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Updated 4 months ago, 08/28/2024

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Bryan Fleming
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  • Metro East St. Louis area
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Skip tracing resources

Bryan Fleming
  • New to Real Estate
  • Metro East St. Louis area
Posted

Hello! 

I am working my way to becoming a wholesaler/investor.  I have a list of properties I've found, off market. I am having some trouble skip tracing these. I've typically been doing the foot work. I talk to neighbors. I ask around the area. I find as much info as I can on internet searches. I am hoping someone can shine some light on other skip tracing resources I could be using, to get contact info on these properties. Any help is appreciated! I am in the St. Louis/Metro St. Louis area. Thank you, for your time. Also, any investors, or other wholesalers in the area, I would love to link up and get to know the other players in the area. Lets connect!

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Austin Beveridge
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  • San Francisco
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Austin Beveridge
  • Specialist
  • San Francisco
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Endoto is the best in class provider, though batchleads is also great! https://endato.com/

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Shebi Khan
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Shebi Khan
  • Specialist
  • NC
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@Bryan Fleming Go with Propstream.

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Jp Kilduff
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  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Brevard Co. Florida
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Jp Kilduff
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There are several skip tracing providers out there. Find one that has flexible spending options as well as the capability to skip trace LLCs (which is a double skip process). Many times you are able to do the research yourself, but utilizing a skip tracing provider is giving you your time back for a low cost. If you would like more information specific to skip tracing, let me know.

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    Jose Castillo
    • Flipper/Rehabber
    • Springfield, MA
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    Jose Castillo
    • Flipper/Rehabber
    • Springfield, MA
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    @Bryan Fleming I use FreedomSkips.com same high quality data as Batch, NeedtoSkip, and SkipGenie without the high prices. This is literally Tear1 data for Pennie’s. I get about an 85% hit rate.

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    Larry Higgins
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    Larry Higgins
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    • Alvin, TX
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    If you google Larry Higgins Skip Tracing or Larry Higgins vacant houses, you’ll find podcasts I’ve done on the topic of utilizing Skip tracing for deals.  I think the two most informative ones I did were with Chris Chico and Chris Bruce.    Implementing a solid skip tracing strategy into your marketing mix can be extremely valuable.   Most people just blindly call as many people as they can….. and usually with the cheapest and worst data they can get their hands on.   Generic lists + poor skip trace data = horrible results.  

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    Larry Higgins
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    Larry Higgins
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    Just to really drive the point home on how easy most of these owners are to find if you're using a true quality skip trace service, feel free to message me and I'll personally run a couple for you and send you full reports on the owners and possibly the owners' relatives if I see anything that makes me think you should be contacting relatives.  I'm a big fan of newer investors pursuing distressed vacant properties for a litany of reasons.

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    Christian Padilla
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    Christian Padilla
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    Truepeoplesearch & Opencorporates (for LLCs) are good free sources we use.

    We've been getting a lot of wrong numbers on batch leads so we've switched over to Skipmatrix and it's been way better.

    If you need help calling any sellers I'd be glad to help!

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    Larry Higgins
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    Larry Higgins
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    Those services you mentioned are terrible for vacant houses for the reasons I mentioned in my post.   Using services like those will cost you deals because of the poorer data and limited data sets they offer.  

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    Bryan Fleming
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    Bryan Fleming
    • New to Real Estate
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    Quote from @Jose Castillo:

    @Bryan Fleming I use FreedomSkips.com same high quality data as Batch, NeedtoSkip, and SkipGenie without the high prices. This is literally Tear1 data for Pennie’s. I get about an 85% hit rate.

    This is great. Thank you!!


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    William Murden
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    @Shebi Khan

    do these work for vacant lots as well?

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    Jacob Stevenson
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    Jacob Stevenson
    • Insurance Agent
    • Sioux City
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    Quote from @Jp Kilduff:

    There are several skip tracing providers out there. Find one that has flexible spending options as well as the capability to skip trace LLCs (which is a double skip process). Many times you are able to do the research yourself, but utilizing a skip tracing provider is giving you your time back for a low cost. If you would like more information specific to skip tracing, let me know.


     Any services to get the data to 100%?  Basically looking for someone to pick up the phone and validate.  I have the lists, I have them scrubbed, just need an economical way to get them to 100% valid homeowner lists.  

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    Tanner Lewis
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    Tanner Lewis
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    Batch Skip Tracing is easy to use and accurate

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    Erick Armando Gonzalez
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    Erick Armando Gonzalez
    • Realtor
    • Oceanside, CA
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    I came across your post and was curious to see if you've had any luck with skip tracing since then. Your approach of doing the footwork and talking to neighbors is solid, but I know it can be time-consuming.

    Have you found any additional resources for skip tracing that have worked well for you? I've heard about services like BatchSkipTracing, PropStream, and Skip Genie that others have had success with, but I'd love to hear what you've discovered.

    Also, how's the St. Louis/Metro St. Louis market treating you? Have you been able to connect with other wholesalers or investors in the area? I'm working my way into wholesaling/investing as well and would be interested in linking up to exchange insights and see how we can help each other grow. Let me know if you're open to connecting!

    Looking forward to hearing more about your progress!

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    Jacob Stevenson
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    Jacob Stevenson
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    Quote from @Tanner Lewis:

    Batch Skip Tracing is easy to use and accurate


     Not accurate enough.

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    Tanner Lewis
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    Tanner Lewis
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    Quote from @Jacob Stevenson:
    Quote from @Tanner Lewis:

    Batch Skip Tracing is easy to use and accurate


     Not accurate enough.

    Hey Jacob - do you mean phone number and email? 

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