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All Forum Posts by: Tony Robinson

Tony Robinson has started 10 posts and replied 137 times.

Post: Completed My First BRRRR (With $0 Down) ! + Photos & Details

Tony Robinson
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Eastvale, CA
  • Posts 138
  • Votes 459
Originally posted by @Natalie Teramoto:

@Tony Robinson Was the property one that had been on the MLS for awhile? Also, when did you go see the property in person? I want to consider farther states, but I'm still a little hesitant about being too far away from my properties!

Hey! The property was listed on the MLS, but I honestly can't recall how long it had been up. And I actually didn't see the property until after I closed. I flew into town the day of closing, and went to walk the property for the first time after I left the title company's office. 

My view on it is this - As a first-time investor with no previous real estate experience, outside of buying my own home, I didn't feel there was anything I was going to gain by seeing the property beforehand. My realtor walked the property, my GC walked the property, and I had an inspection done... I didn't feel I would be able to add value above and beyond what they had already given me. 

It's definitely scary going out of state to buy, but when you have a good team, it's much easier. 

Hope this helps! 

Post: Completed My First BRRRR (With $0 Down) ! + Photos & Details

Tony Robinson
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Eastvale, CA
  • Posts 138
  • Votes 459
Originally posted by @Tamar Hermes:

Wow! @tony Robinson You did an amazing job.  I would love to hear your final numbers. Obviously, learning is invaluable, but it would still be great to see.  thanks for sharing.

Thanks! And it's going to cashflow about $150 per month after PITI, Management, Vacancy, CapEx, Repairs.

Post: Completed My First BRRRR (With $0 Down) ! + Photos & Details

Tony Robinson
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Eastvale, CA
  • Posts 138
  • Votes 459
Originally posted by @Carl Lane:

@Tony Robinson Congratulations and thanks for sharing bruh.

Thank you and I'm happy to share! 

Post: Completed My First BRRRR (With $0 Down) ! + Photos & Details

Tony Robinson
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Eastvale, CA
  • Posts 138
  • Votes 459
Originally posted by @Shawn G.:

@Tony Robinson Very motivating. Congrats!

 Thank you! Glad to know you found some encouragement in the story. 

Post: Completed My First BRRRR (With $0 Down) ! + Photos & Details

Tony Robinson
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Eastvale, CA
  • Posts 138
  • Votes 459
Originally posted by @Tyler Caglia:

@Tony Robinson

Tony, congrats on your success. That is a fantastic story. Curious on a couple of things:

1. You said next time you’ll wait to refinance because the monthly payment on a 6% interest only construction loan is cheaper than a conventional 30 year at 4.75% since the conventional includes escrow payments for insurance and taxes. However, you would still be paying insurance and taxes regardless while you own the home, the only difference is whether it’s through your mortgage payment or not (tip- make sure you’re checking the county website for property taxes due shortly after closing since it’s not automatically covered by your construction loan). Why is this affecting your decision of when to refinance? Shouldn’t it be based on whether you want to walk away with any extra cash or not after the re-fi by doing a cash out instead of rate/term refinance? Or whether you’re wanting to get out of risky debt (interest only short term loan) and lock in a long term loan with a good rate as soon as possible to complete the deal? I am just confused why your decision of when to refinance has anything to do with fixed costs like insurance and taxes being included in the loan payment. Or did I misunderstand what you were saying?

2. I saw in one of your comments you’re cash flowing about $200 after management and all other fees. Does that include any contingency for monthly maintenance and vacancy?

Again, congrats on the success and thanks for sharing. Finding a bank that gave you those loan options was a fantastic story. I am based in CA and own out of state as well, always enjoy connecting with other investors doing the same thing.

 Thanks Tyler!


And I'll do my best to answer your questions as articulately as possible. 

(1) Yes, the cash out refi will definitely pay a role in my future decisions on when to time the refinance. But my point in the post was, I made the mistake of thinking that I'd be saving money on the mortgage by switching to perm financing. You're right in saying that the taxes + insurance had to be paid regardless, but with the perm is taken out automatically and placed into the escrow. With the interest-only, it would've been JUST the interest payment. 

(2) It includes Vacancy, Repairs and CapEx all set at 3%. I have some cash reserves set aside in case anything big happens.

Hope that answers everything! What part of CA are you in? Any idea on your target market yet? 

Post: Completed My First BRRRR (With $0 Down) ! + Photos & Details

Tony Robinson
Property Manager
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Eastvale, CA
  • Posts 138
  • Votes 459
Originally posted by @Craig Litchmore:

This is so motivating...! Thank you for sharing! I too love the business of real estate and I am looking forward to being productive in the field. I haven't close my first flip yet but I am looking forward to it with optimism, and hearing this story fires me up. 

Glad to hear you found some encouragement in the story! Good luck your first flip brother. You learn so much from that first deal. 

Post: Completed My First BRRRR (With $0 Down) ! + Photos & Details

Tony Robinson
Property Manager
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Eastvale, CA
  • Posts 138
  • Votes 459
Originally posted by @Gerard Restaino:

Awesome work! The financing is out of this world amazing!!! Wow! How did you find this bank?

 Thanks! You can read my earlier response to Erwin to get the full rundown. But at a high level, it was really just calling our to the local banks and asking if they offered it. But again, this was a local bank. I don't think we'd see the same success with a larger bank. 

Post: Completed My First BRRRR (With $0 Down) ! + Photos & Details

Tony Robinson
Property Manager
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Eastvale, CA
  • Posts 138
  • Votes 459
Originally posted by @John Collins:
Originally posted by @Tony Robinson:
Originally posted by @Alex Olson:

I think I missed the beginning part? What market did you invest in out of state and what type of returns are you getting if you can share? Cap rate, coc, cashflow?

No worries, I know it was a long post! The property is in Shreveport, LA. Returns and CoC are technically infinite because I invested $0 into the purchase or rehab (just the carrying costs). The property is currently rented out for $1,500 and all of my expenses, including management, are about $1300.

 What was the interest % you got on the loan? Many new borrowers get a very high interest rate so cash flow can get squeezed in deals where bank finances everything. Congratulations on the rehab and finding a small town market, there are a lot of gems out there away from bigger cities. 

Thanks! Yes, I'm a big believer in secondary or tertiary markets as a place to get started, both in SFR and MF. The construction phase was at %6.0 interest only, and the perm was at 4.75%. Much cheaper than HML.

Post: Completed My First BRRRR (With $0 Down) ! + Photos & Details

Tony Robinson
Property Manager
Pro Member
Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Eastvale, CA
  • Posts 138
  • Votes 459
Originally posted by @Ben Ebersole:

Congrats on the great deal, the place looks great!

 Thanks Ben! I'm in Eastvale, just down the road from you! 

Post: Completed My First BRRRR (With $0 Down) ! + Photos & Details

Tony Robinson
Property Manager
Pro Member
Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Eastvale, CA
  • Posts 138
  • Votes 459
Originally posted by @Joe Isaac:

Congratulations @Tony Robinson and thank you for sharing the details of your investment.  I just started looking into real estate investing and this is my first day in the BP forums.  Your story is truly inspiring. Best of luck in the future.  I look forward to hearing and learning more from you and the rest of the community.

 Thanks! I'm glad my story offered some help and inspiration! Happy to answer any other questions you might have.