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All Forum Posts by: Henry Clark

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Post: Self storage- Valuation and Buy/Sell concepts

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Sorry for the choppy view.  Couldn't attach actual spreadsheets.  Please change and make it yours.  Improve on it.

Post: Self storage- Valuation and Buy/Sell concepts

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Valuation/Broker/Buy- Sell discussion points.

This is an example, for discussion only.


Three primary valuation methods:
a. Comparison to past sales in the area.
b. Cost approach
c. Revenue stream






'A. Comparison to past sales in the area.

Your probably not going through a Sales Broker and are making a private sale. You will do this on your own. Look at Loopnet for current and prior storage locations sold that are similar.


'B. Cost approach

Calculate the cost to build. Keep in mind if this is an old property you may have refurbishment costs to upgrade.


'C. Revenue Stream

Again, your probably an individual investor or owner, buying and selling so I am going to keep this simple. Forget time value of money, net present value, effective tax rate, etc.; these are important, but your not going to work through them.

In our example we are showing Cash flow of $139,000. I use payback as my financial goal. So in the example on Phase 1, we have a payback of 14.0 years. This is outside of my target of 8 to 12 years. But I’m okay with that because the next phase will average it out. This concept also applies when your buying a location, if there is extra land and the market can take the extra units or do Vehicle storage, then you can use this to work your numbers.




Should you use a Sales Broker?

Everything I have said above, says your not using one.



If your selling how much of your personal wealth is tied into this location? How sharp are you with spreadsheets, cost/revenue analysis, market analysis, etc.



Are you selling without a broker to avoid the commission? Because your selling to a friend? Know the market?



How many potential buyers can you bring to the table at one time, to get the best price? What is the size of your location 25/50/100/200/400/etc. Drive up or controlled climate?



'7% commission. Are you good enough and well rounded to accomplish the above.

I’m not selling Sales Brokers, I hate paying commissions on something I built myself.

On my small locations 50 to 150, I will probably sell myself since they are in small towns. I will probably sell to a local person. The larger city/larger locations, I will probably go through a broker, who can bring the most buyers to the table.




Terms- Buy or sell discussion points.

Not going into depth on these. You should be able to find other discussions.

a. Owner financing. Concerns- insurance, property tax, facilities upkeep, late payment recourse, etc.

b. Scenario- They wanted $225k, I was only willing to go to $200k. The $225k was a number they had stuck in their head. Agreed to pay them $150k; and then $75k 5 years later with no interest. What advantage?

c. Buy the business or the assets? Check with your tax guy. Why?

d. If you buy the assets, talk with your tax guy on the following. Break out purchase price by asset type: a. security system, b. electric, c. Roads, d. fence, e. building, etc. Why?

e. Slice a non compete agreement portion out of the Sales price. Why?

f. 1031, both ways. You might ask for a $20,000 fee, to hold the property for a certain sales date. Just like a deposit. Why?

Post: Self storage- Valuation and Buy/Sell concepts

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PL/Cash flow estimate

This is an example, for discussion only.




Adjust to local estimates














Green change or fill in.


Combination PL/Cash flow




Intentionally leaving out Depreciation and Taxes



Annual
Notes:

Revenue:




Gross $354,240
@ 90%, after rent up period

Late fees $0
as needed



$354,240








Electricity $2,400



Water $400



Sewer $300



Grass $1,000



snow removal

as needed

manager

as needed, I do self service by phone; do you pay yourself.

maintenance $3,000



Insurance $3,000
Property/Liability

Property Tax $25,000
use local

Loan P/I $120,000
Get your bank to do 20 year amort, adjust based on how much equity you have to put in 10%/15/25/40/etc.

Depreciation

left blank for Cash analysis



















Cash out
$155,100














Pre tax
$199,140








Tax
$59,742 as needed, adjust Loan P/I for Depreciation expense







Net cash
$139,398


































Payback:








Total Cost:
$2,170,933








Less Equity infusion:
$217,093
10/15/25/40%






Net loan position
$1,953,839








Annual cash flow
$139,398








Payback years:
14.0














Financial Objectives:




Change calc/terminology etc to your objectives. Example: cap rate, etc.










I normally shoot for an 8 to 12 year payback, with a 20 year loan amortization.




This is based on the location/deal on hand. Any improvements in performance on top of that will be gravy.




My 8 to 12 objective will be met once Phase 2 is completed, versus the 14.0 years shown above.










Phase 2 is where you make your real money. I always have phase 1 pay off




the land, fence, Electrical, sewer, grading, etc.










How many phases or units should you build to start?




You can always build more buildings. I always shoot for 65% occupancy covers all initial costs for Phase1.




In this example, I would probably only build the first 15/30/40 buildings.




Post: Self storage- Valuation and Buy/Sell concepts

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Revenue calc and Concrete estimate;

Green change or fill in info















Not using 10’s for ease, definitely put in.






