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All Forum Posts by: Frank Barletta

Frank Barletta has started 14 posts and replied 161 times.

Post: is it a good time to buy single family rentals in Huntsville?

Frank BarlettaPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • New York, NY
  • Posts 163
  • Votes 95

 Happy to help. I'll reach out via DM.

Post: I want to start a new venture. What pains do you face in deal analytics?

Frank BarlettaPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • New York, NY
  • Posts 163
  • Votes 95

Hey, Everyone. 

I am a repeat founder and data nerd eager to build a new venture in the investing/data space.

I was hoping some (or many) of you would be comfortable sharing pains in investing that you wish went away.
You know, things that are so frustrating that you'd pay to have them stop. 

Everything helps and is appreciated!

Hey, Everyone. 

I am a repeat founder and data nerd who is eager to build a new venture in the investing/data space.

I was hoping some (or many) of you would be comfortable sharing pains in investing that you wish went away.
You know, things that are so frustrating that you'd pay to have them stop. 

Everything helps and is appreciated!

Post: Forget flipping in the NorthEast.. Welcome to Fayetteville, NC

Frank BarlettaPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • New York, NY
  • Posts 163
  • Votes 95
Quote from @Adam Schneider:

@Frank Barletta

Thank you for the post. Very informative. I have a hunch that you got some A I help in writing this! It's critical for out of towners to know that the Fayetteville market is heavily influenced by the military-- Fort Bragg (now Fort Liberty) is the anchor.


 I usually use Grammarly :)

Post: Is Syracuse, NY really a dump?? Maybe not.

Frank BarlettaPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • New York, NY
  • Posts 163
  • Votes 95

I also appreciate that you pointed out Syracuse is in New York State and is very "***" to investors/landlords. 

Post: Is Syracuse, NY really a dump?? Maybe not.

Frank BarlettaPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • New York, NY
  • Posts 163
  • Votes 95
Quote from @Stephen Schmitt:

This is fantastic research, and I would mostly agree with both of you, but as an investor and commercial/investment real estate agent in Syracuse I can confirm that we have the good and bad that comes with a lot of the cities in New York outside of NYC. There are definitely rougher areas in the city itself, however mostly they can be a couple of blocks more than an entire zip code so it is good to have local eyes for a potential purchase. 

While SU is a huge driver for the area, we have a lot of other economic drivers, including the two new Amazon facilities, but also newer companies such as TCGPlayer and Spincar, along with a multitude of new drone companies which are here for the expanding Tech Garden and the drone corridor which runs from Syracuse to Rome, NY.  

Micron is not 10 years away, site work is actively underway and construction should begin later this year or beginning of next. I have been busy with out of state investors but also housing developers and supply companies coming into the area. This is a $100 billion project that has brought the President a couple of times already, as well as international interest in the area. 

It seemed most of your great research was focused on the SU area only, but my biggest interest has been outside of those areas, especially north of the city. Rents for apartments and single family homes are up significantly, and I don’t see that trend ending any time soon: we are severely lacking in housing and available inventory. Also, SU has been building or buying up properties for students, which does cut into the student rental market. Almost independently from SU, Downtown Syracuse has been almost completely revitalized in the last 10 years, with waiting lists for rentals. I recently renovated a building downtown, and that investment paid off in spades. Our hospitals bring many people into the area, and we are going to see a tremendous increase in health care to take care of the 50,000 or more new residents that are projected to move here. 

One thing to keep in mind, NYS is a very tenant friendly state. We are constantly having to deal with the state’s newest laws which almost always are a net negative to landlords, however we just deal with it (not much we can do), and are still able to have great investments as long as you understand and keep up with the tenant laws. 

Please let me know if you have questions about the area. I have properties downtown and the surrounding area, and wish I had bought more! 


Appreciate the kind words and the local knowledge being shared. I saw a nugget around SU that I wanted to share with the community to be helpful, so I kept it short and sweet and hopefully tasty for others.


Post: Is Syracuse, NY really a dump?? Maybe not.

Frank BarlettaPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • New York, NY
  • Posts 163
  • Votes 95

All great points. Some of the data I mined on Syracuse was surprising, so I felt the need to share some here and help the community. 

Post: Is Syracuse, NY really a dump?? Maybe not.

Frank BarlettaPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • New York, NY
  • Posts 163
  • Votes 95
Let's not forget about Syracuse, NY (but just from an investment perspective).

