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All Forum Posts by: Henry Clark

Henry Clark has started 201 posts and replied 3878 times.

Post: Experience building a flex warehouse?

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Check the following:

a.  See if the utilities are directly in front of your property.  Water, Sewer, electric.  I paid $130,000 for water because the fire hydrant I saw was a private hydrant  and I couldn't use.  Had to run water a quarter mile away.

b.  Look around the area and see if new locations are putting in Storm ponds.  Took 1/3 acre out.

c.  Look and see if they have storm drains  $110,000 for mine on 4 acres.

d.  We are doing a 4 acre contractor building site.  Electric rough estimate is $300,000 to get to panels.  And then wire.  This does not include the hookup cost at the front of the property, just the buildings.

e.  Insulation.  $???,???  Spray foam, roof, side walls, etc.

f.  Just the driveway for our Self Storage, 7 inch concrete, 25 foot wide by 1700 ft, $450,000.  Use this and convert to a sq ft cost for your estimates.

g.  Slab will be about the same.  A lot more for frost free footings and rebar.

h.  Just plumbing for bathrooms and walling off will be $10,000 minimum per unit.

i.  Security fence?  Would be $40,000 with roll gate, if automated.

j.  Exterior lighting?

k.  Gutters?

l.  Landscaping- see what the development group will require and what you will want, even if engineering fabric with rocks on top. $15,000

m.  Engineering costs.  Either you will buy a pre-engineered building and still need the site engineered for permitting; or you will pay for both building and site engineering.  $50,000

n.  Floor drains; no, middle, front outside.

o.  Go halfsies on HVAC, they leave if they move out.

 p.  Same on office space, as O above. 

Keep going with your project, but make a spreadsheet and lay out each of these items.  Make sure you get hard numbers for the big numbers and softer numbers for the small ones.  Key thing is chop this project up and really nail down the big dollars.

If first time out, you might pay an extra 10% for a General contractor.

 Start small and Make Your Big Mistakes Early.

Post: Advice For Beginners

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Putting myself back in your shoes and lifestyle at 19.

a.  How is your housing costs?  Try an RV court.  Look for an RV to purchase and also check with the owners for Rent free, if you assist on a year round basis, that fits your schedule.  Sweat equity.

b.  If its close and the parking is big enough.  Sell your car and drive the RV to work or get a motorcycle.  Austin is a lot drier and better weather than up north.

c.  When your ready, sell the RV and then move up to house hacking.  Unless you already have enough for the downpayment for a house.

d. Before your do any of the above, call my brother, he's in LaVernia.  Your in Texas, the greatest place for Sheriff sales, and off list property sales.  Take advantage of this opportunity.  Buy a house for $10,000 taxes owed, straight up, no waiting, no lien exposure and fix it up.  Sale and move to the next tax sale house.  If it is land and no house, buy an RV, clean the property up and/or subdivide and sale.

Most importantly go swimming at Barton Springs or Hippy Hollow and enjoy being there.  Drive down to Port Aransas for Spring break and enjoy yourself.  Sleep on the beach.  Go flounder gigging at night.  Get someone to teach you how to do beer butt chicken barbecue.  Go on your life time search for the greatest tamale.  It has to have lard and not vegetable oil. Drive out into the countryside and stop at a large rancher's house.  Offer to come out and help on some weekends, so you can hunt deer and hogs on his property.  Most importantly take time in the spring to enjoy the bluebonnets along the highway.

Post: Storage Facility Purchase - 10% LTV Financing Requested

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You mentioned transitioning. I would look in Oregon, near you. If you have plenty of equity built up and are wanting to transition, I would do a 1031 exchange out of SFR into Storage. Otherwise your only leveraging the bank collateral % of the value, say 70% versus 100%. Pick your worst SFR or the one you don't expect to appreciate further and do 1031.

Look on Loopnet self storage as an example.  There are 3 storage locations for sale, they are all priced high, but hey you negotiate.  Personally I would look at the Vale Oregon location and vet it.  a.  Extra land, b.  Largest and 99% occupied, then you control rent rates in town., c.  Buy the other locations out., d.  Increase rent rates

Post: Storage Facility Purchase - 10% LTV Financing Requested

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Don't talk with SBA.  You will go through a bank that handles SBA loans.  Pick a bank that is mid size.  You would like your loan officer to grow with your business.  If you pick a large National bank, that person will be gone in 2 years.

Good luck.

