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All Forum Posts by: Henry Clark

Henry Clark has started 195 posts and replied 3755 times.

Post: Where do you see the path of progress in San Antonio, TX?

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La Vernia, Sequin, Floresville.

Try to stay in LaVernia school district.

Post: Industrial/Flex Property- Day in the Life, Building a Flex Prop

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Received all City Subdivision paperwork and Subdivision is now recorded. Documents to bank to work with SBA to get them to release excess collateral. Based on Appraisals they have about $1,080k collateral, and they only need $200k.

Post: How to use these low-interest rates to our advantage?

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@Scotty Gifford

Returns.  I look at cash flow versus returns.  Our project targets are 25 year term loan with a cashflow (principal/interest/expenses) payback of 8 to 12 years.  Most banks have a 5 year loan % restructure.  We get a maximum rate increase rider.  The only way we get "caught" is if interest rates go to 9% and we are not more than 6 years into a deal.

Answer to your original question of moving up in house and debt; to me is the back end pluses and minuses and if they fit your risk reward.

Post: Self Storage Market Cycle

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 @Petro B.

I'm going to go with you are in Philadelphia proper.  Take all of the info above which is good, and apply it as follows.  Your going to get "dirty" and get into the Micro the folks above are discussing.

Pull up Google and type in "Self Storage Philadelphia pa".  Then click on the "Map".  This is not all storage sites but is a true reflection of the market.  As you move around on the map, to new areas, more storage will pop up.  Do the same thing using "Sparefoot" and use their map.

Now a couple things to note, that aren't obvious.

a.  A lot of the locations are in the same location due to easy zoning.  Not customer service.

b.  A lot of locations are along major highways, not in the neighborhoods.

c.  Now start looking at the areas with many cross streets, this is where your population is. 

d.  Then look at the "holes" where you see very few storage locations if any.  This is due to zoning and availability/price of land.

e.  In a highly dense population like Philadelphia your competition is only within 1 to 3 miles.  If that area has 50,000 people in it, it needs roughly 3,000 storage units, minimum.  You just have to drive around and count the units.  If there are 1,000 then build or buy; if there are 4,000 look somewhere else.

f.  Lets say you see a location that has 5 National or Large local, climate controlled units all within 3 miles.  I would love to build there.  Even if they are all at 75% occupancy.  I'm pointing out there are two markets in the same area.  Say a 10 x 15 unit for $200 climate controlled.  10 x15 unit for $130 drive up.   The drive up will win hands down.  There are more people at the $130 market and who want to do drive up; versus buggy/elevator/hallway.  The key is land availability/zoning/price.

g.  Business approach.  Most big box companies rely on an onsite manager.  This forces them to stay at a minimum size location and also reduces their break even point and increases their unit price points.  Like all big companies/industries you have two objectives in life.  1.  Grow sales every year XX%., 2.  Grow profitability % every year x% points.  This puts a premium on making deals and expansion.  Although these people are very smart, this pressure can make some stupid decisions.  Even if all of their spreadsheets and market analysis are correct, 5 companies may pick the same local market in the same years and build, not factoring each other in.  Don't play their business approach.  They are playing averages over maybe 100's locations, you might only have one.  Also they have greater SEO power than you ever will.

Takeaways:

1.  As mentioned several times above, your market is micro.

2.  Not only is your market micro, it is really micro within 1 to 3 miles in major cities.

3.  Stupid Money.  Finding a spot or evaluating a location for sale.  Do a stupid money test.  Assume you are trying to build in that 3 mile area.  How hard is it to find land zoned, rezone, large enough, valued correctly, to hilly, rivers divide your territory, etc.  The harder it is to find a spot, the more valuable your spot becomes.  Stupid Money can't just walk in.

4.  You mentioned syndication and passive income.  Looks like you want to invest in the stock market approach, put your money down and have someone else do the work.  Here's the rub.  Do you want a AAA or B investment?  For the AAA investment in storage you will need to do 6 hours hands on work per week at your storage location.  You might have to do a lot of work up front developing; and go through a learning process.  For the B investment you just read your quarterly report.

5.  Where is the self storage industry going.  There is only one Casket maker in the US.  There used to be about 15,000.  Economy of scale, distribution and marketing got rid of all the rest.  The same thing will apply to Self Storage.  Remember there are two markets in Self Storage, the above story only applies to locations above xxx units, with a Big Box business model.  The other smaller locations will also tend to consolidate, but at a small town level within 40 to 60 miles.

So your final question of last stage market cycle or is the end near.  Again, there are two different markets and they could be just across the street from each other.

