im playing with using a structure for purchasing commercial or commercial with rental units that involves an investor putting up the down payment and my side holding the mortgage.

Partnerships can be a powerful way to accelerate growth in any business venture, real estate not withstanding. 

I look to get into the game they're playing.

I think the play with holding land long term would be to find a rough area that is in the path of re-gentrification. 

If you practice and role-play enough, you can have conversion rates of 25%+. 

If you don't understand something, bigger companies have enough man power to answer the question and when you get the info you need you can come back to less expensive contractors and negotiate with them, if they are within the range.

I'm curious to hear other's systems for marketing plans.I'm playing around with the idea of having a variable system based on quarter.I.E.

Try to figure out what arena you want to play in and focus your efforts on learning about the areas those properties can be found in.Hope this helps! 

hey all,curious as to know how much capital you started out with when you first began REI, particularly in relation to what your first property cost, the downpayment, and how things played out with it (cashflow, how quickly you recovered your investment, etc.)thanks for any info!

But if there's a bedroom being used as an office, or a former kid's bedroom now being used by an adult, it can come into play.