Post: Starting out- Wichita area Storage Units

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Wichita has some heavy hitters already.  But it looks like there is room for growth, but you will need to be strategic.  Looks like the market can handle about 32,000 units.  Recommend you build.  Most of the big hitters you won't be able to buy out.  The others will be in the $1mm to $2mm range if they have 200 units or more.  Do the following:

1.  Google- Wichita Self Storage-  Look on the map.  Look for "holes" where there is no storage.  Then look for zoning within that area that allows storage.  2 acre minimum.  Also do Sparefoot and switch to the map to see competitors and prices.

2.  Go against the grain.  Don't do traditional storage, or do just a little.  For example, google Loopnet Wichita Industrial.  Look at the 4035 South Broadway property as an example.

a.  I would check if you can do Cargo Containers for storage.  Cheaper, add as you need, no property tax, quicker payback.  Lower price point competition. Also for taxes you can write them off in year one.

b.  Also build Contractor units for plumbers, electricians, landscaping.  You would have plenty of land, which these folks like for parking and outside storage and turning.

c.  RV/Boat storage.

d.  Check on any epa issues, looks like a current or former car salvage yard.

If your looking for smaller investments, I would check out every storage location from your place south of Wichita, up to Wichita. 

Post: Experience building a flex warehouse?

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Check out your infrastructure costs:

1.  Sewer/water/fire hydrants

2.  Storm sewer. Storm retention pond needs.

3.  Setbacks

4.  Electrical hookups

5.  Footing, road requirements, and parking requirements.

Post: Storage Facility Purchase - 10% LTV Financing Requested

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1.  Do a 10% down with an SBA loan.  Get 20 to 25 year terms with current interest around 2.??%.

2.  I would not use any cash. Have the bank collateralize one of the houses for the 10% ($45k).

3. If there is another Covid government funding, you may get the 6 month free on the SBA side of the P/I.

4.  Find a bank that does Storage or Apartment buildings.

5..  Evaluate any improvements or expansions you want to do now and incorporate them into the loan.  Ask the bank you want a construction loan with interest only to make these happen.  Prior to rolling into the SBA loan.  That way you don't have to foot the repairs or expansions.

6. If you haven't closed yet, talk with your Tax person.  Do an Asset purchase versus buying the business.  Break out the roads, security, lighting, signs, etc.  Possibly do a non compete agreement with the owner.  Basically move as much away from Land and building as possible, so you can get a year one write off.  Carry forward loss if you can't use it this year.

See our Self service youtube on the website below.  Try to get away from an onsite manager.  You will still need someone to help you manage locally.  

Operations:

a.  Insurance- call Ponderosa insurance, part of Uhaul.  They have storage specific coverage.  Unless you already have insurance.  $450k coverage will probably cost around $1,500.  Over insure, its really cheap  $600k coverage will be around $1,700.  You want to cover clean up costs also and lost rent.

b.  Get on Sparefoot for advertising.

c.  If manual move to internet and web based storage software.  We use Web selfstorage with Uhaul for $44.95 per month.  Can see anywhere in the world.  Check out Storedge, I am not recommending them, but one of our local competitors used them, and got ranked real high and fast on Google. They have an SEO part of their business.

d.  Security- get web connection so you can see your operations and get notifications.  Example:  Anyone opens the door with the code, I get a text.  If someone breaks in, I get a phone call.  Have your security person check out Uniview systems.  They have motion sensors which you can dial up or down for size.  They have line sensors if you break a plane.  These events are color coded on the timeline to help you find activity.  Have them tie you in, so you can look at the cameras either on your cell or computer.

e.  Get a battery and surge protector unit for your computer and nvr system.

Good luck, great investment.

Post: Self Storage Rewards- Belize adventure

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Post: Self Storage Rewards- Belize adventure

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Thanks @Anthony Burns; for adding different perspective than just my set of eyes.  Went to Punta Gorda down in the South/East, but reminded me of my home state of Louisiana, mud and shell.  Probably off the coast is better.  I will check it out. 

Folks if you note the picture above, it shows you a good trick to do, if you end up buying beach front and want more beach.  Note which way the natural tide runs along the beach and then put a wall or structure in the water running out into the ocean a ways.  It will fill in with sand on the down side and make you a permanent beach.

I've discussed Why? Where? When?   Now I will talk about our journey and what we were looking for.  So this post will narrow down to our experience and interests.

Once my wife decided she was not interested at this moment making a large investment for the Beachfront property, I started looking for our inland property.  Won't go through my background, but wanted both a great place, great deal, business opportunity and a value proposition for the future.

Since we only want to be Snow birds during January thru April for 2 to 3 weeks at a time, we were not looking for a hands on proposition.

