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All Forum Posts by: Victor S.

Victor S. has started 14 posts and replied 1187 times.

Post: Is it worth suing our builder?

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Quote from @Melanie P.:

 That was your mistake. Failing to give him the opportunity to assess and repair the damages nullifies any legal claim you may have had. Contact him about your other concerns BEFORE you repair them on your own and let us know if you need help addressing any of those. 

 wut... OP said they're outside of the warranty period. Are they supposed to be waiting on the guy to do something about his shoddy work while their house is literally falling apart?

Post: Replace roof and HVAC?

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if hvac is really, really old, you could try shopping a "home warranty" that doesn't have hvac caps and exclusions and just get it for "systems." i know AHS used to offer those a while back, but even they started capping to to 3k or something silly. Not sure if there are any other ones that exist these days with no caps.

Post: Replace roof and HVAC?

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Quote from @Dan Frehmeyer:
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I am currently rehabbing my primary at the moment with plans to rent out this fall. I am doing mostly cosmetic fixes to a SFH currently.

I am looking for thoughts on whether I should be proactive with replacing a 20yr+ old roof (missing shingles, multiple layers, looks terrible) and a 25yr+ old hvac. The water heater was replaced a few months ago.

I have access to very cheap money so my thought is to be proactive with those major expenses before I turn it into a rental. The property will still cash flow with the extra cost of these expenses. Additionally, the house will likely appraise very favorably after as well with a cash out refi a big possibility

Thoughts?


 YES replace the roof, about 250- 275  a sq depending on pitch. YES replace the furnace, 1800ish, ASSUMING is about 1k- 1500 sq ft house


 How does one buy a furnace for 1800? Im new so I am asking out of curiosity 

 They don't, they/we pay less, that's the remove and install price :) . Call around you will also get pricing from 300 -400 a sq for roofing.  As I have posted 100x, so many get ripped off out there. 

 $1,800 if he doesn't need to bring anything up to code (or upgrade from downflow to upflow, etc.), and if it's straight out/in install sounds reasonable.

Post: Newbie with Roof/Insurance problem!

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 fraud lol that's cute coming from an insurance guy. 

$20k for a retile? lol keep shopping quotes.

Post: Newbie with Roof/Insurance problem!

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Quote from @Matthew Paul:

@Matthew Jones  You could turn this around on the insurance company . I deal with a roofing company they do a lot of storm damage ( insurance claim ) work .  They get similar calls from homeowners where the insurance company will tell them to fix the roof or be canceled . The roofer gets up on the roof and finds wind damage , and then the homeowner files a claim and the insurance company pays for a new roof less the deductable .

Then after they pay for a new roof , you drop them and get another insurance company . 

 Wouldn't recommend that, loss runs will just run your rates up and you will be paying more and instantly show red flags to your new carrier 


 nope, roof replacement from storm damage rarely, if ever, counts against the HO. what Matthew is talking about is legit. i've had my roof replaced by safeco (very easy to work with) and then switched my policy over to another carrier w/o any issues. One asterisk, tho. If OP's current carrier denies the claim (that's where he needs a good, experienced roofer), then he will have issues switching over to a new carrier with that denied claim on record. 

This is all sorts of wrong.

My initial issue with Matthew's advice is that the property has only been owned for a month so unless the "wind damage" occurred during that time there is no covered loss here.  The likelihood of getting Progressive to cover a claim ON THE ROOF when they are issuing a flat cancel due to inspection ON THE ROOF is very low.

For the most part, insurance companies don't inspect homes before coverage is bound.  They're inspecting nearly every home now post-bind because of the difficult insurance environment and ability to get off a risk (flat cancel) within a certain period of time (depending on the state) just after the policy was issued.  Meaning, they can cancel within first 45 or 60 days without having to wait until the policy anniversary.

Separate from that, there isn't any special provision for storm damage not negatively impacting your insurance.  If a storm is deemed a catastrophe that is a different story.  Unless there was a severe storm with widespread damage in the past month of home ownership...not gonna fly.  

All that being said, there are a lot of roofing companies that do exactly what @Matthew Paul was suggesting.  Sometimes it's totally legit. Other times they go from house to house in a neighborhood and solicit homeowners to get projects replacing roofs.  Needless to say this practice eventually gets fought by insurance, prices go up, policies get less comprehensive, etc.  It's happening now all over the place.  It's a vicious cycle.

Whatever your opinions are on this practice the tricky part about this situation is that this is a new purchase and new insurance policy.  You're looking at a very small window for when damage could have occurred and therefore an actual covered loss.

When purchasing an insurance policy you will be asked when the roof was last replaced.  It's a significant rating factor.  You'll also have to disclose that your previous policy was cancelled and why.  If you replace the roof and can prove that you've done so you should be able to get a new policy with a new carrier.  Some will have issues with the work not being done by a licensed contractor.  There's no hard and fast rule and they may or may not ask specifically.

