My First Flip... made a little, learned a lot!

My First Flip... made a little, learned a lot!

Rental Property Investor · Saint Louis, MO · Member since 2017 · 397 posts · 469 votes

I completed and sold my first flip just over a month ago. I made way less than I was hoping, but learned so much! Wanted to share...

PROPERTY:  The old, single-family house built in 1910 was located in a desirable area of St. Louis city near key landmarks like Forest Park, Washington University of St. Louis, and the Delmar Loop. The 2,500 sqft home had 6 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms, a fenced backyard, and a detached 2-car garage... plus plenty of historic charm!

PURCHASE:  This was an off-market deal. I found the property when another local investor mentioned a rental property he was looking to sell in a forum post. The rent he mentioned was quite high for the St. Louis area, which got my attention. I reached out, and learned that it was a large, single-family home being rented to Washington University students. After walking the property and running the numbers, I felt the location and size of the home offered multiple options -- I could continue renting it to students for good cash flow, or renovate it after the current students left and make a profit.

The layout was choppy and the finishes were nothing fancy, but I decided to move forward and, after a little negotiation, we settled on a price of $282,750 for a property that was rented for $3,120. We put 20% down and closed on the property in November 2017, with a lease that went through May 2018.

We immediately started cash flowing about $1,000/month. However, I soon learned that neighbors weren't thrilled about having a student rental on their street, and I was concerned about the prospect of frequent tenant turnover with students. The next best option was to renovate and sell, so I found a general contractor to begin planning the renovation as soon as the tenants left.

RENOVATION:

Due to the size, age, and amount of updates needed in the property, I knew the renovation would be big! After working through some numbers with my GC, we decided we'd need ~$100k to accomplish my vision for the property. I covered the renovation by refinancing the property with a local bank I'd been developing a relationship with. They gave me a 12-month, interest-only loan that covered my remaining principal plus the full renovation amount.

Renovations were pretty extensive, especially for my first flip. The work included:
-- Fully remodeling the kitchen and two existing bathrooms
-- Opening up the choppy main floor to eliminate a narrow hallway and expose the kitchen to the dining room
-- Adding back a half bath that had previously been eliminated from the main floor
-- Creating a master suite by taking a bedroom and turning it into a master closet and bathroom off the largest bedroom
-- New tile front porch, landscaping and garage doors
-- New paint, light fixtures, etc. throughout

The age of the house caused a couple budget issues during renovation, but our biggest roadblock to an efficient renovation was from the GC's end. Their company went through three different project leads during this renovation, and the turnover really blew up our timeline. What was supposed to be completed in 10 weeks ended up taking nearly 7 months, which meant a ton of additional holding costs. And instead of listing in late August/early September 2018, as originally planned, we finally listed the property for sale in chilly mid-January 2019.

Despite the contractor headaches, I loved the finished product! We turned a choppy, dated, 6 bed/2 bath house into a beautifully updated 5 bed/3.5 bath house. The house now had a more open-concept main floor, a spacious master suite, and updated kitchen and baths... while still retaining plenty of that 1910 charm!

FINAL NUMBERS:

We listed the finished product for $474k. After about 35 days on the market, we accepted an offer for $460K. While our construction company caused most of the delays that blew up our original timeline, the co-owner of the company is an agent who offered to sell the property without commission as a way to make up for that! Obviously a big relief, and proof that I was working with good people, even if their business was going through some turmoil. Here's how the final numbers worked out (rounded for ease of reading)...

Sale price:  $460,000

-- Purchase price:  $282,750 ($56,550 down payment)

-- Closing costs:  $3,000

-- Renovation:  $111,250

-- Holding costs:  $37,500 (includes interest-only loan payments, taxes, insurance, and utilities)

-- Sales costs:  $15,000 (buyer's agent commission, home warranty, etc.)

Net profit:  $10,500

My goal had been a profit of $30 - $40k. I fell WAY short! But I learned a ton without losing a penny, so I'll call it a win. And when you add in my $1,000 in cash flow for each of the first 6 months of ownership, I actually made $16,500 total over 17 months of ownership. That's an annualized return of about 19% on my original down payment of $56,550.

BEFORE PHOTOS:  (apologies for the sideways photos... couldn't figure out how to correct that!)

BEFORE exterior  Hunter green paint and concrete porch

  Closed-off kitchen

  Second-floor bathroom

  Third floor bathroom

AFTER PHOTOS:

  Two-tone exterior paint

  Tiled porch

  Open main floor

  Open, updated kitchen

  Peninsula facing the dining room

  Second floor bathroom

  Newly created master bathroom

  Third floor bathroom

I'd love some feedback... let what you think and what you'd have done differently. Any questions or tips for me? Thanks for reading!