Rental Revenue:





# units Unit Size Rental rate months Gross


205 15 80 12 196800


164 20 100 12 196800



10 60 12







393600












@ 90% occupancy
0.9












@ 90% occupancy
354240



































Building installed cost





Units Avg cost





205 3200

656000


164 3200

524800












Average total cost
1180800



























Feet****************************************

Yards****************************************

Cubic Yards
Concrete Estimate at 6 inches:

6 inches



Turn around 275 50 0.5 91.67 16.67 .17 254.63
Turn around 275 50 0.5 91.67 16.67 .17 254.63
Entrance 25 50 0.5 8.33 16.67 .17 23.15
Driveways 410 25 0.5 136.67 8.33 .17 189.81
Driveways 410 25 0.5 136.67 8.33 .17 189.81
Driveways 410 25 0.5 136.67 8.33 .17 189.81
Driveways 410 25 0.5 136.67 8.33 .17 189.81
Driveways 410 25 0.5 136.67 8.33 .17 189.81













Cubic yards roads
1481.48



















Get a local Quote:
Cost framed/poured/sawn
456.389452332657













Driveway costs
$676,133

Post: Self storage- Valuation and Buy/Sell concepts

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This is a little better.

Post: Self storage- Valuation and Buy/Sell concepts

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Spreadsheet wouldn't post so below is the view.

Layout:

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Post: Self storage- Valuation and Buy/Sell concepts

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At different times I have noted individuals looking for "that" template.  Take the following concepts and adapt to your needs.  Remember the next person, always makes it better.

Please take the attached as a template and not a specific project or valuation.  Improve it and make it your own.  This is geared to the individual investor and not corporate or multi state groups, who will have their own finance/procurement teams.

There are several tabs and concepts:

1.  Cost projection, 2.  Site layout, 3.  Revenue projection, 4.  PL/Cash flow projection, 5.  Valuation/Brokers/Buy-Sell discussion points.

Well spreadsheet won't post.  Will do images.

Note: This is written for an individual owner or investor. The Big organizations already have their templates and methods. And will be doing Climate controlled.


This is an example, for discussion only.






A. Project Cost estimate from ground up.


B. P/L revenue stream


C. Valuation Buy/Sell


Adjust all of the above to your local market and situation.







A. Self Storage Project Worksheet


Drive up Storage








Notes:
Land $200,000
4 acres at $50,000/acre
Survey $7,000
Site, elevation and building layout
Fence $30,000
Black chainlink
Gate system $25,000
Automated rolling 20ft
Engineer

if needed; $30,000 to $60,000
Dirt work $15,000
Slight roll, no dirt brought on site
Building demo

if needed, $15,000 to $60,000
Electrical- site $7,000
building lighting and office if needed, LED.
Electric poles

if needed; $2,000 per pole. First is free if nearby.
Security $10,000

Storm drains

if needed; $50,000 to $150,000
Water

if needed; $5,000 just plumbing
Water line

?? if an extension could be $10,000 up to $150,000
Fire Hydrant

if needed, $3,000
Sewer

if needed: $5,000 plumbing
Sewer Line

if needed; $10,000 up to ????




Buildings $1,180,800
Phase 1 2 acres
Office

if needed, plain storage unit 20x30; $25,000 insulated.
Office setup

if needed, $5,000- computers, printers, HVAC, frig, cabinets, etc
Footings

if needed. ??????
Roads


Gravel

if needed, ?????
Asphalt

if needed, ?????
Concrete $676,133
6 inch Cubic yards, framed, poured, sawn,
Retention Pond

if needed, part of dirt work cost, less land for buildings
Landscaping $5,000
I like trees and bushes. Less sterile
Road Sign $15,000
For highway 55mph billboard sign












Total $2,170,933

Post: Renting a back lot for commercial storage

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@Sarah.  Recommend you don't rent out the back lot to "Non-tenants", unless it is massive.  Do charge your tenants for their use.  By having the back lot available for your potential building renters, you expand the number and type of building renters.  Compare your "potential" warehouse renters versus their potential need for the lot storage.  Example:  If you plan to rent to a landscaper or plumber, they will want outside storage also.  Just charge them more.

Post: Storage unit vacancy rate

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For financing purposes I always use 90% occupancy.  Get interest only payment to 65% occupancy or 18 months.

Need to analyze your market before you use 90%.  Idaho Falls should have about 3,400 unit market based on population.  Metro 7,800.  I would go count units and sizes for a couple weekends.  Or more specifically check your specific area out.

I always use Sparefoot when analyzing a market to start with.  Do Sparefoot, Idaho Falls.  Select the 10 x15 size.  Then switch to map setting.  Look for the "holes" in the market compared to the population.  

I note two things.  Either most of the facilities up there don't use Sparefoot, or you have a big underserved market.  Also I don't note any of the big REITS.  If this is the case, you need to push hard the next 5 years and build about 10 locations of 300 each.  Not a mega one.  Check all of this with your feet on the ground.  It looks like unusually fresh territory.

Post: Self Storage- Marketing New Location startup

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One key take away from all of the above.  Most of the REITS and Sparefoot have to strong of an SEO presence for you to battle.  And they have been in place longer.  Also, even if you were the number 1 listing, your drowned out by the 6 to 10 pages of listings.  Recommend you go with Map placement and youtube placements. These pictures standout from the 6 to 10 pages of listings.

I'm not a big online person.  Just started about 4 months ago.  One of you other Tech/Marketing people please jump into the discussion.  Thanks.