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All Forum Posts by: Jared DeValk

Jared DeValk has started 7 posts and replied 74 times.

Post: What are your wholesaling ratios?

Jared DeValkPosted
  • Involved In Real Estate
  • Nashville, TN
  • Posts 75
  • Votes 14

In order:

1/7

1/20

1/4

My ratios are slightly skewed because I can spin a wholesale deal into a listing and still get paid from it.

Post: What are your wholesaling ratios?

Jared DeValkPosted
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  • Nashville, TN
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Every business needs to watch the "Numbers". I'm not talking about the Profit and Loss statement (although very important), I'm talking about your Closing Ratios. Wholesalers, please comment with your ratios for the following areas:

-How many leads will get you one appointment?

-How many appointments will get you one contract signed?

-How many contracts will get you a closed deal (meaning you successfully sold the property)?

As a business person, these ratios help you to:

A) Build a predictable business.

B) Plan your finances.

C) Determine which marketing methods are effective.

D) Determine if what you're saying to the sellers are effective.

Be honest! No "fishing stories" or embellishing. Examples of ratios are; 1 out 5, 20% or 1/5.

Thanks BP!

Post: Why do realtors consider Wholesaling illegal or unethical?

Jared DeValkPosted
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@Richard C., it's obvious that you do not want to have or you are incapable of having a constructive debate on this topic. Which ever the case may be, I'm done responding to your sarcasm and blatant ignorance on the topic, I have wholesale deals to work on. ;)

Post: Why do realtors consider Wholesaling illegal or unethical?

Jared DeValkPosted
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Originally posted by @Richard C.:
As to respect: I imagine that there are many on Biggerpockets with children or other loved ones who are developmentally delayed. You might want to think about that before taking umbrage at a trivially minor profanity and an irreverent joke.

From 1961-2010 the term "Mental Retardation" was a medical term. In 2010 it was replaced with "Intellectual Disability" which will be replaced by something else due to some complaints from liberals. To your point, "Intellectual Disability" is the correct term and it probably better describes the level of incompetence that I deal with when working with other Realtors.

I have done one wholesale deal and it closed 15 days after signing the contract. In 1 year of wholesaling, I made close to 50 offers and only one was accepted, you can figure out if that one closed or not. I only make offers that will close. That being said, the situation that you described does not happen when the wholesaler can negotiate the RIGHT price. Everything can be sold quickly if you can control two things; marketing and price.

Post: Why do realtors consider Wholesaling illegal or unethical?

Jared DeValkPosted
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  • Nashville, TN
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@Richard C., how are you taking advantage of the less sophisticated? In most cases, people need to sell quick and listing with a Realtor is not a quick way to sell. You have the listing process, showings, inspections, financing and a number of issues that can cause the process to take 2-3 months. With a wholesale deal, you can normally wrap it up in 30 days with a cash buyer. They are paying a premium for quick cash and for the connections that a wholesaler has. Regardless, my wholesale "premium" is close to what an agent would charge to sell it. Also, when I make an offer on a house I: #1, make them aware that I have other partners; #2, show them the process that I use for coming to my evaluation. The seller understands how and why I came to my evaluation and they accept the situation as it is.

I'm not going to screw anyone, but then again, I'm not in this business to make struggling homeowners wealthy. They have a problem and I'm offering a solution.

As for the believer part, well, I'd prefer that you not make any remarks like that and try to respect those of us on here that do believe in God.

Post: Why do realtors consider Wholesaling illegal or unethical?

Jared DeValkPosted
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Originally posted by @Mark Ferguson:
Interesting thread! I have heard agents called retarded, stupid, clueless and much more.
It is true agents do not have much knowledge about wholesaling. Why should they? It is not a recognized practice by real estate boards or commissions and agents do not need to know about wholesaling unless they get an offer from a wholesaler that looks suspect.

Why do agents that know what wholesaling from upon it? Not because they feel threatened that they may lose money, but because they have probably dealt with wholesalers that tried to screw people over or had no idea what they are doing.

