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All Forum Posts by: Shiloh Lundahl

Shiloh Lundahl has started 247 posts and replied 2657 times.

Post: Where did all the meetups go!?

Shiloh Lundahl
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  • Gilbert, AZ
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Hi @Tiamo Wright I can appreciate you running interference on a critique of the BiggerPockets website, however, you missed the point that was being made.

Meetups used to be really encouraged several years ago and the link to find posted meetups was predominantly displayed and very easy to find right on the front page. Now there are advertisements predominately displayed. BiggerPockets has become a bigger business and therefore needs more revenue to sustain the higher expenses and profit, and it gets revenue from ad space, not from meetups. I get all of that.

Nevertheless, it is no longer easy to find local meetups on the BiggerPockets website and that is unfortunate for investors, especially new investors who would like to connect with other investors in their area. 

@Scott Trench what are your thoughts on this?

Post: 300k to build 1100 SF 3/2 ADU or invest in stock market

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@Victor Latimer I would definitely build an ADU in the back yard but I wouldn't build a 3 bedroom 2 bathroom home. I would either build a 2-bedroom home or 2 1-bedroom homes, or if I built a 3 bedroom 2 bathroom home, I would rent it out by the room. The reason is because a 3-bedroom home is for a family. That means that your backyard would be their front yard and the kids in the home would want to play so they would be playing in your backyard a lot. And it would have an impact on privacy and it would create noise. If you have a 1-bedroom or maybe even a 2-bedroom home then it likely won't attract families and you'll have people that are just looking for a place to live less expensively in a very expensive area and they don't need a lot of room and they likely won't be spending much time in your backyard. They'll probably just be walking from the home to their car and back each day. Building a one bedroom home will probably cost a ton less and it's more common than having a three bedroom home in the backyard. And you could probably still rent it out for $1500-$1800 a month.

When we lived in Burbank, California, we rented out our 300 square-foot studio guest house for $1500 a month. We had no issues with the tenant at all. In fact, the tenant became a good friend of ours and has since lent me money on some of my real estate deals even after he moved out and we sold that home. 

So I would definitely build the ADU, but I would do it smaller or figure out how to divide the space into more units.

Post: Where did all the meetups go!?

Shiloh Lundahl
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  • Gilbert, AZ
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I remember 6 or 7 years ago, the hosts of the BiggerPockets podcast would encourage investors to go to local meetups to meet with other local investors to network and learn about real estate investing in their areas. I don’t know if it is just me, but I have not heard a lot of encouragement these days about going to local meetups while listening to the podcasts.

On previous versions of the BiggerPockets website, it was a lot easier to find out where local meetups were being hosted because there was a link on the front page that read “meetups” and it would take you right to the meetup page where you could see a map where  people were having meetups in your area or in other areas across the country. It was fantastic for networking

I don’t know for sure, but it seems like at around the same time that BiggerPockets started hosting its own conferences and advertising boot camps and such that it became harder and harder to find where on the website that you could find local meetups.

This morning I searched the website to try to find where local meetups were posted on the website and it took me between 5 and 10 minutes to find it. And I was specifically looking for it. The location definitely was obvious, at least to me.

I’ve hosted monthly meetups in my area of Mesa, Arizona for around 7 years now and the majority of people that attended came from BiggerPockets. It’s been a long time since anyone came to my meetup that saw it advertised on the BiggerPockets website. At these meetups wholesalers found investors, investors found lenders, newbies found experienced investors and everyone got to learn  something. We would regularly have around 25 people show up every month.

So I’m wondering the reason why the link to the meetup section on BiggerPockets was taken off the front page and placed in a less obvious place on the website and why the map feature was removed.

Did anyone else notice this change? Or was it just me? If you search for the meetup section on the website how long does it take for you to find it? And would you say that finding it was obvious or not obvious

What are your thoughts?

Post: It's NOT a crash, and it's NOT a correction, I think it's this...

Shiloh Lundahl
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I keep hearing about a crash or a correction in the real estate market.  I don't think it is going to be a crash or a correction.  I think there are multiple things going on, but mostly I think it is the economy.  Let me explain. First, a correction would indicate that a value has artificially inflated to a higher price than it should be.  Most economists would call this a bubble and when it pops the prices come crashing down to the level where they should be. 

