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All Forum Posts by: Dave Grosse

Dave Grosse has started 35 posts and replied 194 times.

Post: Absentee Owner List

Dave GrossePosted
  • Wholesaler
  • Belleville, IL
  • Posts 206
  • Votes 44

Hey guys - I have access to my local MLS and through that (actually through Realist) I can get absentee owner lists for free! Pretty excited about that.

Question for the marketing pros out there - how long ago should the properties have been bought? I'm thinking at least 10 years ago would be best.

Thanks

Post: Excieted Got My First Lead From Postcard.

Dave GrossePosted
  • Wholesaler
  • Belleville, IL
  • Posts 206
  • Votes 44

Awesome! I agree that its best to not get yourself all worked up over it too - I felt the same way with my first wholesale deal.

And definitely make sure your offer is very low. You might be surprised what people will accept when they just want cash and to be done with the place. Also, when estimating repairs you'd do well to make a list laying out what s necessary for a full rehab for retail sale and another with just enough to be rent ready - that saved me on my first one and allowed me to make 10K on it.

Best of luck to you!

Post: Excieted Got My First Lead From Postcard.

Dave GrossePosted
  • Wholesaler
  • Belleville, IL
  • Posts 206
  • Votes 44

Post: Lease/Option

Dave GrossePosted
  • Wholesaler
  • Belleville, IL
  • Posts 206
  • Votes 44

as much as you can get is what you should expect - depends on how well you sell it and obviously how much cash the buyer has. I would sell it as a minimum of 5% of sales price - $7,500. i wouldn't be surprised if you could get 2x that amount tho.

I'm assuming that this will be applied to the purchase price as that's how its typically done.

Post: Logo opinion

Dave GrossePosted
  • Wholesaler
  • Belleville, IL
  • Posts 206
  • Votes 44

@Sean Gibson speaking strictly in terms of styling - I like it a lot. the colors compliment each other very nicely, very inviting.

I'm assuming you are already set on the police officer positioning, and i think played the right way it could be helpful, but from your question it doesn't sound like you want input on your marketing strategy so I'll leave it at that.

Good Luck!

Post: Bought a house for 2,000 cash.

Dave GrossePosted
  • Wholesaler
  • Belleville, IL
  • Posts 206
  • Votes 44

@Michael Quarles which postacard was it? Just curious - and sweet deal!

Post: First Wholesale Deal Closed - 10K Profit!!!

Dave GrossePosted
  • Wholesaler
  • Belleville, IL
  • Posts 206
  • Votes 44

Thanks all - looking forward to the next one, and the next one, and...

maybe one day I'll find myself on the BP podcast with Josh and Brandon!!

Post: First Wholesale Deal Closed - 10K Profit!!!

Dave GrossePosted
  • Wholesaler
  • Belleville, IL
  • Posts 206
  • Votes 44

Hey everyone just wanted to quickly share the story of our first successful wholesale deal - here goes!

My dad and I had tried our hand at short sales at the height of the crash a few years ago, and came away with exactly ZERO deals closed after a full year of hard work. We both left the game for a while, but still had the itch...

I decided that I would try investing again, this time focusing on Wholesaling lease options - almost gave up on that after 3 months of no success, BUT stayed with it, renewed my enthusiasm and within a month had flipped a Lease Option for $2,500. Not Bad...

After a few weeks of arguing with myself, I partnered back up with my dad now that I'd had some success. That was January of 2013...after a LOT of struggling to make the partnership work (arguing over what type of deals we wanted to do, who would do what, etc) we finally zeroed in on wholesaling and threw up some bandit signs. I think it was only around 25 signs in a city of 45,000 residents...

The next day we received at least two calls asking us to take the signs down, a nasty voicemail, and after taking a drive to see how many were still up, we were utterly discouraged to see that 90% had been removed. I really thought I was just going to give up and look for some other business to pursue.

Of course it would be later that day that I got a call from a lady who saw one of our signs and she had inherited a house that she wanted to sell. 3 bedroom, 1 bath, needed a lot of work to be comparable to recently sold stuff in the neighborhood. When we ran the comps, we were ready to pack it up again...She wanted $12,000 I think, the house needed $25,000 to be on par with the sold comps, which were selling, rehabbed, for just under $40K cash...

Then it kind of just hit us - we were't going to be selling to cash buyers who would rehab it and resell it themselves, our targets were the buy and hold guys. In that light, the place only needed about $5K in work to be rent ready. It wouldn't be real pretty, but in our area, a landlord could rent a 3 bedroom to a HUD tenant for $850/mo - easy money. So, we threw out an offer to her that seemed ridiculous to us - $5,000, noting all the work that needed to be done. She asked for $8,000 - we held firm at $5,000...we honestly figured we'd be lucky to sell it for $10,000.

She finally agreed to $5,000 and two weeks later we had it sold for $15,000, closed the week after that. Seller sold the house she didn't want, we made a sweet profit, and the end buyer got a killer cashflow property, and he's begging us for more!

I haven't been very active here in a while, but I want to thank Josh for creating Bigger Pockets, anyone who's ever lent advice to me in the past, as well as the countless members whose blog and forum posts I gained so much knowledge from!

Dave

Post: Wholesale Question

Dave GrossePosted
  • Wholesaler
  • Belleville, IL
  • Posts 206
  • Votes 44

being that this is a hypothetical discussion - maybe the seller is willing to pay the remaining $75K out of his pocket at closing...but as Tim noted, hypothetical doesn't pay.

Post: Best way to pay yourself?

Dave GrossePosted
  • Wholesaler
  • Belleville, IL
  • Posts 206
  • Votes 44

Thanks again @Steven Hamilton II - i'm actually going to a local cpa today here in my town who has come recommended from other investors near men. I'd like to speak to you as well, although not sure if I could afford you! i will be giving you a call either today or monday.