@David Freed yes, I have experience in both.

I'm still buying in Detroit and closing on a duplex here shortly.Happy to talk more about my experience/journey/etc. and shoot you some resources if you want to send me a DM.

  :)Now, as I move forward, I'm shifting to option 2 for sure, or balancing my portfolio with more of these types of plays. 

Quote from @David Greathouse: Usually landlords pay for the water/sewer and tenants take car of their own snow removal in my experience. 

From my experience, a person typically has to mail out thousands of letters to get a small response.Out of the small response a person needs to be able to know how to structure and the ability to close the deal.

I'm wondering if anyone on BP has recent experience (last couple years) with a Spartan Invest turn-key property purchase. 

Did anyone experience this?

-*Higher for longer rates*Overpriced construction*Lower cash flow given reduction in Post Covid+Much higher competition and in my eyes structural reduce demand for Pigeon forge-esque experiences as GenZ/Millenials start taking over the Family travel spend (as many of you point out).

A young guy with no construction experience....worst Home Inspector ever.

Situation built for the Dave Ramsey play book.