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All Forum Posts by: Tony Robinson

Tony Robinson has started 10 posts and replied 137 times.

Post: Completed My First BRRRR (With $0 Down) ! + Photos & Details

Tony Robinson
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Eastvale, CA
  • Posts 138
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@Dell J. Thank you! Haha, I actually closed on deal two one month after this one.

Post: Completed My First BRRRR (With $0 Down) ! + Photos & Details

Tony Robinson
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Eastvale, CA
  • Posts 138
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@Armand Ngassam thank you! And I’m glad to hear that you enjoyed the story brotha! That’s a big part of the reason why I’m sharing! Happy to answer any questions for you

Post: Completed My First BRRRR (With $0 Down) ! + Photos & Details

Tony Robinson
Property Manager
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Eastvale, CA
  • Posts 138
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@Peter Fennig thank you! My goal is to do even better next time!

Post: Completed My First BRRRR (With $0 Down) ! + Photos & Details

Tony Robinson
Property Manager
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Eastvale, CA
  • Posts 138
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@Christian DeCapria congrats on your deal! And PM me, would love to see some of your work.

Post: Completed My First BRRRR (With $0 Down) ! + Photos & Details

Tony Robinson
Property Manager
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Eastvale, CA
  • Posts 138
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@James Gates thanks James! You’re definitely one of the people I’m grateful to have met through BP. Planning to catch up to you ;)

Post: Completed My First BRRRR (With $0 Down) ! + Photos & Details

Tony Robinson
Property Manager
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Eastvale, CA
  • Posts 138
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@Christian DeCapria thanks! You in Shreveport too! Are you investing there also?

Post: Completed My First BRRRR (With $0 Down) ! + Photos & Details

Tony Robinson
Property Manager
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Eastvale, CA
  • Posts 138
  • Votes 459

Hey BP Community!

First, I want to thank you all for the incredible amount of knowledge and support I’ve received from members of this community. I truly believe I would not have closed this deal without Bigger Pockets and all of the resources that it offers. I’m truly GRATEFUL for the relationships I’ve been able to build just by being a member.

I closed on my first investment property in the Fall of 2019 and want to share my experience with everyone. My goal is to show those of you on the sidelines that it truly is possible to get started!

Background:

I live in California but decided to invest out of state. I chose Shreveport, Louisiana because I had family in the area and after visiting and seeing the real estate prices, I decided it’d be a great market to get my feet wet.

I also found a bank in that market that was willing to lend 100% of the purchase price AND the rehab if I found a good enough deal (more on that later).

The Deal:

My realtor and I had been searching for about a month before we came across this deal. It was listed on the MLS for $130,000.

I knew that zip code pretty well, and after confirming with my realtor, we were confident that the house could appraise for at least $215,000 after being rehabbed.

I asked my realtor to put an offer in at $110,000, and she told me I should go lower to $100,000 (that’s the kind of realtor that EVERY investor should be looking for!). I took her advice and made the offer at $100,000.

As my agent was prepping the offer, I asked my GC (who was referred by both my realtor and my mortgage officer at the bank) to swing by the property and draw up a bid based on some reference properties I sent him.


My agent got back to me, and lo and behold, they accepted the offer!

The Financing:

Here’s the best part of the story.

My bank in Shreveport, Aneca Federal Credit Union, offers an AMAZING loan program that allows me to fund 100% of the purchase price AND the rehab as long as the total is 72% or less of the ARV.

I was simultaneously talking with the bank while working with my GC and realtor. I let the bank know what the offer price was, the rehab bid amount, and what my realtor said the ARV should come out to.

They double-checked the numbers on their side, and then we were off to the races!

That’s a huge benefit of working with smaller, local banks. They know the market because they live there. And they typically have more flexibility than the larger, national banks.

The Rehab and Renting:

Once the deal closed, my GC got to work.

The house was built in the 50s, and the entire thing hadn’t been touched since then. There was this crazy parquet flooring throughout the house, all of the bathrooms had pink tile, there was this odd room right off the kitchen that no one could really tell what it was used for, exterior and interior paint was peeling and dated… to name a few.

