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All Forum Posts by: Frank Barletta

Frank Barletta has started 14 posts and replied 161 times.

Post: Why I'd focus on Fix and Flip, not renting in Toledo, OH

Frank BarlettaPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • New York, NY
  • Posts 163
  • Votes 95

Honored to be called that! I own and operate STRs in the Hudson Valley NY area and have done fix and flips there as well. 

Wealth is built in a variety of ways. Not everyone wants to go down your path but let’s agree that real estate is one of the best paths.

Post: Why I'd focus on Fix and Flip, not renting in Toledo, OH

Frank BarlettaPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • New York, NY
  • Posts 163
  • Votes 95
Hey Dave — love this response and appreciate you taking the time to respond.

unfortunately someone is going to have to take on the burden of improving homes, whether it is a BRRRR or F&F strategy. Since everyone agrees this is a solid rental market, my counterpoint and my opinion is that based on data that I’ve found in my research, I would F&F to sell to investors. 

I think it’s unfair to suggest I’m telling people what to do here. I’m simply providing some insights and opinions based on data I’ve collected. 

Post: Why I'd focus on Fix and Flip, not renting in Toledo, OH

Frank BarlettaPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • New York, NY
  • Posts 163
  • Votes 95
Quote from @Bob Stevens:

BTW how many flips have you done in Toledo and Clev? 

Good luck 


 Thanks for being a fan, Bob! I do love research and feel it’s important to share the data used when giving an opinion. 

Disagreeing is great! Can you share some insights on CoC returns for the properties you own/operate? I'd love to compare to what I'm finding and would be a helpful learning experience for me.

I do want point out that not every investor wants to BRRRR and would like a turn key property which supports Fix and Flipping.

Post: Why I'd focus on Fix and Flip, not renting in Toledo, OH

Frank BarlettaPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • New York, NY
  • Posts 163
  • Votes 95
Quote from @Engelo Rumora:

Disagree here.

It's probably one of the better cashflow markets around.

Low entry price

High cashflow

Blue collar working class employed tenants

Online rent payments 

Well kept yards

Really great "Bang For Buck".

Other sub $100,000 markets are usually C class at best.

Toledo offers solid B class for sub $100,000 entry.

Thanks


I appreciate your insights here! Can you share the CoC you're seeing on your properties? Would love to know your margins and understand what high cash flow means to you!

What I’ve shared is based on research and data collected so would love to know what you’re seeing personally and how it could differ!

Post: Toledo, OH - The Unexpected House Flipping Dream

Frank BarlettaPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • New York, NY
  • Posts 163
  • Votes 95
Quote from @Engelo Rumora:

I love 43620

Only issue can be the Historic West End.

They have bi weekly pow wow meetings and decide on the share of pink that you can/can not use.

Beautiful huge character style homes.

Black Kite Coffee is awesome.

43610 is similar in style and without the Historic District requirement.

I'd give it a C+ to B- depending on the street.

Some streets on 43620 are A class for sure


I am reading people share about the pain of the historic district but the data tells part of a story and there is always more to learn. 

Thanks for sharing!

Post: Toledo, OH - The Unexpected House Flipping Dream

Frank BarlettaPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • New York, NY
  • Posts 163
  • Votes 95

Honestly, I would have never guessed that this market is actually not great for rental investments, but it is really strong for fixes and flips. Who knew?!

Here is the scoop:

About this Market: Toledo, OH emerges as a prime market for property flipping, thanks to its combination of affordable purchase prices, economic revitalization, and strong rental demand. The city's ongoing cultural and economic resurgence, supported by proactive local government incentives, enhances property values and attracts a growing population. Strategic geographical positioning near major Midwest cities further amplifies Toledo's appeal, offering investors significant ROI potential through both immediate flips and long-term rental strategies. With its diverse economic base stabilizing the rental market and a community-centric revitalization in full swing, Toledo stands out as a surprisingly lucrative market for real estate investors looking to maximize their investments.

