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All Forum Posts by: Kieron Osullivan

Kieron Osullivan has started 0 posts and replied 44 times.

Quote from @Sam Shikiar:

Hey BP!

I’ve been using PropStream to build solid lists, but now I’m at a crossroads. After building your list, what’s worked better for you—huge lists (thousands of leads) or smaller, hyper-targeted lists (10-100 properties)?

For those working with larger lists, what’s your outbound process like? Are you using call software, VAs, or another method to manage outreach? Does going broad really work, or have you found that focusing on a smaller list with higher potential leads to better results?

Also, has anyone had more success with inbound marketing—using PPC, PPL, or other methods? If so, what’s been your experience there?

Would love to hear your thoughts!

Thanks!

Goo day Sam, whichever list type is used make sure that the leads are as close as possible to the filing date (new as possible), that you are accessing all available leads and that the leads are sourced directly  from the point of origin (recorders/courts/notices). This should at least drastically increase your connection and respnse rate. 


Unfortunately PS, PWire and to some extent PRadars data does not meet that quality. I have shown in below comparison PS data is 2 wks behind county records and and they are only providing 1/3 of the data which is available at least across 170 of the largest counties in TX, FL, CA(see my profile page for better explanation). 

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Links to the studies I done to prove PS data is behind by 2wks and only 1/3 what is provided by county records.

Please download to get full functionality in Excel. If you open it in new tab it is a lot harder to navigate.

Any issues with links please contact me

PS Preforeclosure Leads Data Is Only a Third of What Is Available from County Records

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vmGk8l_YIcUk5awBIu_D_sp5ifT...

PS Preforeclosure Leads Behind County Data Deep Dive Sept 2024

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RNXH3mBgJLq-uJRHJ6nH9OPVZFg...

What TX, CA, FL preforeclosure leads are available. Amounts and type (based on 10 yr scraped document counts).

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1oeUBp7gLOwWTSR4EU7JwatLu48a...

Quote from @Amanda Smith:
Quote from @Kieron Osullivan:
Quote from @Kieron Osullivan:
Quote from @Amanda Smith:

Hey Everett

I totally understand the challenge of finding the right lead generation software, especially when accuracy is key for wholesale deals. We’ve been using highly effective software that not only pulls clean and up-to-date data but also ensures we target motivated sellers with precision.

We have a software engineer who’s also an investor, so we’re mining high-quality, verified data for key filters like absentee owners, tax delinquents, vacant properties, and pre-foreclosures—exactly what you’re looking for. This gives us a major edge in reaching the right prospects.

Once we have the data, our team of trained cold callers reaches out to qualify and acquire leads—ensuring you’re working with real, motivated sellers instead of wasting time on outdated records.

If you need help setting up a system like this, I’d be happy to help you streamline your lead generation and acquisition process. Just let me know what you’re looking for, and we can discuss the best approach for your market!

Looking forward to connecting.

Very interesting. What software is that and what counties does it provide data for?

all counties and how often do you update records. Do you proide daily, weekly or monthly data?

It depends on how many agent is working on the data for how many hours.. and it depends on how many records we buy, sometimes it monthly, some times 2 times at month. Some times weekly. So it depends.


Sorry im confused you said you have an engineer investor who mines data? Is that a differnt source than the weekly data you buy? Thanks

Post: Wholesaling in the Early Stages

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Quote from @Debveda Berry-Moore:

Any suggestions about what types of properties to look at first for wholesaling?  I realize off-markets are best but which have you been more successful with: pre-foreclosures, probate properties, etc.  Would also like to look in markets that I don't live in.  Any advice for that?

"I realize off-markets are best but which have you been more successful
with: pre-foreclosures, probate properties, etc. Would also like to
look in markets that I don't live in. Any advice for that?"

They have different timescales, complexity and stages. If your new and want to close deals quickly, or quicker than other processes then focus on preforeclosure and in states which are non judicial foreclosure like TX, TN, GA, MI, AZ where the process from default occurring to foreclosure sale is short (some less than a month).

Whatever motivation you choose make sure that leads you buy/collect yourself are as new as possible (current week at least), from the source (county records/court cases/motices) and that you have access to as many of them as possible for the states/counties you are interested in buying property in.To meet this neccessary quality in leads do not use the prominant platforms as there leads are 2weeks old and they only provide 1/3 of what is available from the county records(see below for how i know this).

"Any suggestions about what types of properties to look at first for wholesaling?"

SFR is simplest start there.

Post: Interested in beginning

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Quote from @Jardin Gwin:

@Jared Smith 

Hi Jared,

Thanks for the welcome! Right now, I’m focused on being actively involved in real estate investing through wholesaling—specifically, finding deeply discounted distressed properties, getting them under contract, and assigning them to my network of end buyers.

I’ve been building relationships with agents and businesses that send me off-market and pre-foreclosure deals, which I then analyze and send to my buyers list. I want to scale this up and streamline the process further.

