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All Forum Posts by: Tony Robinson

Tony Robinson has started 10 posts and replied 137 times.

Post: How to Find Off-Market Apartment Deals

Tony Robinson
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Eastvale, CA
  • Posts 138
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So much knowledge being shared on this thread, thanks for sharing @Michael Ealy!

Post: Rapid Growth to 21,000 Units

Tony Robinson
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Eastvale, CA
  • Posts 138
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Originally posted by @Michael Ealy:
Originally posted by @Tony Robinson:

@Michael Ealy thanks for another insightful answer. I hear most of the syndication guru’s saying the normal GP/LP split is 30/70 (maybe that skews more towards the GP after certain milestones are hit), but I’ve seen a few of your post where you mention YOU’RE the 70.

Can you share how you uniquely position yourself/structure your deals to get passive investors to choose you at 70% over other syndicators at 30%?

You make a super valid point in saying less units with more equity is a better business model.

 Tony,

Yeah - I am not a "normal" apartment syndicator ;)

The main thing is I get deals with superior returns not marginal deals. In a way, the way I structure it with 70/30 GP/LP is actually beneficial for me and my investors. Why? It "forces" me to get deals with IRR of 30%-40% or higher. 

I wrote this on a separate post but the bottomline is, most syndicators give away 70% to the LP but they get marginal deals - say 15% IRR. Let's simplify it (but the correct calculation is not as straightforward as below however, I am simplifying it just to illustrate the point):

Marginal return of typical syndicator: 15% IRR x 70% = 10.5% IRR for the LP
Mike Ealy's project return: 40% IRR x 30% = 12% for my LP

Not only does my investors benefit from the higher return, they are also protected from market downturns. I did the math on this but the bottomline is that, the 10.5% IRR that the LPs are supposed to get...when the market goes down and say, the projections are off by 20%, the LPs of a typical syndicator's deal will get 0% real return and their money is stuck in the deal. In contrast, my LPs will likely get 6-8% IRR while getting their capital back (because even when market cap rates increase by 100 basis points, I can still sell my deal profitably).

Investors love safety and being able to get their money back first, before they look at IRR.

I have not lost money for my investors even during the Great Recession of 2008-2009 and investors love a good track record.

Lastly, when I refinance and I return my investors their capital, I don't buy their equity out. They still own 30% of the deal and get all their money back. As a result, they reinvest with me on my next deal because with me, they get to own equity in MULTIPLE properties with the same initial capital. With a typical syndicator, when they get their money back, they can only move their money to another deal but they no longer own the property they first invested in.

 Michael, 

Thank you so much for sharing that insight. I re-read what you wrote about 20 times. And I just read your other post about finding off-market deals. I've always understood the need to get a "GOOD" deal, but it's starting to sink in that there's a difference between "GOOD" and "GREAT". 

Post: Where do you usually get addresses list for marketing?

Tony Robinson
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Eastvale, CA
  • Posts 138
  • Votes 459

@Andrey Melvil I’m currently using propstream. It’s a monthly subscription, not a pay per lead. Super easy to use. The data isn’t always 100% accurate, but for the most part, it works!

Post: Rapid Growth to 21,000 Units

Tony Robinson
Property Manager
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Eastvale, CA
  • Posts 138
  • Votes 459

@Michael Ealy thanks for another insightful answer. I hear most of the syndication guru’s saying the normal GP/LP split is 30/70 (maybe that skews more towards the GP after certain milestones are hit), but I’ve seen a few of your post where you mention YOU’RE the 70.

Can you share how you uniquely position yourself/structure your deals to get passive investors to choose you at 70% over other syndicators at 30%?

You make a super valid point in saying less units with more equity is a better business model.

Post: Looking for Investors to Share the Story Behind Their First Deal!

Tony Robinson
Property Manager
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Eastvale, CA
  • Posts 138
  • Votes 459

@Joseph Firmin Thanks! Just shot you an email.

Post: Looking for Investors to Share the Story Behind Their First Deal!

Tony Robinson
Property Manager
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Eastvale, CA
  • Posts 138
  • Votes 459

Hello BP Community! 

I'm in the process of launching a new podcast titled "Your First Real Estate Investment", where I'll be interviewing real estate investors regarding the nitty-gritty details of their first real estate investment. There's a ton of valuable information already out there about real estate, but I felt there was a gap in the marketplace when it came to giving the hopeful investor a steady stream of information and inspiration needed to take down their very first deal. 

I've already completed 15 interviews with members of the BP community. 

If you'd like to be a part of the show and share the details of your first deal, please reach out to me so we can schedule a time! 

I'm targeting mid-November to launch the podcast. 

Thanks everyone! 

Post: Real Estate Attorney & CPA Referral

Tony Robinson
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Eastvale, CA
  • Posts 138
  • Votes 459

Hello BP Community! 

I live in California, and I'm in the process of buying an investment property (SFR) in Louisiana with a partner. We're thinking of setting up an LLC but would like to consult with a professional. Can anyone recommend someone? It'd be even better if this person has experience specifically with residents of California who invest out of state.

Thanks! 

Post: Best area in Huntsville for Multi-Family

Tony Robinson
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Eastvale, CA
  • Posts 138
  • Votes 459

Adding @James Gates to this thread as he has a few rentals in that market! 

Post: 15-unit in Bad Area, Partner left, 100% Vacant (Dumb Sh^*)

Tony Robinson
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Eastvale, CA
  • Posts 138
  • Votes 459

@Michael Ealy another super insightful post! Would you say this holds true for SFRs also? I’m investing out of state, and am relying on my realtor, PM, and contractor. It seems a bit unreasonable to fly out every time I buy a single house, so how would you best “trust but verify” in this scenario?

Post: 15-unit in Bad Area, Partner left, 100% Vacant (Dumb Sh^*)

Tony Robinson
Property Manager
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Eastvale, CA
  • Posts 138
  • Votes 459

@Michael Ealy I know you deal exclusively in large commercial real estate, but do you feel this holds true for when you're investing in SFR out of state? Would you suggest an out of state SFR investor fly to each prospective property?