During the previous crash of 2006 - 2010, real estate really did experience a bubble. Credit was too easy to get and adjustable rate mortgages which adjusted higher than the mortgage holders could afford, caused people to start defaulting on their mortgages.  When the banks saw that there was a huge wave of defaults, they stopped lending so people that needed bank loans to buy a house were not able to buy houses.  Then, with so many people in the same situation, the housing market started to get flooded with houses.  So when you have the banks not lending and supply skyrocketing, the natural result is home prices go down until the supply eventually went away when people with cash started to gather up the supply.

Today the market is different.  Many people are in low rate, fixed loans so they don't have a fear that their mortgage will adjust to where they can't pay their mortgage any more.  And the people who were able to get loans in the last several years had to go through a difficult process of proving to the bank that they could repay the loans so the borrowers were more financially stable then the average borrower of 2006 to 2010.  So I don't foresee a not of real estate inventory hitting the market all at once.

But this is what I see.  Over the last several years, The United States printed 1/3 of the money supply.  And as you know when more money gets introduced into an economy, the prices of goods go up.  And if you introduce 1/3 of the money supply, it is not hard to understand why prices of things have gone up about 30% within just a few years. That includes house prices.  So a home that was worth $250,000 a few years back would probably be worth $330,000 to $350,000.  People might call that appreciation, to me it just looked the same as the inflation for everything else. So I don't see the VALUE of houses having gone up, but I do see the PRICE of the houses having gone up because the VALUE of the money has decreased.  And with wages not going up as quickly as inflation, what I see is people carrying balances on credit cards and not being able to spend money on things they used to be able to spend money on.  Eventually, people may start to default on their mortgage payments, not from a lack of being responsible, but because their basics of food, transportation, and medical, and insurance payments have all gone up. With not being able to make mortgage payments and needing to access the equity that was created over the past several years.  This may increase the housing supply on the market.  And with the housing supply increasing and the difficulty qualifying for a loan at 7% interest rates, people that need to sell may start to lower their cost.  This may be what happens in the market.  It's not a crash and it's not a correction.  I think the prices make sense considering the increase in the money supply. But I think they may come down a little with the extra supply from people that have to move and they are willing to lower the price to sell the home. 

That is my analysis.  What do you think?

Post: Meetup in Mesa, Arizona

Shiloh Lundahl
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  • Gilbert, AZ
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Hey everyone,

We will be hosting a meetup in Mesa, Arizona on Monday, June 24th from 7:30 pm to 9:30 pm.  At this meetup will will talk about current deals we are doing in the Arizona market and North Carolina market in today's market.  So if you are wondering how to make money in real estate in today's market then you will probably want to come to this meetup.  

We hope to see you there.

Post: Pace Morby’s Gator Lending - yay or nay?

Shiloh Lundahl
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Post: Pace Morby’s Gator Lending - yay or nay?

Shiloh Lundahl
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 @Curtis Tillmon It sounds like you have more first hand knowledge than me. What has your personal experience been and how much have you or people you personally know paid Pace?

Post: I'm ready to strategize!

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 @Alessa LeSar I am just going to be blunt. I think it is great that you have sold 20 houses last year but really, with that many houses that you sold, you should have more than 20k saved up right now unless you are living on that income.  And if so, then I can understand. Also, the information that you have learned as a realtor is great for being a realtor, but not necessarily great for being an investor.  In order to be a good investor, you have to think like an investor, not a realtor.  Also, you need to have whoever will be you end buyer or tenant in mind from the very start of the purchasing process.

Twenty thousand dollars is a good start but also not a lot to get started with.  It is possible to do it without any of your own money, but not unless you have experience.  Without experience and without much cash it is more difficult.  However, difficult is my middle name, or so my wife tells me (just kidding).  

First you need access to more capital. You can do this through the HELOC that you mentioned. But you make not be able to take out much even if you have 80k in equity. A lot of banks only want to give you a HELOC up to 80% of the value of the home. So if your home is 300k and you own 220k, the bank would probably only be willing to give you a loan up to 240k, which would only be another 20k. With that being said, even at an interest rate of 8% or 9%, it is still 20k more than you had before, so I would say to go get the HELOC.