If you have any insights or recommendations for improving my strategy, I’d love to hear them!

Looking forward to connecting.

Best,

Jardin

Hi Jardin I would love to help you streamline and scale your lead flow side of the business. Where are your target marketss and where are you sourcing your deals from currently? How do they access the information they pass on to you? Are you happy with it? Best regards

reach out to individual investors and ask them what they want, whats there buy box, where, whats the highest they will pay then go and get leads for those properties.

The deepest discounts come from motivated sellers like foreclosures, probate, liens etc find those leads via county records, court cases and notices. Contact the owners after matching there properties with your buyers and help with there situation.

Post: Pre-Foreclosure Notices I Get In My Email

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Quote from @Rod Lambe:

Hi Chris,

I have not been active with Bigger Pockets for some time. It has been so long that I set my notices to receive Pre-Foreclosure Notices to around where I live in Seattle. But I have never real pursued any of the notices because I realized I don't know what to do once I receive them. I have no problem knocking on the homeowners door but I want to talk with someone in BiggerPockets that has experienced working with these type of leads. I do remember having to pay extra once you tap on the address of the Pre-Foreclosure home.

If you want me to send you a snapshot of the notices I receive give me your email address and I am happy to do that.

Thank you,

Rod


 First rthing to do is verify where the lead comes from and how old it is by searching for it in county records. Have you done this?

Post: Agent looking to start direct to seller for motivated sellers

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Quote from @Ian Kiefer:

As others mentioned already the best strategy to go for now wouldn't be the same in couple months due to the changes the market is facing on daily basis, and the changes you would go through yourself. From my experience working with lot of investors and realtors alike couple ways work with some and not with the others. But for that budget as a suggestion I would highly recommend starting with outsourcing your lead generation to a VAs company that would provide you with solid and transparent feedback at every step of the route so you can make the necessary adjustments when needed.
As for the list it totally depends on your exist strategy and buying box however there are some metrics you can't go wrong with like tired landlords or shutoff lists but make sure to use a reputable source of data since it's the most tricky part here. 
Yes cold calling still works and yield amazing results if used correctly. Saying that outta 5 years experience working with a team of 60+ callers. 

What requires your attention to not get bamboozled is the follow up with however handling your lead generation be it cold calling, PPC or whatever way you go for. 


Woud you say appointment and closing deals is significantly inceased the sooner you gt to the lead and make offers i.e being near the front of the queue to contact the leads? Thanks

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Quote from @Amanda Smith:

Hey Everett

I totally understand the challenge of finding the right lead generation software, especially when accuracy is key for wholesale deals. We’ve been using highly effective software that not only pulls clean and up-to-date data but also ensures we target motivated sellers with precision.

We have a software engineer who’s also an investor, so we’re mining high-quality, verified data for key filters like absentee owners, tax delinquents, vacant properties, and pre-foreclosures—exactly what you’re looking for. This gives us a major edge in reaching the right prospects.

Once we have the data, our team of trained cold callers reaches out to qualify and acquire leads—ensuring you’re working with real, motivated sellers instead of wasting time on outdated records.

If you need help setting up a system like this, I’d be happy to help you streamline your lead generation and acquisition process. Just let me know what you’re looking for, and we can discuss the best approach for your market!

Looking forward to connecting.

Very interesting. What software is that and what counties does it provide data for?

all counties and how often do you update records. Do you proide daily, weekly or monthly data?
Quote from @Amanda Smith:

Hey Everett

I totally understand the challenge of finding the right lead generation software, especially when accuracy is key for wholesale deals. We’ve been using highly effective software that not only pulls clean and up-to-date data but also ensures we target motivated sellers with precision.

We have a software engineer who’s also an investor, so we’re mining high-quality, verified data for key filters like absentee owners, tax delinquents, vacant properties, and pre-foreclosures—exactly what you’re looking for. This gives us a major edge in reaching the right prospects.

Once we have the data, our team of trained cold callers reaches out to qualify and acquire leads—ensuring you’re working with real, motivated sellers instead of wasting time on outdated records.

If you need help setting up a system like this, I’d be happy to help you streamline your lead generation and acquisition process. Just let me know what you’re looking for, and we can discuss the best approach for your market!

Looking forward to connecting.

Very interesting. What software is that and what counties does it provide data for?

Post: 🚨New Leads Generating System🚨

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Hire me to get your data from counties to be the first to access them (the leads that is they all come from county records and the like). Then you find people to buy them and make the difference. Become a good middleman. 

As I have said on multiple posts the investors using the prominent platforms like  propstream, propwire, propertyradar(although there data is allegedly up to date with specific documents which i can get in front of in other ways anyway)  are missing out on 70% (in some states like Georgia, Arkansas and 90% of NY its 100% because they dont provide them when I can) on the leads available whats available and getting it 2 wks later than the counties and 99.99% investors  dont know this.