Big Box- End is near-  they work off of averages.  They may hurt each other in some markets.  But there are cities out there of 500,000 people that there is not a single Big Box located there.  Even once they fill all their potential areas; then the consolidation process begins.  They start to make money off of streamlined corporate, computer systems, financing cutting 1% point off, advertising they do away with Sparefoot since they own the market, they buy their own maintenance and construction companies- which I say stay in your lane, they control pricing, etc.  Yes they will hit a dip, but then their profits will increase and streamline until they have reached maturity as an industry.  That's about 20 years out.  Buy them, there is still an increase profit stream in front of them, versus other mature industries. Like a SFH, make sure their numbers work for them to either Sale out, or to stay for the long run.

Little Guy strategy-  same as the big guys. Or are they the same as US. Take advantage of the Baby Boom generation, all of these will be for sale.  Most of their kids wont live there anymore and don't want to do storage, it is boring.

1.  When I go into a town I look to both buy and build.  Which ever is the most beneficial is the one I do first.  Prefer to buy, since this takes out competition and gets me faster to price control.; 

2.  Price control- Once I reach 60% of the market, I raise the unit price $10.  Doesn't sound like much, but this is about a 30% increase in profit, with no cost.

3.  Now that I have consolidated several towns and locations in an area, if/when we go to sale; we will offer a multiple package deal versus one location.  This is more valuable than just one location.  All of the consolidation and acquisition work has been done.  All of the systems, contracts, maintenance have been consolidated.  Back office efficiency.  We are in 5 towns.  Have 7 locations and building an 8th.  Last two locations are in large metro.  Location 1: 230 phase 1/ 200 phase 2/ Contractor buildings phase 3;  Location 2: 330 units in one phase.  All done on one phone.  We never meet our customers- self service.

4. Same as big boys, go back and refinance, and pick up 2% points on financing.

5.  Do away with Sparefoot.  We own 60% of the market.  Increase our profit by 15% points.

My advice is for you to build your own syndicate.  Go out and pick smaller (30,000 or less) towns and sit on them, hammer them, grow them, consolidate them.

Start small and make your Big Mistakes Early.

Post: Worth it to utilize storage.com/ sparefoot?

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Hello, sounds like you moved forward.

Will help you answer your question two ways:

a.  Go to google and type in Self Storage and your town or zip code.  See which of the above storage softwares show up both the most and the earliest.  Some of these softwares are actually the same company and system.  That is the Best one.

b.  Would you get them through Google anyways.  Go to google and type in self storage for your town or zip code.  1.  On google maps, hit the see all and see what rank you are.  If your the top three and show on the first page great.  If your number 50, then Google maps is not helping you.  Your SEO power is not strong enough.; 2.  Same on Google, look and see what page you show up.  This is a reflection of your SEO power.  Sparefoot will always win against a single company or location.  Same for the large national accounts.  Plus it will take you $1,500 per month and several months or years to work your way up.  Versus if your on Sparefoot, your immediately at the top.; 3.  At the bottom are you in the "other people searches"?  If not, your google ranking isn't high enough, so your not getting Google tenants through Sparefoot.

Your real question is why are you at 1/4 vacant.

a.  Analyze by size.

b.  By size do comparisons to your local competitors within 3 miles.  Price, discounts, physical appearance, security, etc.  Are you priced correctly for Value.

c.  Obvious.  Do you have a road sign.

d.  What are your competitors vacancy rate.  If all of you are at 25% vacate then the market is saturated.  You then need to either lower your price, which I don't recommend.  Or change your product/configurations or purpose.

Post: Buying a mobile home in a park with lot rent

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Start small and make your big mistakes early.

Most people never make the jump to investing.

1.  How much is your downside to this deal?  If you buy the unit for $8k and rent for the same $415 per month, assume for the lot rental.  You rent the trailer for $???  $850k.  Net is lets say $400k.  Winner.  Plus I believe you can write off this investment in year one and pay no taxes for a while.  Cash or 3/5 year loan deal.

2.  Same as above, but you put $2.5k in.  Now your at lets say $11k.  Rent for $850k; lot is $415k?  Confirm this $415k is not an old grandfathered in rate.  Net$400k.  Cash or 3/5 year loan deal.

3.  You flip.  Renovate and sell for $70k.  Sounds to good.  If you don't own the lot.  You buy a new Trailer.  Isn't your cost well below $70k.  I would do this all day long then.  Recheck the numbers and understanding.

Recommendation:

a. So you lose your entire $8k investment. How much does it cost to dispose of a trailer. You get a learning opportunity, plus you leapt off the cliff towards REI.

b.  You buy for $8k and sell for $6k.

c.  Be careful between friend and sucker.  Do your homework and math, don't make your first deal because it was a friend and you didn't do your due diligence.  Make sure this is a learning experience.

The most important part of this deal is that you start your Real estate investment.  And your downside is small.  You truly don't start to learn until you put money down.  This is a great opportunity with low exposure.