Market Trends and Growth

Price Growth in 43620

  • Homes with 5+ Bedrooms: In the past year, these properties have shown a substantial increase in median sold prices, rising from $139.9K to $167.4K, a growth of 19.7%. This indicates a strong market demand and a promising opportunity for investors.

Days on the Market (DOM)

  • Reduced Sale Time: The average sale duration has decreased from 86 days to 67 days year-over-year. This improvement suggests a growing buyer interest and possibly limited inventory, creating favorable conditions for quick turnovers.

Toledo OH - RE Analysis (April 2024) - House Sales (1).pdf

Demographics and Economic Factors

Population and Economic Characteristics

  • Population Size: With a smaller population of 5,341, 43620 offers less competition in buying and selling, which is beneficial for flippers targeting niche market needs.
  • Income Levels: The lower median household income ($27,442) suggests a demand for affordable, refurbished homes—ideal for flipping projects aimed at cost-sensitive buyers.

Housing and Ownership Trends

  • Renter-Occupied Properties: A high percentage (68%) of renter-occupied properties indicates a transient population, potentially less targeted for flipping. However, converting these into desirable, owner-occupied homes could capture untapped market segments, particularly as economic conditions improve.

Age Distribution and Market Demand

  • Diverse Age Groups: The presence of young adults and an aging population suggests varied housing needs—from starter homes to downsizing options. Tailoring renovations to these demographics can maximize appeal and marketability.

Comparative Analysis with Surrounding Zip Codes

  • 43613 and 43615: These areas, with higher median incomes, might offer opportunities for higher-end flips but may also face stronger competition and higher property costs.
  • 43606 and 43608: While the potential exists, these zip codes may not experience the same level of market appreciation as 43620, which could affect profit margins.

Strategic Recommendations

Investment Focus in 43620

  • Cost-Effective Renovations: Focus on upgrades that enhance fundamental property values, such as kitchen and bathroom remodels and improvements in curb appeal. These will likely attract both renters looking to become homeowners and first-time buyers seeking affordable options.
  • Target Market: Position properties to appeal to the existing rental demographic and potential homeowners by offering competitively priced, well-renovated homes.

The big flip, but remember the 70% rule of flipping: 2032 Robinwood Ave, Toledo, 43620

This is the type of home that would work perfectly for the demand; however, it should be converted to a multifamily property, most likely a triplex. The most recent comp to sell was 2114 Robinwood Ave, Toledo, 43620, which was converted to a Triplex and sold on 8/4/2023.

Ensure that the purchase and renovation costs adhere to the 70% rule relative to the after-repair value (ARV), which is estimated at $250K for sound investment planning.


Thanks for reading. Feedback (good and bad) is a compliment, so feel free to drop me a line!

Post: Why I'd focus on Fix and Flip, not renting in Toledo, OH

Frank BarlettaPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • New York, NY
  • Posts 163
  • Votes 95

Honestly, I would have never guessed that this market is actually not great for rental investments and real strong for fix and flips. Who knew?!

Here is the scoop:

About this Market: Toledo, OH, emerges as a prime market for property flipping, thanks to its combination of affordable purchase prices, economic revitalization, and strong rental demand. The city's ongoing cultural and economic resurgence, supported by proactive local government incentives, enhances property values and attracts a growing population. Strategic geographical positioning near major Midwest cities further amplifies Toledo's appeal, offering investors significant ROI potential through both immediate flips and long-term rental strategies. With its diverse economic base stabilizing the rental market and a community-centric revitalization in full swing, Toledo stands out as a surprisingly lucrative market for real estate investors looking to maximize their investments.

Market Trends and Growth

Price Growth in 43620

  • Homes with 5+ Bedrooms: In the past year, these properties have shown a substantial increase in median sold prices, rising from $139.9K to $167.4K, a growth of 19.7%. This indicates a strong market demand and a promising opportunity for investors.

Days on the Market (DOM)

  • Reduced Sale Time: The average sale duration has decreased from 86 days to 67 days year-over-year. This improvement suggests a growing buyer interest and possibly limited inventory, creating favorable conditions for quick turnovers.

