, but offering the option to reach out if there are any items causing them grief during the moving process. I'll talk to my construction crew about whether they can handle these items during the demo process so that they don't have to.
  • Assuring them that, unless there is obvious, willful destruction of the unit, they will receive back their full security deposit of $750. There will not be withholdings for interior cleaning or minor maintenance items.
  • Offering to serve as a positive landlord reference as they search for their next home.
  • Offering assistance with their home search. While we don't currently have any vacant units, we have connections with multiple other property management companies who do!
  • Finally, I let them know they could have first shot at the unit pending an approved application. However, it will not be ready until the fall, and the rent will be up to the market rate of $1,400/month at that point.

I sent the notice of Non-Renewal of Lease via certified mail, as well as through the notice system in my property management portal. However, I sent all this detail above in a friendly "heads up" email beforehand. The tenant got back to me quickly, saying they were disappointed but understand that the unit needed work. She also said she'd appreciate help with the search and gave me their parameters (including a top end budget that would not have met the $1,400 we should get for this renovated unit). So, all in all, I think it went quite well and we're parting on good terms. Just thought some of you may be interested in hearing that. Thanks again for the great feedback, everyone!

Post: Unit Needs Renovation -- kick out the tenant or let them stay??

Megan Greathouse
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Saint Louis, MO
  • Posts 397
  • Votes 469

Thank you all so much for your straightforward feedback! It affirms the thoughts that have been swirling in my head.

@Michael Craig, I agree with your comment on being very open and honest with the current tenant. Thanks!

@Colleen F., I'd considered this, but the tenants have been there for 10 years and there's a lot of basics to work on that would be difficult to clean up with them there.

@Jacob Sampson, I think a full update of the unit will be less than $30K... so at an additional $650/month that's about a 26% return on my rehab investment.

@Nathan Gesner I hear you - I definitely did not buy this so I could run a charity! (If I get you the whiskey, could I deliver it in person? My husband really wants to visit Wyoming!)

@Theresa Harris, I like the right of first refusal idea, thank you! I agree they probably won't move in, but it softens the blow after all the time they've been there.

@Bob Prisco... your comment made me laugh! Thanks... it is pretty simple at the end of the day, isn't it? :)

Thanks again to everyone!

Post: Unit Needs Renovation -- kick out the tenant or let them stay??

Megan Greathouse
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Saint Louis, MO
  • Posts 397
  • Votes 469

Hello, fellow landlords! I bought a duplex in October that needed work. I inherited a tenant on one side and the other was vacant, so I went to work fixing and updating the vacant unit. It's now complete, and I was able to put tenants in at nearly double what my inherited tenants are paying!

Now I have the funds and the time to renovate the other unit... but how should I handle the tenants? They are on a month-to-month lease, so I could easily just give them notice to leave. But I could also do the "nice" thing and phase the renovations in such a way that gets the unit slowly up to date while also incrementally raising their rent. However, I know doing the updates with tenants in the unit could present liability issues. And I am not sure if they'd be able to go from the $750 they currently pay to the $1400 I know I can get once the unit is updated. (Plus, I already have one family who said they're interested in putting a deposit on this unit now and moving in after the updates are complete... they saw the other unit when it was listed for rent but weren't ready to move just yet.)

The inherited tenants have lived there quite a while and have kids, so I'm tempted to try the "nice" route... but I also know things will go smoother if the unit is empty. So I'm very torn. I'd appreciate your thoughts, BP friends!

Post: My First Flip... made a little, learned a lot!

Megan Greathouse
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Saint Louis, MO
  • Posts 397
  • Votes 469

Thanks, @John Krauklis. I would have loved to keep this as a rental, but the numbers just wouldn't have made sense given the amount of money we had to put in. But now I have my down payment back plus some to put into other rentals. Going forward, I'm hoping to continue growing my portfolio of small multifamilies using the BRRRR strategy!

How have you been? Still investing in St. Louis?

Post: Seeking real estate attorneys in St Louis, MO

Megan Greathouse
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Saint Louis, MO
  • Posts 397
  • Votes 469

John Banjak (Banjak & Associates) is fantastic!

Post: My First Flip... made a little, learned a lot!

Megan Greathouse
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Saint Louis, MO
  • Posts 397
  • Votes 469

@Carson Stone ... great recommendations. Thank you! I appreciate the insight. :)

Post: My First Flip... made a little, learned a lot!

Megan Greathouse
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Saint Louis, MO
  • Posts 397
  • Votes 469

I completed and sold my first flip just over a month ago. I made way less than I was hoping, but learned so much! Wanted to share...

PROPERTY:  The old, single-family house built in 1910 was located in a desirable area of St. Louis city near key landmarks like Forest Park, Washington University of St. Louis, and the Delmar Loop. The 2,500 sqft home had 6 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms, a fenced backyard, and a detached 2-car garage... plus plenty of historic charm!

PURCHASE:  This was an off-market deal. I found the property when another local investor mentioned a rental property he was looking to sell in a forum post. The rent he mentioned was quite high for the St. Louis area, which got my attention. I reached out, and learned that it was a large, single-family home being rented to Washington University students. After walking the property and running the numbers, I felt the location and size of the home offered multiple options -- I could continue renting it to students for good cash flow, or renovate it after the current students left and make a profit.

