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All Forum Posts by: Aaron Brown

Aaron Brown has started 4 posts and replied 87 times.

Post: East Kansas City/Independence Buyers Agent Referrals?

Aaron BrownPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Independence, MO
  • Posts 92
  • Votes 37

Right now I'm just looking to purchase buy and hold rentals. I'll keep you in mind if I come across something. 

Post: East Kansas City/Independence Buyers Agent Referrals?

Aaron BrownPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Independence, MO
  • Posts 92
  • Votes 37

I see this is a pretty old post, did you find a good agent?  I can give you a referral if you need? 

Have you made some good rental  purchases in independence?  Right now I am focusing specifically on Independence. 

Post: 203k fha

Aaron BrownPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Independence, MO
  • Posts 92
  • Votes 37

Very happy to have helped Kim! 

Yes,  it definitely has to home owner occupant. And they are very strict on this rule. You have to live in the property for at least one year.

you may try checking out HUD's website here:

http://portal.hud.gov/hudportal/HUD?src=/program_offices/housing/sfh/203k

Post: 2% Rule

Aaron BrownPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Independence, MO
  • Posts 92
  • Votes 37

Sweet numbers Stephen! I'm not familiar with Michigan either,  those areas must be near Detroit,  right?  ;)

Im curious though. .. would you consider this class C neighborhoods? Class D? Also, what is your vacancy rates running? And turnover fix up costs?  any tenant issues?

Post: Made an offer and seller rejected. Now what?

Aaron BrownPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Independence, MO
  • Posts 92
  • Votes 37

Did you accept the counter at 77.5k?  Or are you holding strong at 75k?  

Post: Newbie From Kansas City, MO

Aaron BrownPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Independence, MO
  • Posts 92
  • Votes 37

@Drew Francis 

Welcome to BP... you're gonna love it here!  I sure do!  Haha!

Post: 203k fha

Aaron BrownPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Independence, MO
  • Posts 92
  • Votes 37

hey Joseph, I just saw that no one had replied here so wanted to give you some information.

Major Difference between conventional and FHA/203k: FHA-you can get a low 3.5% down payment. Conventional you have to have 20-25 percent down on a 4 Plex. Also, FHA loans require mortgage insurance, which will raise your monthly payment...

I used a 203k(owner occupant-rehab) loan, on a fourplex back in May of 2014. You have to use one general contractor, and cannot use individual subcontractors. The GC can use subcontractors but it all has to go through the GC. before you close on the loan, there is a huge stack of paperwork that you have to go through and the GC has to be selected and finalized and you must turn in the borrowers agreement, signed bid and scope of work, and the GC has lots of paperwork as well.The GC you select must be licensed bonded and insured, provide several references. 

A little about my experience-The extra paperwork that the borrower and the GC must fill out for the 203k approval is pretty extensive. I contacted four GC's- up front,  1 declined to bid, 1 didn't meet  licensing and insurance Requirements.  The other 2 bid on the projects.  I selected the lowest bid. After about a month and two closing date extensions,after pushing this contractor and working with 4 different people in the company, I still was not able to get all of the required paperwork turned in. It came down to one last piece of info we needed and they finally decided to back out a couple days before closing. Another extension. I then had to go back to the last GC who was the highest bid. I was able to negotiate a little lower price on some projects, which was good,  but he was still 2-3 times higher than 1st GC On some major projects.  I ended up using the cheaper contractor for some work later, but this I had to pay out of pocket and couldn't wrap into the loan. I also did lots of work myself, but anything on the signed scope of work using the 203k, must be done by the GC you hire.  payment-the bank pays the GC half up front and half on completion when you and the inspector has signed off on the finished work.

My loan application and paperwork approval almost blew up on me due to timelines and paperwork expiring because of all the delays. Luckily even with all the extensions we were able to close on the property Thanks mostly to my very knowledgeable mortgage lender and help from my agent! I highly recommend using a very experienced mortgage lender who has done several 203k loans And can push all parties to get required paperwork submitted. 

In the end, it was a TON of work but definitely worth it!  Good luck on finding a deal! let me know if you have any questions I may be able to help with.

Post: Made an offer and seller rejected. Now what?

Aaron BrownPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Independence, MO
  • Posts 92
  • Votes 37

Wow, I have absolutely loved reading this thread!  Please let us readers know how this deal ends up!

Post: 203 loan

Aaron BrownPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Independence, MO
  • Posts 92
  • Votes 37

I will second what@Micki McNie said about getting a mortgage lender that is very familiar with a 203 k loan. There is a ton more paperwork that has to be done, and it is vital that they have experience. If they have done it before, then they will able to give you contractor references in your area that are qualified and experienced doing 203k loans. My mortgage guy was AMAZING in helping me push the deal through to close,  despite several obstacles, and extensions. He is a vital part of my team!

 The GC must be licensed bonded and insured. without a GC that is familiar with 203 k loans, and the paperwork and requirements they have to complete, a contractor can make you lose the deal as well. It almost happened to me...

Post: Newbie in Kansas City, Missouri looking for friends to go to meetings with.

Aaron BrownPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Independence, MO
  • Posts 92
  • Votes 37

hi Douglas, welcome to BiggerPockets! You should check out marei.com, mid-america real estate investors Association. there's also it on eastern jackson county landlords association group, but I have yet to go to 1 of those meetings. Does anyone else have any info on that group? I've heard good things and hope to make my first meeting in the coming months.

Also there is a bigger pockets KC meetup group, but I don't think they've had a meeting for some time. Looking to do another meet up in KC soon! Also there's a small group of investors in Independence that are starting up A networking/learning group. I'm hoping for big things out of that group! 

Thanks and hope to see you around and meet you and others soon!