Syracuse, a prominent city in New York, offers a rich tapestry of culture, history, and education, highlighted by institutions like Syracuse University. Known for its robust journalism program and spirited sports culture, the city also presents a variety of museums, such as the Everson Museum of Art and the Erie Canal Museum. Notably, Syracuse is recognized for its snowy winters, providing ample opportunities for winter sports enthusiasts. It is also a great place for flippers to make some $$$$$$.

Demographic Snapshot

  • Population Dynamics: Higher populations in zip codes 13208 and 13210 suggest a vibrant rental market, whereas 13224’s higher median income points to the potential for luxury real estate investments.
  • Age and Housing Needs: The younger demographics in zip codes 13204, 13205, and 13210 indicate a need for affordable, compact living spaces suitable for young singles and new families.

Age Demographics

  • Gen Z is actively moving to Syracuse, NY:

https://www.localsyr.com/news/gen-z-is-moving-to-major-cities-including-syracuse-why/

This migrational data is supported by search terms for jobs at Amazon being up 900% YoY:

Keyword Avg. monthly searches YoY change
amazon jobs syracuse ny 500 900%
amazon careers syracuse ny 500 900%

Market Analysis and Rent Trends

  • Rental Scene: There is a stark contrast in rental prices across the zip codes. For instance, zip code 13210 shows a substantial rental market with higher median rents, especially for larger units. This could indicate a premium market with potentially higher profit margins on flips.
  • Housing Structures: Zip code 13224 shows a high number of multi-family structures, particularly those with more than 50 units, suggesting a potentially saturated rental market or a demand for apartment living.
  • Market Outlook Combined with Google Search Data:
    • 13224: Witnessing a notable 53.7% surge in median sale prices for 4-bedroom homes and a 19.7% uptick for 5+ bedrooms reflects a buoyant market for larger residences. High search volumes for terms like "luxury apartments Syracuse NY" and "new apartments Syracuse NY" mirror the interest in upscale living spaces, particularly evident in this zip code. The uptick in multi-family construction, with 52 new units being permitted in 2024, underscores a growing preference for apartment living, further supporting upscale conversions or new developments.
    • 13210: The sales data shows a 28.5% increase in the price of 5+ bedroom homes, and other categories also saw price increases, such as a 15% increase in 2-bedroom homes, indicating healthy market conditions for larger family-oriented properties. This zip code has a high population density with a substantial portion of the population in age groups likely to rent (22 to 34 years and under 18 years), suggesting a steady demand for rental properties. Consistent search volumes for rental-related queries like "apartments for rent Syracuse NY" match well with the demographic profile, indicating ongoing interest in housing in this area.

Supply and Demand Dynamics

  • Building Permits: A notable surge in building permits in 2024, particularly for 2-unit and 5+ unit multi-family structures, notably in zip code 13224, signifies both growing demand and increasing supply, potentially influencing market prices.
2024
Total Units 56
Units in Single-Family Structures 4
Units in All Multi-Family Structures 52
Units in 2-unit Multi-Family Structures 32
Units in 3- and 4-unit Multi-Family Structures 0
Units in 5+ Unit Multi-Family Structures 20

Google Search Insights

  • Search Trends: The terms "luxury apartments Syracuse NY" and "new apartments Syracuse NY" show increased interest, particularly with searches peaking for new construction assets. This is especially relevant to zip code 13224, where there's evidence of higher-income demographics and an increased rate of new building permits, which correlates with a market that can sustain higher-end flips.

MoM change in searches

  • High Volume of Searches Related to Rentals: Keywords like "houses for rent Syracuse," "apartments for rent Syracuse NY," and "Syracuse apartments for rent" show a consistently high average monthly search volume of ~ 5,000. This suggests a strong ongoing demand for rental properties, which is critical for the real estate flipping market since it can indicate the ease of renting out or selling renovated properties.
  • Interest in Affordability and Accessibility: Searches for "affordable housing Syracuse NY" and "low income apartments Syracuse NY" are consistent, which aligns with the interest in more affordable and accessible housing options. This supports investment in zip codes like 13206, where median incomes are lower and there is a significant increase in sales volumes for more affordably priced homes.
Property Flipping Recommendations

Based on the analysis, here are the recommended zip codes for lucrative property flipping in Syracuse NY:

13210: High Rental Demand Area (71.76% renter occupied) High rental demand, especially for larger units, and substantial search interest in the area suggest strong market dynamics favorable for flipping houses.