"Separate from that, there isn't any special provision for storm damage
not negatively impacting your insurance. If a storm is deemed a
catastrophe that is a different story. Unless there was a severe storm
with widespread damage in the past month of home ownership...not gonna
fly. "

that was my point. if there was a storm in the area, then it's deemed an "act of god" and doesn't count against you, unlike something you could've been in control of. i.e., your home getting robbed.

"Needless to say this practice eventually gets fought by insurance, prices
go up, policies get less comprehensive, etc. It's happening now all
over the place. It's a vicious cycle."

welcome to the world of insurance, where everyone is trying to one-up the other guy. this happens across the whole insurance spectrum and not limited just to home insurance.

to the OP, shop around and get a new carrier, then start consulting with experienced roofers in your area on what you remedy could be.


 But again, this is where you're incorrect. A storm claim typically DOES count against your insurance. There isn't a special provision for "act of God" having no impact.

For instance, if lightning strikes your house and you file a claim, it still counts as a claim and your insurance price could increase or eligibility for coverage could be affected. 

A catastrophe is a special situation where there is widespread storm damage to multiple insureds - not your average thunderstorm or windy day.

 explain to me why my insurance rate never went up after the roof was replaced then. people in OK have roof claims every 5-10 years and i've never once heard someone's insurance go up because of that.
If an insurance company is replacing roofs every 5-10 years they will go out of business unless insurance was much much much more expensive. That's absurd.

1. Your insurance pricing hasn't gone up over the years?
2. You could have had claim forgiveness on your policy (for your first claim)
3. Your claim was part of a catastrophe event as discussed 
4. They changed other things on your policy that kept the price down
5. Other factors reduced your pricing the year after the claim which hid the increase

There are a bunch of potential reasons and factors and every situation is different. Hard to say without knowing your specific scenario.


 again, it's not "my" specific scenario. every year, OK gets hammered with storms and people's roofs get replaced that doesn't harm one's premium. my roofer was "able" to tie it to whatever storm they had on this fancy weather app they use and used it to submit the claim. was it really "that" storm? who knows. that's why i keep telling this guy to find someone who knows what they're doing vs listening to guys like you and i arguing online. 

Post: Smokies "hiney showing" thread

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Just did a search and saw that the Carls went dark on Sep 25th, 2023. Weird…

 they don't want that Smoke... (no pun intended)

PS: they're on that YT revenue now

Post: What's the STR forecast for 2023?

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where's avery and her hubby? Bueller... 

Post: Newbie with Roof/Insurance problem!

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Quote from @Nathan M kiefer:
Quote from @Matthew Paul:

@Matthew Jones  You could turn this around on the insurance company . I deal with a roofing company they do a lot of storm damage ( insurance claim ) work .  They get similar calls from homeowners where the insurance company will tell them to fix the roof or be canceled . The roofer gets up on the roof and finds wind damage , and then the homeowner files a claim and the insurance company pays for a new roof less the deductable .

Then after they pay for a new roof , you drop them and get another insurance company . 

 Wouldn't recommend that, loss runs will just run your rates up and you will be paying more and instantly show red flags to your new carrier 


 nope, roof replacement from storm damage rarely, if ever, counts against the HO. what Matthew is talking about is legit. i've had my roof replaced by safeco (very easy to work with) and then switched my policy over to another carrier w/o any issues. One asterisk, tho. If OP's current carrier denies the claim (that's where he needs a good, experienced roofer), then he will have issues switching over to a new carrier with that denied claim on record. 

This is all sorts of wrong.

My initial issue with Matthew's advice is that the property has only been owned for a month so unless the "wind damage" occurred during that time there is no covered loss here.  The likelihood of getting Progressive to cover a claim ON THE ROOF when they are issuing a flat cancel due to inspection ON THE ROOF is very low.

For the most part, insurance companies don't inspect homes before coverage is bound.  They're inspecting nearly every home now post-bind because of the difficult insurance environment and ability to get off a risk (flat cancel) within a certain period of time (depending on the state) just after the policy was issued.  Meaning, they can cancel within first 45 or 60 days without having to wait until the policy anniversary.

Separate from that, there isn't any special provision for storm damage not negatively impacting your insurance.  If a storm is deemed a catastrophe that is a different story.  Unless there was a severe storm with widespread damage in the past month of home ownership...not gonna fly.  

All that being said, there are a lot of roofing companies that do exactly what @Matthew Paul was suggesting.  Sometimes it's totally legit. Other times they go from house to house in a neighborhood and solicit homeowners to get projects replacing roofs.  Needless to say this practice eventually gets fought by insurance, prices go up, policies get less comprehensive, etc.  It's happening now all over the place.  It's a vicious cycle.

Whatever your opinions are on this practice the tricky part about this situation is that this is a new purchase and new insurance policy.  You're looking at a very small window for when damage could have occurred and therefore an actual covered loss.

When purchasing an insurance policy you will be asked when the roof was last replaced.  It's a significant rating factor.  You'll also have to disclose that your previous policy was cancelled and why.  If you replace the roof and can prove that you've done so you should be able to get a new policy with a new carrier.  Some will have issues with the work not being done by a licensed contractor.  There's no hard and fast rule and they may or may not ask specifically.