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Real Estate Broker · Denver, CO · Member since 2019 · 2 posts · 3 votes
7y

Great job on your first flip Megan! You didn't make as much as you wanted, but you also didn't loose any money which is awesome for your first project. The final product looks great! 

One thing I would recommend for your next flip is to find a GC that regularly works with flippers and is used to doing projects at a rapid pace. I work with a lot of first time investors who often run into the problem of finding a GC that charges retail prices and goes at their own pace. This almost always ends with exorbitant rehab costs and delayed project completion. A good GC can make or break your flip! 

A good way to find a GC that works with flippers is to ask local agents that work with investors who they would recommend. Also, check out RE investors groups on FB in your area and ask around. If you are looking in the Denver area, feel free to reach out to me, I work with lots of qualified GC's out here who solely work with flippers. I am happy to put you in contact. 

Best of luck moving forward! The first one is always the hardest! 

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  • Kent MoenPro Member
    Investor · Aurora, IL · Member since 2018 · 9 posts · 4 votes
    7y

    That sounds like an awesome first deal!!  You did not loose any money and the experience will do you great moving forward.  Way to go.

  • Rental Property Investor · San Diego, CA · Member since 2013 · 3k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    7y

    Awesome. Congrats. I love reading these 

  • Member since 2019 · 1 post · 1 vote
    7y

    Thanks for posting! Valuable insight as someone who has yet to flip a property.

  • Member since 2018 · 2 posts · 2 votes
    7y

    Congratulations Megan! The final product looks incredible. Although I am sorry to hear of the issues you had, it is a nice reminder for me personally that the numbers and timeline can be affected by the unexpected, such as GC turnover. Best of luck on your next project!

  • Rental Property Investor · Oklahoma City, OK · Member since 2015 · 66 posts · 21 votes
    7y

    Great project, @Megan Greathouse! Thanks for sharing. I like how you did the front porch - really unique. 

  • Real Estate Broker · Denver, CO · Member since 2019 · 2 posts · 3 votes
    7y

    Great job on your first flip Megan! You didn't make as much as you wanted, but you also didn't loose any money which is awesome for your first project. The final product looks great! 

    One thing I would recommend for your next flip is to find a GC that regularly works with flippers and is used to doing projects at a rapid pace. I work with a lot of first time investors who often run into the problem of finding a GC that charges retail prices and goes at their own pace. This almost always ends with exorbitant rehab costs and delayed project completion. A good GC can make or break your flip! 

    A good way to find a GC that works with flippers is to ask local agents that work with investors who they would recommend. Also, check out RE investors groups on FB in your area and ask around. If you are looking in the Denver area, feel free to reach out to me, I work with lots of qualified GC's out here who solely work with flippers. I am happy to put you in contact. 

    Best of luck moving forward! The first one is always the hardest! 

  • Megan GreathousePro Member
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    Rental Property Investor · Saint Louis, MO · Member since 2017 · 397 posts · 469 votes
    7y

    @Carson Stone ... great recommendations. Thank you! I appreciate the insight. :)

  • Wholesaler · Arnold, MO · Member since 2013 · 348 posts · 183 votes
    7y

    You made the very best of  bad situation I would say. The lessons learned made it very profitable I would say.

  • Realtor · Saint Louis, MO · Member since 2017 · 228 posts · 174 votes
    7y

    @Megan Greathouse this looks great.  Great job using smaller tiles in the bathroom, it really gives it a much less "flipped house" feel.

  • Rental Property Investor · Queens, NY · Member since 2018 · 54 posts · 10 votes
    7y

    great job. Now I am about to close my first investing property and it's two family house in NJ.I am going to rehab but no experience. I'm a little bit nervous. Hope my estimating is correct.

  • Denver, CO · Member since 2017 · 33 posts · 21 votes
    7y

    Nice work.  Glad you made something on it.   Flipping used to always work out.  Now the fix to rent looks good.  Especially here in Denver with 10% appreciation.  

    What’s next there?

  • Megan GreathousePro Member
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    Rental Property Investor · Saint Louis, MO · Member since 2017 · 397 posts · 469 votes
    7y

    Thanks, @John Krauklis. I would have loved to keep this as a rental, but the numbers just wouldn't have made sense given the amount of money we had to put in. But now I have my down payment back plus some to put into other rentals. Going forward, I'm hoping to continue growing my portfolio of small multifamilies using the BRRRR strategy!

    How have you been? Still investing in St. Louis?

  • Investor · Fort Lauderdale, FL · Member since 2014 · 24 posts · 20 votes
    7y

    Nice work! You definitely did a lot for your first flip, but it's great to see that you made it work and learned a lot along the way. 

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