  • Multi-bedroom homes, especially those with 4 or more bedrooms, as these have seen substantial appreciation. There is also an opportunity to target the rental market with renovations that cater to both families and young professionals given its large, diverse population and proximity to educational institutions.
  • Enhance properties to appeal to families and young professionals, focusing on durability and functionality, such as open-plan kitchens and multiple bathrooms.

Example Investment: 130 Benedict Ave, Syracuse, NY 13210

130 Benedict Ave, Syracuse, NY 13210 | Zillow

Located right next to the Syracuse University, and currently rented under market for $1,200 a month. Some light repairs, updates and potentially an addition, could see this worth $200K+ to an investor.

13224: Luxury Market Potential

Despite its high-income profile and significant building activity, there's increased interest in luxury and new apartments, indicating room for high-end property flips.

  • Focus on larger, multi-bedroom houses or convert them into high-end apartments. The data shows a significant appreciation in larger homes' prices and a notable interest in luxury and new apartments.
  • Invest in substantial renovations with high-quality finishes, modern amenities, and possibly smart home technology to attract the upper-end market. Consider expanding single-family homes into multiple units if zoning permits, to maximize ROI. The demographic is higher-income, and there is a robust increase in building permits for multi-family structures, suggesting a readiness for upscale, possibly expansive living spaces that could attract premium prices.

Specific Focus: Scottholm area offers lucrative opportunities with 4+ bed houses selling for $300K+ in the past 6 months.

13206: Emerging Market for Affordability

  • Target more affordable, multi-unit or single-family homes. There’s an observed increase in sales volumes and a moderate appreciation in house prices, coupled with a significant interest in affordable housing in the search data.
  • Opt for cost-effective updates that improve structural integrity and aesthetic appeal, such as new fixtures, fresh paint, and updated kitchens and bathrooms. Efficiency apartments or duplexes can be particularly appealing in this market, providing affordable yet attractive options for potential buyers or renters. With a lower median income but active market conditions, focusing on value-driven renovations that enhance living quality without the high-end price tag could be most effective here.
  • Veterans make up notable portions of the population in certain areas, such as in zip code 13206 where approximately 8.04% of the population are veterans. Develop housing solutions that cater specifically to the needs of veterans. This could involve creating accessible living spaces that are close to VA hospitals or clinics, community centers, and other veteran support services. Offering amenities that cater to older veterans, such as no-step entries, wider doorways, and emergency call buttons, could be advantageous.

Post: Your Policy on Hiring Friends???

Frank BarlettaPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • New York, NY
  • Posts 163
  • Votes 95
Quote from @Brandon Elliott-Pandey:

Though my years of hiring trades to work on my rental and friends/ family/ clients properties I have had it good and bad experiences. Property managers that over promise, work not fully completed to satisfaction, things not being installed correctly, etc. Again.... from professionals I haven't met and friends whom I know personally that run their own companies...

I am curious, what is your policy on hiring friends (whom own their own companies) to work on your properties? Do or Don't and why?


 Are we talking drinking friends or people you trust and have rapport with? All depends on the relationship, though I did hire a cigar / drinking buddy to do some contract work but this was only after I helped him sheetrock some walls and learned what he was capable of.

Post: is it a good time to buy single family rentals in Huntsville?

Frank BarlettaPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • New York, NY
  • Posts 163
  • Votes 95
Quote from @Alba Cheung:

Hi, 

     I've been searching in Huntsville for two months now. I've come across some single-family homes from the 1960s that have been on the market for a while. The sellers have already reduced the prices, but they're still higher than the estimates on Zillow. Do you think it's a good time to buy in Huntsville? I'm also considering multi-family properties. I'd really appreciate any advice, connections, or recommendations for a local agent.


Huntsville can be a solid market for single-family rentals, especially given its economic growth (tech and aerospace sectors specifically).

Here are a few things you should consider:

Homes from the 1960s, if well-maintained, can be solid investments, but ensure the price reductions align with current market values and potential ROI.
If not, it'll be like a buffalo taking a dump in your ear. 

Check recent sales and rental data beyond Zillow estimates to gauge true market value. Zillow is "fine" at best, but we all know there is a level of fudge in that.

Maybe multi-family properties can diversify your portfolio and potentially offer better cash flow? Not sure your strategy here but just throwing some ideas your way.

Check building permits to see what's happening in town. If you're interested, I can help with some of this.