Next, start talking with banks and other lenders that work with real estate investors.  Find these banks through connections that you have made by going to meetups in your area and asking people who they use for long term financing.  This is very important because you will need to have an exit strategy when you get an investment property to either sell it as a flip or to refinance it as a rental. So you will need to work with some lenders that will do the refinance with you.  And there are specific strategies to use when buying the property so that when you refinance it, you don't have to leave a lot of money into the deal. These strategies include buying the property well under market value and then forcing equity through rehabbing. Be careful not to over rehab the property.  Most new investors lose money because they put too much into the rehab or they don't buy it at enough of a discount or they overestimate what they can sell it for. You should get onto a lot of wholesaler lists and analyzing deals so that you can start recognizing what a good deal in your area looks like. Don't buy the first property that looks good.  Take a month or so of analyzing deals consistently in order to make sure you are really recognizing good deals.  If you only have a little money to begin with then your margin of error is smaller than if you had more money to start out with.  So you can only afford to get really good deals. Also don't get a deal that needs too much work at the beginning. That could be too risky for your first deal.

Next, search the internet for 0% interest credit cards.  Apply for a couple in your name and a couple in the name of your spouse.  Include estimated household income on both applications but don't include both names on both applications.  The reason being is because the debt will count against both of you if the cards are in each of your names.  These credit cards can help out with the repairs.  Make sure you make the monthly payments on time and use the cards in the person's name that won't be getting the loan or the opposite person's name that will be getting the loan.  This is because maxing out credit cards will bring the credit score down and it could affect you getting the loan at the end. 

Truthfully, there are a lot of nuances about getting the refinance that is too long to write about here but take time to learn about it because it is very important. It's probably one of the most important steps in the process. What you don't want to have happen is you buy a property for 120k where a hard money lender gives you 100k and you bring in your 20k to buy the property and then you use the credit cards or the HELOC to put 30k into fixing up the property and now it is worth 200k and the bank is only willing to refinance 80% of what you bought it for, plus rehabbed it for, which would only be about 120k, because then you would need to leave in 30k plus the 2 sets of closing costs so you now have 40k left in the deal. So even though you created 40-50k en equity, now you have a balance on the credit cards still and you have your HELOC maxed out too. That is no muy bueno. That is malo (bad). So instead of buying the property at 120k, you will want to buy the property at 170k with a 50k rehab credit (this is an advanced strategy that works wonderfully but that most people don't do or know how to do). The rehab credit is shown on both sides of the settlement statement so they cancel each other out but it increases the purchase price to 170k. Then when you put 30k into repairs the total purchase price plus repairs is 200k which is where the appraisal comes in. Then, when you get the loan, you are able to get the loan for 75% or 80% of the 200k so you now get a loan for 150k or 160k, and you only leave maybe 10k into the deal.

This way you have a property where you have taken your 20k, you used some HELOC money and credit card money that both got paid off when you refinanced the property and you still have about 10k of your original 20k that you started out with and now you have a cash flowing rental that also has about 40k in equity.

That's how you do it.

Good luck.

Post: I'm Buying Negative Equity Properties and I'm Excited About It

Shiloh Lundahl
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  • Gilbert, AZ
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@Andrew McGuire It is possible to still find deals in Arizona today. So far I have purchased 5 or 6 properties this year. I’m holding most of them and flipping 1 or 2 of them.  

Here is the one I am flipping:

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/23685-N-Desert-Agave-St-F...

I bought it for 235k and put about 25-30 into it. Plus I have held it for a few months with hard money. So my total into it is property around 275k. I plan to sell it for around 340k and make about 50k on the deal.

Post: Who is investing in STR in Costa Rica?

Shiloh Lundahl
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  • Gilbert, AZ
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I have bought 3 properties there with other investors over the past 2 years. 

We own a property in the mountains on 2 1/2 acres that has 3 houses with 9 bedrooms and can sleep 24 people.

Our second house is on the beach off of Playa Avellanas. It is a 6 bedroom property that sleeps 28 people.

our last purchase is in La Fortuna and it is an awesome property that is in the process of being remodeled with another story on top. It will have 10 bedroom and 13 bathrooms.

Here are some pictures. I’m happy to answer questions that you have.