Toledo OH - RE Analysis (April 2024) - House Sales (1).pdf

Demographics and Economic Factors

Population and Economic Characteristics

  • Population Size: With a smaller population of 5,341, 43620 offers less competition in buying and selling, which is beneficial for flippers targeting niche market needs.
  • Income Levels: The lower median household income ($27,442) suggests a demand for affordable, refurbished homes—ideal for flipping projects aimed at cost-sensitive buyers.

Housing and Ownership Trends

  • Renter-Occupied Properties: A high percentage (68%) of renter-occupied properties indicates a transient population, potentially less targeted for flipping. However, converting these into desirable, owner-occupied homes could capture untapped market segments, particularly as economic conditions improve.

Age Distribution and Market Demand

  • Diverse Age Groups: The presence of young adults and an aging population suggests varied housing needs—from starter homes to downsizing options. Tailoring renovations to these demographics can maximize appeal and marketability.

Comparative Analysis with Surrounding Zip Codes

  • 43613 and 43615: These areas, with higher median incomes, might offer opportunities for higher-end flips but may also face stronger competition and higher property costs.
  • 43606 and 43608: While the potential exists, these zip codes may not experience the same level of market appreciation as 43620, which could affect profit margins.

Strategic Recommendations

Investment Focus in 43620

  • Cost-Effective Renovations: Focus on upgrades that enhance fundamental property values, such as kitchen and bathroom remodels and improvements in curb appeal. These will likely attract both renters looking to become homeowners and first-time buyers seeking affordable options.
  • Target Market: Position properties to appeal to the existing rental demographic and potential homeowners by offering competitively priced, well-renovated homes.

The big flip, but remember the 70% rule of flipping: 2032 Robinwood Ave, Toledo, 43620

This is the type of home that would work perfectly for the demand, however, this should be converted to a multifamily property most likely a triplex. The most recent comp to sell was 2114 Robinwood Ave, Toledo, 43620 which was converted to a Triplex and sold 8/4/2023.

Ensure the purchase and renovation costs adhere to the 70% rule relative to the after-repair value (ARV), which is estimated at $250K for sound investment planning.

Post: Toledo, OH - The Unexpected House Flipping Dream

Frank BarlettaPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • New York, NY
  • Posts 163
  • Votes 95

Honestly, I would have never guessed that this market is actually not great for rental investments, but it is really strong for fixes and flips. Who knew?!

Here is the scoop:

About this Market: Toledo, OH emerges as a prime market for property flipping, thanks to its combination of affordable purchase prices, economic revitalization, and strong rental demand. The city's ongoing cultural and economic resurgence, supported by proactive local government incentives, enhances property values and attracts a growing population. Strategic geographical positioning near major Midwest cities further amplifies Toledo's appeal, offering investors significant ROI potential through both immediate flips and long-term rental strategies. With its diverse economic base stabilizing the rental market and a community-centric revitalization in full swing, Toledo stands out as a surprisingly lucrative market for real estate investors looking to maximize their investments.

Market Trends and Growth

Price Growth in 43620

  • Homes with 5+ Bedrooms: In the past year, these properties have shown a substantial increase in median sold prices, rising from $139.9K to $167.4K, a growth of 19.7%. This indicates a strong market demand and a promising opportunity for investors.

Days on the Market (DOM)

  • Reduced Sale Time: The average sale duration has decreased from 86 days to 67 days year-over-year. This improvement suggests a growing buyer interest and possibly limited inventory, creating favorable conditions for quick turnovers.

Toledo OH - RE Analysis (April 2024) - House Sales (1).pdf

Demographics and Economic Factors

Population and Economic Characteristics

  • Population Size: With a smaller population of 5,341, 43620 offers less competition in buying and selling, which is beneficial for flippers targeting niche market needs.
  • Income Levels: The lower median household income ($27,442) suggests a demand for affordable, refurbished homes—ideal for flipping projects aimed at cost-sensitive buyers.