"Separate from that, there isn't any special provision for storm damage
not negatively impacting your insurance. If a storm is deemed a
catastrophe that is a different story. Unless there was a severe storm
with widespread damage in the past month of home ownership...not gonna
fly. "

that was my point. if there was a storm in the area, then it's deemed an "act of god" and doesn't count against you, unlike something you could've been in control of. i.e., your home getting robbed.

"Needless to say this practice eventually gets fought by insurance, prices
go up, policies get less comprehensive, etc. It's happening now all
over the place. It's a vicious cycle."

welcome to the world of insurance, where everyone is trying to one-up the other guy. this happens across the whole insurance spectrum and not limited just to home insurance.

to the OP, shop around and get a new carrier, then start consulting with experienced roofers in your area on what you remedy could be.


 But again, this is where you're incorrect. A storm claim typically DOES count against your insurance. There isn't a special provision for "act of God" having no impact.

For instance, if lightning strikes your house and you file a claim, it still counts as a claim and your insurance price could increase or eligibility for coverage could be affected. 

A catastrophe is a special situation where there is widespread storm damage to multiple insureds - not your average thunderstorm or windy day.

 explain to me why my insurance rate never went up after the roof was replaced then. people in OK have roof claims every 5-10 years and i've never once heard someone's insurance go up because of that.

Post: Newbie with Roof/Insurance problem!

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Quote from @Owen Rosen:
Quote from @Victor S.:
Quote from @Nathan M kiefer:
Quote from @Matthew Paul:

@Matthew Jones  You could turn this around on the insurance company . I deal with a roofing company they do a lot of storm damage ( insurance claim ) work .  They get similar calls from homeowners where the insurance company will tell them to fix the roof or be canceled . The roofer gets up on the roof and finds wind damage , and then the homeowner files a claim and the insurance company pays for a new roof less the deductable .

Then after they pay for a new roof , you drop them and get another insurance company . 

 Wouldn't recommend that, loss runs will just run your rates up and you will be paying more and instantly show red flags to your new carrier 


 nope, roof replacement from storm damage rarely, if ever, counts against the HO. what Matthew is talking about is legit. i've had my roof replaced by safeco (very easy to work with) and then switched my policy over to another carrier w/o any issues. One asterisk, tho. If OP's current carrier denies the claim (that's where he needs a good, experienced roofer), then he will have issues switching over to a new carrier with that denied claim on record. 

This is all sorts of wrong.

My initial issue with Matthew's advice is that the property has only been owned for a month so unless the "wind damage" occurred during that time there is no covered loss here.  The likelihood of getting Progressive to cover a claim ON THE ROOF when they are issuing a flat cancel due to inspection ON THE ROOF is very low.

For the most part, insurance companies don't inspect homes before coverage is bound.  They're inspecting nearly every home now post-bind because of the difficult insurance environment and ability to get off a risk (flat cancel) within a certain period of time (depending on the state) just after the policy was issued.  Meaning, they can cancel within first 45 or 60 days without having to wait until the policy anniversary.

Separate from that, there isn't any special provision for storm damage not negatively impacting your insurance.  If a storm is deemed a catastrophe that is a different story.  Unless there was a severe storm with widespread damage in the past month of home ownership...not gonna fly.  

All that being said, there are a lot of roofing companies that do exactly what @Matthew Paul was suggesting.  Sometimes it's totally legit. Other times they go from house to house in a neighborhood and solicit homeowners to get projects replacing roofs.  Needless to say this practice eventually gets fought by insurance, prices go up, policies get less comprehensive, etc.  It's happening now all over the place.  It's a vicious cycle.

Whatever your opinions are on this practice the tricky part about this situation is that this is a new purchase and new insurance policy.  You're looking at a very small window for when damage could have occurred and therefore an actual covered loss.

When purchasing an insurance policy you will be asked when the roof was last replaced.  It's a significant rating factor.  You'll also have to disclose that your previous policy was cancelled and why.  If you replace the roof and can prove that you've done so you should be able to get a new policy with a new carrier.  Some will have issues with the work not being done by a licensed contractor.  There's no hard and fast rule and they may or may not ask specifically.

"Separate from that, there isn't any special provision for storm damage
not negatively impacting your insurance. If a storm is deemed a
catastrophe that is a different story. Unless there was a severe storm
with widespread damage in the past month of home ownership...not gonna
fly. "

that was my point. if there was a storm in the area, then it's deemed an "act of god" and doesn't count against you, unlike something you could've been in control of. i.e., your home getting robbed.

"Needless to say this practice eventually gets fought by insurance, prices
go up, policies get less comprehensive, etc. It's happening now all
over the place. It's a vicious cycle."

welcome to the world of insurance, where everyone is trying to one-up the other guy. this happens across the whole insurance spectrum and not limited just to home insurance.

to the OP, shop around and get a new carrier, then start consulting with experienced roofers in your area on what you remedy could be.