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All Forum Posts by: Amit M.

Amit M. has started 18 posts and replied 1524 times.

Post: California Vs Out of State (really, but why?)

Amit M.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 1,576
  • Votes 1,618

@Carlos Ptriawan so how do you think the advent of remote work impacts your engineers-will-go-where-jobs-are thesis, if more and more engineering jobs can be done remotely?

Post: California Vs Out of State (really, but why?)

Amit M.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 1,576
  • Votes 1,618

Oh fun, the CA appreciation vs everywhere else in the USA. Man there are tons of archived threads on this topic from several years ago. Worth rereading imo!

As someone who did very well with San francisco RE over the last two decades, my sentiment has been of course with prime and costal CA, and it has worked wonders for me. I basically benefited from this:

…And there is another leg up from 2017-2021 btw :)

But the question now is what will be best going forwards 10-15 years. Certainly if you own appreciated CA rentals in great locations (i.e. professional tenant base), you’re golden. Just sit and enjoy it, which is what I’m doing. But I’m more cautious about buying, especially now in prime Bay Area. OTOH I also wonder if recent high flying markets like Austin Boise, Vegas, etc., etc. are merely going to “correct” 10-15%, or will they see a 2008-9 GFC correction of 30-40%. There are just so many crucial macro economic factors at play right now such as inflation, interest rates, economic growth, global slowdown, etc. Not to mention the national migration trends that were borne out of Covid. We’re already starting to see some zealots who relocated out of CA roll back after suffering searing hot summers, lack of cultural variety, bland geographies, etc. And work from home is getting some challenges from employers. So anything-goes-party-time is over at least for some, and winter is rolling in (both economically and metaphorically.) Plus at the end of the day, yes there is more tech in other states, but the Bay Area is still the primary tech playing field, it’s just not as one sided as it was prior to the pandemic.  

Personally I’m still pro Bay Area CA on long term values, which is why I’m keeping mine. But I’d just sit back and see how 2023 plays out before making any new moves. So I’ll answer your question the way Bob Dylan would…the answer my friend is blowing in the wind, the answer is blowing in the wind. 

Post: Pure DST vs. DST-721 UPREITs

Amit M.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 1,576
  • Votes 1,618

@Jon Taylor good point about the history of TIC and DSTs.
So I gather then that TIC failures post 2008 were quite high (notwithstanding their awkward voting structure)? Do you have any idea what that fail percentage was?

Post: Pure DST vs. DST-721 UPREITs

Amit M.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 1,576
  • Votes 1,618

@Jon Taylor I appreciate your input and perspectives on DSTs. Here is what I’m wondering: historically how have DSTs fared during down markets vs up markets. I’d like to know what percent of DSTs formed and marketed during say 2007-09 (pre Great Recession) made a decent return vs DSTs formed during 2014-18 (boom times). Do you have any sources or info to try and ascertain that? Remember folks, were likely entering some sort of recessionary or contracting economy, so having that data that would be telling!

Post: DST as possible holding place for gains

Amit M.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 1,576
  • Votes 1,618

Or you could get several helocs. They give you a lot of flexibility w/o committing to a monthly payment unless you use them. Given how absolutely bonkers the world is now*, having ready money on the sidelines isn’t a bad thing imo :) 

*ohh, just Covid remnants, Ukraine war potential spillover, interest rate hikes, high national debt, climate change effects, red-blue state tensions, market high real estate, stock market uncertainty.  Lots of tinder around to light the sh!thouse on fire imo in the next few years. Hard for me to see how we navigate all that unscathed (and there’s more- rampant social media misinformation, bitcoin, US dollar as reserve in question, China autocracy, and of course there’s still the Middle East…and oil.)

So if something big happens you have the option to cower and cover your head, knowing you have access to more emergency heloc funds, or go big and bold and make new investments in unprecedented times. 
————-

my2c

Post: DST as possible holding place for gains

Amit M.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 1,576
  • Votes 1,618

@Kenneth LaVoie I'd be careful of NNN properties. Cap rates are really low (compressed) now, so you're really paying a premium. Rates are going up. What happens when you want to sell it later and rates are higher? (Property value will go down, as you're getting a lower rate now.) And yes, if you get a vacancy, it can kill your cash flow for a long time. Especially at $1.4 mil, you're not getting prime NNN. Plus all the changes in retail going on. Lots of risk imo.

I recently excited some properties I didn’t want to manage anymore, and ultimately decided to pay the cap gains. I used the profits to pay off existing loans on prime properties I do want to hold(er) term. I’d rather rid myself of a 4% payment, then risk getting into another property where I still have to deal with loans.

Yeah paying cap gains has a cost, but we’re at top of market now, and rates are guaranteed to go up soon. I’d think of the risk side very carefully now, as I believe we’re going into an economic cycle that’s going to hurt a lot of current RE investors. Will it be excessive inflation? A recession (deflation)? Or (hopefully not) worse of both, stagflation!

Good luck and let us know what you decide to do.

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my2c

Post: DST, 1031, exit strategy, retirement advice

Amit M.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 1,576
  • Votes 1,618

@Dennis L. I think you’ll get a lot out of reading this thread

https://www.biggerpockets.com/...

Post: Why I love being a Passive Investor in Syndications (30% IRR!!)

Amit M.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 1,576
  • Votes 1,618

Aren't DST's essentially syndication deals, but with much lower returns (though they do accommodate 1031 exchanges)? So essentially you're saving on capital gains, but getting lower returns for that capability.
Tomato tomāto?

Post: Considering moving from SFH to house hacking in SF / Bay Area

Amit M.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 1,576
  • Votes 1,618

  quick tip: Check out 1670 Kirkwood Ave, SF. It’s a great house hack option, per the listing info on it. 

Post: Is a 5MM 15+ unit MF in San Fran too much for my 1st investment?

Amit M.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 1,576
  • Votes 1,618

Or, you may want to house hack something easier to manage while still generating income. Look at 1670 Kirkwood Ave in SF