The layout was choppy and the finishes were nothing fancy, but I decided to move forward and, after a little negotiation, we settled on a price of $282,750 for a property that was rented for $3,120. We put 20% down and closed on the property in November 2017, with a lease that went through May 2018.

We immediately started cash flowing about $1,000/month. However, I soon learned that neighbors weren't thrilled about having a student rental on their street, and I was concerned about the prospect of frequent tenant turnover with students. The next best option was to renovate and sell, so I found a general contractor to begin planning the renovation as soon as the tenants left.

RENOVATION:

Due to the size, age, and amount of updates needed in the property, I knew the renovation would be big! After working through some numbers with my GC, we decided we'd need ~$100k to accomplish my vision for the property. I covered the renovation by refinancing the property with a local bank I'd been developing a relationship with. They gave me a 12-month, interest-only loan that covered my remaining principal plus the full renovation amount.

Renovations were pretty extensive, especially for my first flip. The work included:
-- Fully remodeling the kitchen and two existing bathrooms
-- Opening up the choppy main floor to eliminate a narrow hallway and expose the kitchen to the dining room
-- Adding back a half bath that had previously been eliminated from the main floor
-- Creating a master suite by taking a bedroom and turning it into a master closet and bathroom off the largest bedroom
-- New tile front porch, landscaping and garage doors
-- New paint, light fixtures, etc. throughout

The age of the house caused a couple budget issues during renovation, but our biggest roadblock to an efficient renovation was from the GC's end. Their company went through three different project leads during this renovation, and the turnover really blew up our timeline. What was supposed to be completed in 10 weeks ended up taking nearly 7 months, which meant a ton of additional holding costs. And instead of listing in late August/early September 2018, as originally planned, we finally listed the property for sale in chilly mid-January 2019.

Despite the contractor headaches, I loved the finished product! We turned a choppy, dated, 6 bed/2 bath house into a beautifully updated 5 bed/3.5 bath house. The house now had a more open-concept main floor, a spacious master suite, and updated kitchen and baths... while still retaining plenty of that 1910 charm!

FINAL NUMBERS:

We listed the finished product for $474k. After about 35 days on the market, we accepted an offer for $460K. While our construction company caused most of the delays that blew up our original timeline, the co-owner of the company is an agent who offered to sell the property without commission as a way to make up for that! Obviously a big relief, and proof that I was working with good people, even if their business was going through some turmoil. Here's how the final numbers worked out (rounded for ease of reading)...

Sale price:  $460,000

-- Purchase price:  $282,750 ($56,550 down payment)

-- Closing costs:  $3,000

-- Renovation:  $111,250

-- Holding costs:  $37,500 (includes interest-only loan payments, taxes, insurance, and utilities)

-- Sales costs:  $15,000 (buyer's agent commission, home warranty, etc.)

Net profit:  $10,500

My goal had been a profit of $30 - $40k. I fell WAY short! But I learned a ton without losing a penny, so I'll call it a win. And when you add in my $1,000 in cash flow for each of the first 6 months of ownership, I actually made $16,500 total over 17 months of ownership. That's an annualized return of about 19% on my original down payment of $56,550.

BEFORE PHOTOS(apologies for the sideways photos... couldn't figure out how to correct that!)

BEFORE exterior  Hunter green paint and concrete porch

  Closed-off kitchen

  Second-floor bathroom

  Third floor bathroom

AFTER PHOTOS:

  Two-tone exterior paint

  Tiled porch

  Open main floor

  Open, updated kitchen

  Peninsula facing the dining room

  Second floor bathroom

  Newly created master bathroom

  Third floor bathroom

I'd love some feedback... let what you think and what you'd have done differently. Any questions or tips for me? Thanks for reading!

Post: How Do You Manage Your Money?

Megan Greathouse
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Saint Louis, MO
  • Posts 397
  • Votes 469

@Eric Fitzgerald if you're interested in achieving early financial freedom, read Set For Life by Scott Trench and The Simple Path To Wealth by JL Collins... immediately! Then consider an anti-budget, a term that I believe Paula Pant of the Afford Anything blog and podcast coined. Decide on your savings rate (try for 50%+ if you can!), set that aside first, and then don't worry too much about how you spend the rest... as long as you aren't taking on bad debt. Good kuch!

Post: St. Louis REI Happy Hour

Megan Greathouse
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Saint Louis, MO
  • Posts 397
  • Votes 469

Our next meeting of the St. Louis REI Happy Hour, presented by True Title Company, will be on May 30th from 5 - 8pm in the 1942 Room of the Pat Connolly Tavern (in Dogtown).

This is a laid-back, networking-focused event that allows investors of all experience levels to engage with other like-minded individuals in the area. Connect, share, and learn with others who are active in the St. Louis real estate scene!

Thanks to all our sponsors, we will have appetizers, domestic beers and house wines available for our attendees. (Shout out to True Title Company, Banjak & Associates, Flat Branch Home Loans, Mogul Realty, and the Eric Brand Agency for Shelter Insurance!) Additional food and beverage options will also be available for purchase.

For more information about the event, our sponsors, etc. please visit stlreihappyhour.strikingly.com

- The St. Louis REI Happy Hour team

Megan Greathouse

@Andre Chambers

@Naveen C Reddy

@Donald S.

Post: St. Louis REI Happy Hour

Megan Greathouse
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Saint Louis, MO
  • Posts 397
  • Votes 469

@Jonathan P ketcherside ... great! Join us if you can.