Your background said heavy equipment.  Start driving around and looking for filthy, nasty, dirt/locations, swampy, boggy, trees/brush, etc.  You should be able to see that and "what it can be".  And estimate cost to clear.  Check on sewer/water/storm drain-ponds/electric/fire hydrants.   Most people can't do that.  After that, stick to the motto; location/location/location.  Go with your strengths.

Like the deal your looking at.

Post: Self Storage Day to day Constructing a new facility

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Being from Louisiana, sometime I just have to say Honey, I love you.

Just got our ice and snow removed about two days ago from the Shady side of our buildings. Now our next snow storm is moving in. Hopefully it will be light. And we have some 40 degree days following.

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Again, part of this post is sharing my failures and hopefully lessons learned. The building above is double pitched roof one side facing south and the other facing north. The north facing side gets no sun and takes forever to melt. You can get the ground cleaned, but the snow and ice on the roof keeps thawing and re-freezing, making the road below slick.

The next picture is a 40 x 200 building on our new location. We ordered with a single pitch roof facing the south. Should melt off fast and keep the road clear. The north facing sides we will just need to remove the snow/ice on the ground and not worry about liquid from the roof.

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Post: Deal Analysis - Baton Rouge property first time investor

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@Greg N.

Just because its snowing up here in Iowa and I don't have anything to do.  Also I went to LSU.  I'll throw some questions out for you to consider.  Key no matter what I say, I think it is a good idea for you to start REI investments.

1. Read the HOA agreement thoroughly and understand it, and its down side.

2.  Looks like College renters.  What happens if you miss one month of rent?

3.  How fast and for how much can you turn your apartment around.  Reduce impact of 2 above.  Cost of repainting and clean up.  Will you pay someone or are you prepared to drop what you are doing personally and get it ready?

4.  Covid impact.  What are the schools doing for in-class or all online.  They can do that from home.

5. Are you doing this from a revenue or a value generation perspective? Just need to make sure it is meeting your REI objectives. Will these apartments 10 years from now, be worth more or less? Whats the neighborhood look like now and in the future?

6.  $46k cash;  Why is this so high?  You want to put as little cash in as possible, especially with todays interest rates.

7. Relative to 5 above.  What is your target?  Do you want to make $2,500 per month cash, thus you will need 10 of these?  Do you have the cash or equity access for the downpayment to go down this road?

8.  Your note on reserves for maintenance.  Lay a spreadsheet out and note the years.  Evaluate your property.  Put so much and so often in for carpet replacement, Tile or linoleum replacement, kitchen, windows, bathroom, HVAC, hot water, etc. Compare that against your $250 per month.

9.  Note payment $550 per month.  Sounds okay if your financing the full 110k.  But your putting $46k down.  Seems to high.

Again, no matter what, now is the time for you to start investing in Real Estate.

Send me a picture of a stick of Boudin at your local gas station.  Steaks are great up here, but miss all of the flavor.

Geaux Tigers

Post: Ready to do this! Trying to find my first property

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@Michael Marroquin

Way to start the next step.  Glad you have a known figure to invest.  Take that against how you plan to finance and that will help you set your investment target.

Example:

SBA loan 10% then you can have a $800,000 investment.

SBA loan 15% then $530,000

Traditional 25% then $320,000

and so forth.  Require a construction loan, interest only until your off the ground.

Starting out, I would recommend: 

a.  Keep some cash reserves to cover any unknown costs and any revenue or timing shortfalls. 

b.  Always start small and make your big mistakes early.  Better to try a $150,000 investment versus a $800,000 one.  You can recover financially quicker and you learn the same lesson for a lot less cost.  Plus you have enough cash to do a second deal.

I know this is money, but I would get as much fun and learning out of this as possible.

1.  Talk to a realtor and let them know you may run a deal through them.  Also if they see something.  Look on line in your area and see which realtor is handling the most deals in your ballpark$$.  Don't try to learn to much at once.  Later you might try to close through a lawyer or etc. But for now get a deal done.

2.  Talk to a banker and tell them your path.  Get them your last 3 years tax returns and also fill out any loan applications and balance sheet info. If you do an SBA loan, make sure your bank is comfortable handling these.

The above people will start to be part of your team.  Make sure you like them and they are good.

3.  Get dirty/have fun.  Start driving and looking for properties.  Go for Coal and not diamonds.  Let your friends and acquaintances know.  Talk to Lawyers who handle bankruptcies, divorces and estate closures.  Talk to lawn service people.   Develop a call list of the above.  Call them every 3 months until they know you. Its snowing where I'm at. Look at every property that isn't cleaned up one week later and start knocking.  Stay in your kind of $$$$$ investment neighborhood, increase your odds, plus stay small starting out.