There are many great wholesalers who know what they are doing and do it right, but there are also many that have no idea what they are doing and do act as agents. A real estate agent is licensed and has gone through a lot of education, background checks and even finger printing. A wholesaler has no requirements to be educated or have any idea what they are doing.

Don't be mad at agents who don't like wholesalers, be mad at other wholesalers who gave wholesalers a bad name in general. I would estimate the fall through rate on a wholesale deal is much higher than a regular buyer, a wholesaler has a much better chance of not closing because they don't have a buyer, don't have the money, can't figure out how to double close or valued a property poorly. The agents job is to get the most money for their seller, not to make sure the wholesaler gets a great deal on a house that he can imiedataly sell for more money.

I only said that some have some form of mental retardation. I can say that because I'm an agent that works with those that should not be allowed to consult with people on a purchase that would affect them for a major portion of their life. That being said, I think there are some great agents out there. My buddy here in Nashville made $400K as an agent in 2013 and he works 4 days a week and sometimes only 4-5 hours on those days. He's extremely bright when it comes to investing.

Also @Richard C., I'm not sure of the laws when it pertains to auto wholesaling, but I know you can do that when it comes to real estate. I had a client do a wholesale deal when I was an agent. He started a new construction build here in TN. 2 months into it, his company relocated him and he needed to get out of the contract. He sold the contract to another buyer for $100K more.

Regardless, I think you should be a little less condescending and rude to people on here. We're all in this together. Also, it's ironic that you mention being a believer right after dropping a "GD". You pretty much lost all credibility from my point-of-view at that point.

Post: Unethical real estate agent may be taking advantage of seller

Jared DeValkPosted
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To go along with what @Wayne Brooks said about commission, when you sign a listing agreement, it is between the seller and the listing agent (let's say 6% for this example). The Listing Agent (LA) then negotiates with Buyer's Agent (BA) for the buying agent's compensation. You can make the MLS listing part of the contract, but the BA's compensation is not the responsibility of the seller.

Post: Why do realtors consider Wholesaling illegal or unethical?

Jared DeValkPosted
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  • Nashville, TN
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The problem is that an RE Agent (which you can assume that most have some form of mental retardation) is going to look at wholesaling as engaging in real estate agent activities when you are not licensed as one. Also, they want to make sure that you will compensate them for their expertise in bringing you the cash buyers. We don't work for free.

Most managing brokers will not allow a RE agent to wholesale for the simple fact that you have all the benefits of being licensed and the managing broker does not get a piece of the transaction (some managing broker's get upto 50% of their agents' transactions). This is due to the fact that you are selling your interests and not someone else's interest in the property.

Although, if the seller is smart and you make considerably more that what a "reasonable" commission would be and that is not disclosed to the seller, he could have grounds to sue you or make the contract voidable. It's the fact that you are in using your position to have an unfair advantage.

In my professional opinion (I'm not an attorney, I'm just telling you what I will continue to do), as long as you're not making unreasonable spreads on your wholesale deals as an agent, you should be alright (unreasonable would be to get a $10,000 assignment fee/profit on a $30,000 wholesale deal).

I have a reciprocal relationship with a wholesaler where I will help in analyzing deals and providing comps if he will send some deals that need to be listed. It works well for us. The point us, no matter how dumb or ignorant Realtors are as a whole, we've been burned by wholesalers too many times and you need to figure out how to compensate an agent for their time, expenses and expertise.

Post: Unethical real estate agent may be taking advantage of seller

Jared DeValkPosted
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As far as taking advantage, what do you mean? They obviously are not operating in his best interest unless his best interest is to hide something from you, the buyer. In that case, I would contact the agents' managing broker. If they are the managing broker, report them to the Louisiana RE Commission or their association of Realtors. On top of contacting the appropriate authorities, I would not make an offer on the property until you get all of your questions answered, but it sounds like you already knew that.

Post: what now

Jared DeValkPosted
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  • Nashville, TN
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Originally posted by @Jasmine Wilkes:
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Have you considered Hard Money?

Here is the link to a US list of Hard Money Lenders by State:

http://www.biggerpockets.com/hardmoneylenders