I'm more leaning towards nature and not Tourism.

Looked at buying/building a house.  Different businesses, more as a hobby.  Decided whatever we do, don't make money on the local Belizeans since they don't have enough money.

Understanding the dynamics that the Dollar is King going in.  That there will not be enough Buyers when we sell, looked at the following types of investments.  Also you must have a Caretaker, otherwise your things or business will get stolen.

a.  Teak Tree plantation- We ended up doing a Teak Tree plantation.  Planted 10,000 trees on 28 acres.  This is a 25 year investment.  Good thing about Teak trees, is no one will want to steal them until about year 20.  Also the market is India and China, thus not a local market.  Most of the work is in years 1 thru 5 with weeding and trimming. Logging, then cutting into lumber or squares.  Living in Louisiana and my dad once being a logger, I can do all of these, along with cheap local help.

b.  Goats- I don't like spreading myself thin, but I have raised goats before.  No one in Belize likes to eat goat.  Under the British regime they learned to eat Sheep.  Which is strange to me, since all Spanish cultures like goat.  Thus the market would be the US.  A good thing about Goats and Belize is all of the unowned or unmanaged forest and brush.  Goats prefer this to grass and don't get as many worms as on grass.  Cheap labor to herd and manage.  Biggest issue is meeting USDA standards and certification.  Otherwise will be fresher and cheaper than imports from Australia.

c.  Ducks- Same as goats.  Both Ducks and eggs would be marketed in the US.  Same US standards issues.

d. Self Storage- actually a good demand for Expats coming and going.  Almost non-existent competition.  But not interested.

e.  Rental House Development- Expats or Locals.  I have found a great contractor and his family.  Have partnered with him to buy one lot, and starting a second lot.  I have explained to him, what sounds crazy.  Money is easy and plentiful (they are poor relative to US), but local, trustworthy contractors are rare.  He owns the upper hand.  Explained to him, I'll do the financing and he will maintain the construction and rental.  He is used to paying himself day wages, but I have explained he needs to own the properties and rent, to get the value of his efforts.  Develop two different house and business models.  Local- build to around $40,000 and rent at $250 to $350.  Expat- build around $100,000 and do long term rental for $1,000.  Key is not the rental market, which is in great demand; but the cost and building side.  Since he is local, he can find the deals and make them.  For the same lot, he can get for $3,000; it would cost me $30,000.  He also controls the Building costs and timing.  Trust- has to be built.  Thus we have started small.  I bought him a portable cement mixer for $2,500 to use on my house since he would have to rent for $150 per day.  He will pay me back $1,800 which he will earn either renting it out, which he has, or charging his other clients.  Same deal with tamper, scaffolds, power washer, lawn mower.  Working out good so far.

f.  Tilapia farming- just for fun.

g.  Another market, just because my brother and I stayed at one are Tiny Houses.  A good portion of the tourists are from Europe and these folks tend to vacation different than US tourists.  They tend to do Hostels, and spend more money on Travel versus lodging.  Most of us are always trying to do bigger and better, but there is a solid market for less.

So we looked at about 30 properties and some existing Teak plantations.  I started to put a couple of options together.

1.  Buy an existing Teak plantation on the cheap.  Found one great deal, but it is too far off the beaten track.  Wouldn't get any enjoyment living there.  Expat moving home.  But would pay itself off in 5 years.

2.  Bare ground.  Always look for a property that has been on the market for a while and where its an expat who has gone home.  They are ready to sell and have finally gotten past, there are not that many buyers.

3.  Look for ground that will grow in value, because it is special.  Either Electricity and water coming your way.  Near Rivers or has streams on it.  Existing trees.  Good location relative to services.

 4.  The median age for Belizeans is around 25 years.  US Baby boomers are on the move.  Both of these factors will create a market in Belize.

5.  Near towns or entertainment.

The property we ended up buying had been on the market for 15 years.  Price was cut in half.  Has the Belize River on the front property line and Iguana creek on the other property line.  The other sides are pasture.  Great location between San Ignacio/Santa Elena and Belmopan.  Two miles away from Spanish Lookout, which is the industrial  and main supply town for the country. 

Post: Beginning from scratch

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Glad to help.  My son is 19 and in college.  Would gladly have him swap with your position any day of the week.

In 1 year I won't be on this forum; working on a different life style change and investment overseas in Belize. Once you build up about $50,000 to $100,000 cash; track me down if your still interested in REI. I mainly do Self Storage. Keep our https address below. You can read my posts, but will be glad to guide you if you go down that track. Can be anywhere in the US.