The fact that Steve successfully applied the material to do a deal puts this head and shoulders above most recommendation.

There is always more room in any market.Statistics have shown less than 1% of those who claim to be a real estate investor ever do enough to actually make it happen.Don't look over your shoulder.

REI and Jon, Prepare for me to cry on your shoulder.

This is way over my head but I do rub shoulders with a couple of the investors.I look elsewhere and travel a bit.

Both players concern me and I believe we will always be looking over our shoulder as long as we are beholden to them. 

Even so, thanks for the sage wisdom all, it can serve as a reality check to us all to watch out bottom line and exit strategies when going into deals.May your Guardian Angels be on your shoulder next negotiation,Tevis

Why shoulder the loss when you can profit from it?

Come join our Landlord meetup (click the link for the schedule - next one is May 9) and rub shoulders with some other local landlords.  

Then...3) Reach out to the more active local investors and ask if you can do a "ride along", or look over their shoulder for a day.

It seems they might not want to shoulder possibly paying people close to 15 bucks an hour minimum wage to flip burgers.