Housing and Ownership Trends

  • Renter-Occupied Properties: A high percentage (68%) of renter-occupied properties indicates a transient population, potentially less targeted for flipping. However, converting these into desirable, owner-occupied homes could capture untapped market segments, particularly as economic conditions improve.

Age Distribution and Market Demand

  • Diverse Age Groups: The presence of young adults and an aging population suggests varied housing needs—from starter homes to downsizing options. Tailoring renovations to these demographics can maximize appeal and marketability.

Comparative Analysis with Surrounding Zip Codes

  • 43613 and 43615: These areas, with higher median incomes, might offer opportunities for higher-end flips but may also face stronger competition and higher property costs.
  • 43606 and 43608: While the potential exists, these zip codes may not experience the same level of market appreciation as 43620, which could affect profit margins.

Strategic Recommendations

Investment Focus in 43620

  • Cost-Effective Renovations: Focus on upgrades that enhance fundamental property values, such as kitchen and bathroom remodels and improvements in curb appeal. These will likely attract both renters looking to become homeowners and first-time buyers seeking affordable options.
  • Target Market: Position properties to appeal to the existing rental demographic and potential homeowners by offering competitively priced, well-renovated homes.

The big flip, but remember the 70% rule of flipping: 2032 Robinwood Ave, Toledo, 43620

This is the type of home that would work perfectly for the demand; however, it should be converted to a multifamily property, most likely a triplex. The most recent comp to sell was 2114 Robinwood Ave, Toledo, 43620, which was converted to a Triplex and sold on 8/4/2023.

Ensure that the purchase and renovation costs adhere to the 70% rule relative to the after-repair value (ARV), which is estimated at $250K for sound investment planning.

Post: Reviewing Parma, OH for Investment Opportunities

Frank BarlettaPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • New York, NY
  • Posts 163
  • Votes 95
Quote from @Alfath Ahmed:

Hey Frank, I invest heavily in the Columbus market and work with out-of-state investors from both the east and west coast who love investing here. I specialize in both residential and multi-family real estate in the Columbus market. Below is a list of metrics that my out-of-state investors have looked into when choosing to invest here in the Columbus market.

Population Growth: Target cities with a minimum 1.5% YoY growth over the past 20 years and populations exceeding 100,000. (Use tools like loopnet, Costar demographics, and crime maps. Check with local governments for their economic plans.)

Job Growth: Prioritize areas with a minimum of 2% employment growth YoY for the past two decades. (Investigate the presence of Fortune 100 companies and industry diversity, using resources like metropolitan council reports and broker websites (e.g., CBRE, Colliers).)

Affordability: Ensure household income has grown at least 1% YoY for the past 20 years. Be wary if rents exceed 1/3 of average incomes.

Absorption/Vacancy: Consult National Association of Realtors for market time and inventory insights. Evaluate historical and current vacancy rates, aiming for decreasing trends.

Demographics: For younger populations, focus on proximity to parks and schools. For older demographics, consider the availability of medical centers, entertainment, and restaurants.

Buildings/Permits: Assess the city's growth compared to previous years.Determine if the city can accommodate future supply.

Government Regulations: Examine the city's efforts and the type of businesses they are targeting. Be cautious of cities that aren't proactive in job attraction; too much growth can lead to strict building regulations, affecting housing value.

Other Factors

- Favor cities with a crime index that has consistently decreased over a decade.

- For appreciation, I look for a minimum of 2.5% YoY growth in median house values over the past 20 years but I don't use this explicitly in calculations.




 Thank you for the thoughtful response! I agree on all the points you’ve shared and definitely use them for my research.

One question I wondered about was if people care about political affiliations (red/blue area).

Post: Reviewing the Rental Market Opportunity in Parma, OH

Frank BarlettaPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • New York, NY
  • Posts 163
  • Votes 95
Quote from @Ryan Arth:

It is the largest suburb in the state of Ohio. There is a wide spread of housing from the North to the South and a massive quantity of bungalows. Until last year it was serviced by three separate high schools and it has a community college branch located there as well. 


 Thank you, Ryan. I did see this in my research :)