4. Don't mentally get stuck on SFH/MFH; everyone is looking for that. Example: Look at "Loopnet" 512 W Simpson st, Mechanicsburg, PA. You can do this is in other areas. Commercial property. Get it re-zoned. Its already in a neighborhood. Take it to a duplex or triplex. House hack it, if its an area you can live in. Take your house or rental money and convert it to this property with a 1031 or just no more rent. While you live there work on the other 1 or 2 units. What you have as a new investor is a lot more options than long time investors, use that to your strength; look for deals that work for you but not them. Less competition, lower price. This one doesn't work, try the next one. One of these will work price, living, zoning, etc wise. That's the fun. Don't wait for a realtor to find you a deal, it won't happen physically or value wise.

Do a store front or service front, and a rental unit in back.  Great parking and road frontage.  You may go through 10 of these before you find the one that works for you.

5.  Keep all of your properties up for sale.  Even while you are rehabbing think in terms of resale.  Some properties will cash flow great and you will want to keep.  Always have a price on them, even though you will probably keep.  Some properties will be a great flip and make you some money.  Take the learning experience and move on to the next opportunity.  Don't sit on a mediocre deal.

Fun times starting out.  You will never have all of the info.  Just look at your big exposure items; roof, floor, ceiling, footings, HVAC, windows, water/sewer, any EPA.  Make sure you cover all of the big gotchas.  If you fail, fail small.  Key thing is to make an investment and start.

Post: When do you Leave your W2 for Investing Full Time

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There is to much going on and to long to get in depth.  Take anything I say and adjust it based on knowledge base of your situation.  Don't worry about responding to me, point by point.

1.  Learning more, whether on the ground or textbook is not your issueIf anything you may hurt yourself.  Your going to reach a level, where even if you can do the drywall and could save money, you shouldn't.  Otherwise you stay an hourly employee, even if your working for yourself.  Plus time management with the family or working on the next deal.

2.  Personal side- finances and 4 Kids.  I am probably totally misreading your comments. Adjust to fit your knowledge base, versus giving me more info. Sounds like you did a lot of work but the end result is no cash or investment? But I look on your background and it looks like you have a lot of REI investments, which becomes a question, to what degree are they cash flowing. Obvious- On the kids side, they require time.    On the REI side your could work till 12 every night and still have things to do.  My point on this, is later your REI investment approach, will need to balance these.  Example:  You can't have three rehabs going at the same time, trying to do the work yourself and still go to ball games or say goodnight.  Your REI investment style at some point has to become more entrepreneur and less physical rehabber.

3.  When to switch over. When your fired or between jobs, but have the financial backing to reach the "Goal" of REI investor only. Or, when you have a day job and an REI business, and you finally run out of time to do both. But you also have REI cash flow going to supplement. Never assume you will reach a point where your covering your salary. Your jump will be before you hit that number, which means you have to adjust your Personal finances for the 1 to 3 years till you get back to your number.

Recommendation:

Take all that you know and build a financial, deal, personal road map to the "Goal".

Your at point "A". Define REI cashflow, debt load, cash on hand, etc. Family. Make sure your wife is along for the ride. Show her the roadmap.

You want to get to point "B".  Same as above.

Now define how you get between A and B.  How many deals?  What type of Deals?  What magnitude of deals? How much work do you do? Work hours versus family hours.  They will never be balanced, but how do you make them work?

An example output:

I need to have 10 deals cash flowing $7,000 per year each.  I need to add two deals every year.  Or you stay salaried, but go for long-term wealth growth versus cash flow.  Example:  Want to have 5 investments I can cash out in 15 years for $500,000 net.

Need to either get rid of or not do any cash flow deals under $x,xxx per year.  Sucks up to much time and less return for the same amount of work.  Only do these when you have a time hole, and do as a fix/flip for cash generation.  Don't do with your money, do for another investor, so your not out cash.

You have already done the above in your Masters Bus Ldrshp as an exercise.  Just need to do for yourself.

Once a month pull this map out and question your workload and approach.  

Cash is never an issue.  Read throughout BP.  A lot of East/West coast people looking to Ohio and the Midwest.

Work the baby boomer crowd. Versus doing 2 or 3 deals in a year, you might do one that is 20 times larger. Look at Apartment complexes and Trailer Parks. I know of an 85 year old that has 37 SFH/MFH units. Something has to give for him and his family. Find those people in your area and get to know them. Give them more than money. Hire them at $10,000 a year and tell them you need "their help" working 8 to 12 hours a week.

You can get to your REI full time level one SFH at a time or you might do it in one deal. Key point is to do your GAP analysis A to B; and force/question your approach. Otherwise your will work your butt off and be at the same place 5 years from now.

Just need a road map.  You got everything else.  Experience, knowledge, reason to succeed, Cash is available and most importantly you don't mind jumping off the Salary/Hourly cliff.

Catch you in 5 years.