Since I lived out of state, I would check in the GC on a weekly basis to see how things were coming along. One of the good things about having the bank fund the rehab was that they would send a bank representative to inspect all of the work being done before releasing a draw to the GC. So I had a built-in team member to validate that the work the GC said he was doing, was actually getting done.

The rehab was originally slated to last 8 weeks, and it ended up taking 12. But all in all, I was happy with the end result.

Once the rehab was completed, the keys were passed off to my Property Manager. We originally listed the property for $1,600, and it sat for over a week with little activity. We dropped it again to $1,550, and still not much activity after another week and a half.

We dropped the price one more time, and almost immediately found a family that wanted to sign a two-year lease! It took four weeks in total, but I was glad to find a great family that wanted to say long term.

The Result:

I feel this was a great first deal. I paid ZERO money out of pocket to close the deal and complete the rehab. My only costs were an inspection fee upfront of about $300 and the interest-only mortgage payments.

Purchase Price: $100,000

Rehab: $55,000

After Repair Value: $230,000

Rent: $1,500

Lessons Learned:

Review the Rehab Bid with Excruciating Detail: There were items in my rehab that we probably could've gone without and achieved the same ARV. The property came out great, but I left some money on the table here.

When You Think You’ve Got a Good Deal, Offer Less: I got a great deal at $100,000, but I missed my profit target. My property taxes shot up a bit more than I had planned. Had I started with a more aggressive offer price, I’d have more money left over at the end of each month. Your first offer should make you feel uncomfortable.

Find the Price Right for Your Rental: My property sat vacant for an entire month because we priced too aggressively. I had to make an extra mortgage payment out of my own pocket because I was pushing for an extra $100 in rent.

Time Your Refinance: I purchased this property using an interest-only construction loan at 6.0% interest. They told me I could either refinance as soon as the construction was complete (Month 3) or wait another three months to do a cash-out refinance. I chose to refinance immediately because I assumed (incorrectly) that a 30 year fixed mortgage at 4.75% would be cheaper than the 6.0% interest-only.

I was wrong.

The 30 year fixed mortgage was more expensive because it also includes escrow payments for my property taxes and home insurance, whereas the interest-only didn’t. For my next property, I made the decision to stick with the interest-only for the entire six month period, and then do a cash-out refinance.

Your First Deal is Mean to Teach!: I preach this all the time, but I truly believe that your first deal is meant to educate you. It’s meant to show you the ropes, and build a foundation that allows you to close on your second, third, fourth and fifth deals. Even if I only would’ve broken even on this deal, I would consider it a win because the true value came in the form of lessons learned.

Before and After:

Again, I’m truly grateful for this community and I’m happy to answer any questions that you have. I’ve learned a lot from this deal and I’m happy to share the good and the bad. I’m a normal guy, with a family and a full-time job. I had zero real estate experience prior to this deal, but I still got it done. So you can too!

Thank you so much for reading!

Post: Our first rental property.

Tony Robinson
Property Manager
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Eastvale, CA
  • Posts 138
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Congrats @Matthew Mckibben! Way to go in realizing that the "analysis paralysis" had set in, and that it was time to take action. And I love the initiative you took in sparking a conversation with the seller - plenty of other people would've let that opportunity pass them by. 

Post: Boise - first rental house bought and leased!

Tony Robinson
Property Manager
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Eastvale, CA
  • Posts 138
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Congrats @Maron Faulkner! People fret way too long to make that first deal happen, so I love seeing you jump in with both feet. Not everyone is in a position to take on the negative cashflow, but I'm assuming you'll learn so much from this first deal, that it'll pay for itself eventually. 

What's the long term goal? Raise rents until your cashflow positive? Hold for a few years and bank on appreciation? 

Post: First Joint Venture BRRRR

Tony Robinson
Property Manager
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Eastvale, CA
  • Posts 138
  • Votes 459

Thanks for sharing @Kristopher Kyzar! You took a unique route going with the Section 8, and being willing to take out a personal loan + hard money. Love the confidence!