Skip to content
×
Try PRO Free Today!
BiggerPockets Pro offers you a comprehensive suite of tools and resources
Market and Deal Finder Tools
Deal Analysis Calculators
Property Management Software
Exclusive discounts to Home Depot, RentRedi, and more
$0
7 days free
$828/yr or $69/mo when billed monthly.
$390/yr or $32.5/mo when billed annually.
7 days free. Cancel anytime.
Already a Pro Member? Sign in here
Pick markets, find deals, analyze and manage properties. Try BiggerPockets PRO.
x
All Forum Categories
All Forum Categories
Followed Discussions
Followed Categories
Followed People
Followed Locations
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback

All Forum Posts by: Sean Dawson

Sean Dawson has started 15 posts and replied 132 times.

Post: Meet ups in Columbus Ohio?

Sean DawsonPosted
  • Investor
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 134
  • Votes 48

@Julian Mcclurkin Stop by a meeting of COREE.  It's the local REA group that has it's main meetings the first Tuesday of the month, and then has subgroups Thursdays.  Lot's of folks with tons of experience there.  Still learn something new each time I go.  Well worth it.

Post: looking for a handyman in Columbus

Sean DawsonPosted
  • Investor
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 134
  • Votes 48

I second Bob tennant. Good work, fair price.   Adam gave you his number above

Post: 2-4 unit Multifamily Turnkey Companies

Sean DawsonPosted
  • Investor
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 134
  • Votes 48

@Ryan Haley, which side of Barnett was that on?  North of Main was much worse than the one South of Main.  Although since you're talking about 4 plexes I'm assuming it the North side.  Glad you went and took a look before buying them.  

Post: Deal Analysis in Columbus Ohio_First Purchase

Sean DawsonPosted
  • Investor
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 134
  • Votes 48

@Nima Fatemi, at 1 BR that $1000 rent looks to be too high.  If you make the downstairs into another bedroom, well then, that's another story

Post: Possible deals in Columbus, OH

Sean DawsonPosted
  • Investor
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 134
  • Votes 48

@Sarah Wheeler, yes,  investing can be a bumpy ride.  But I wonder why you sent me a message a month ago asking "

Hi Sean!

I saw that I had a profile view from you. Can I answer any questions for you about Columbus investing or property management?

Please let me know.

Thank you!"

When I was already a client ( at that time) of your PM company.  You did not even know that we were current clients!  Like I said something had changed at Panzera and we've gone our separate way

@Trent Ecklar rates are low, but prices are higher to compensate.  As a side note, when I purchased my first duplex I had horrible credit.  Paid 12% interest, and that was in 2000!  Crazy thinking about it now.  But even then I made it work.  Ate a lot of Ramen, but made it work.

  • @Matt Smith, cheaper houses in less stellar spots sometimes require more hands on work.  We self manage some of our properties in the OSU and Bexley area.  Those place are mostly grad students (at least the spots we are in) and are not too much of a bother.  

I'd stay away from the Westside personally. True, prices are great there, but unless you really want to be hands and do it yourself, it would not, in my opinion, be worth it to have a PM manage a couple of SFH there.

  • yes, we've put that much down for rentals.  Except of course when we lived in a place then it wasn't as much.  
  • well,you've seen my review of our previous PM.  With your time here I think you should be able to make some connections with handymen, contractors etc.. and use them when you move back.  With all the software out there tenants can log on and pay, send work requests, etc.  Showing the property would be the problem, but even then, agents can do that for a fee.
  • Dont know about any additional expenses.  Talk to @Jason Bott about the insurance side.  Good guy

Good luck

Post: Possible deals in Columbus, OH

Sean DawsonPosted
  • Investor
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 134
  • Votes 48

@Angela Yan you sure said it about PM being like a marriage!  We just ended our relationship.  I would like to give my view as an investor that used Panzera Realty.

In 2016 we decided to purchase more properties in Columbus we looked on Bigger pockets for recommendations. People had talked about Panzera and we looked into them. David was personable, and knowledgeable of the market then. We purchased a 12 unit thru his company and he managed them.

Things have changed though. As of last month we are no longer with them. While the management went fine for awhile, we always had the feeling that although we were the owners and should have final say in things, David ran his business his way and was not as responsive to our concerns. Three big issues finally made the decision to leave them easy.
  The first issue was turnovers. While the units looked nice after they were done, the turnovers took entirely too long. Painting, putting in new interior doors or locks, laying down allure flooring were what most of the units needed. Some needed new vanity's' and stoves but nothing too crazy.  That had been an ongoing issue which we communicated with Panzera about rectifying, to pretty much lip service, nothing material had changed. This past summer we had 3 units go vacant around the same time. The last unit was not even started for over 29 days. His response was he was trying to spread the income and expense. He did not talk to us about that, just did it on his own. We had the funds set aside and the units needed to be turned and tenant placement began. His estimation of market rents were great, but not getting people signing the leases. After demanding the leases lowered from his idea of $715 to ours of $675 tenants began looking at the units again and signed.   When we first bought the property rents were low due to the old owner not paying attention, David did raise them during his time from there though. It's cold comfort to us to have at market rents but not have people (during this time period) not in the units for over 80 days, 60 days and 50 days. You cannot make up the missed rents from that time with the increase in rents.
 Second main issue was a letter delivered to us from an exterminating vendor David had not paid. The letter stated they were taking legal action against us sine David had not paid them for work done at our property. We had no clue of this. I called the company and found out that 8 months prior they were out there to perform work.  They provided documents and I spoke with David about it. He said they did not perform the work and would not pay for work not performed. Once again he did not mention any of this to us, he took this action without any consultation with us, or thought of the ramifications on our property. The owner of the exterminating company said Panzera had done this with many of their properties. I asked David to provide any info and his response was" We have quite a bit of emails and notes that we are working on putting together. This will take a bit of time", but none were provided to us.
  We had made the decision to part ways with Panzera at that time and tried to close things out. 
Last problem was actually after we notified we were leaving. Panzera does in-house water meter reading and billing. We switched over to Guardian but a tenant had a question about the last water bill that Panzera provided. Since I do not see the bills I asked him 3 time and my wife asked him to provide the bill. He would not do so. No reason given, just no. I went to his office to get the bills and he would not provide them, not any readings. Again he would not give a reason. Just kept saying we are no longer a client, even though though we were at the time of the billing, reading and when we initially asked for the readings/bills.  We are still baffled as to why he would not do this.

I am not sure what has changed with Panzera but something surely has. In all, our experience  has left a bad taste in our mouths and would not recommend them. 

ugh. safe thread.  day 1

Post: Columbus vs Cleveland

Sean DawsonPosted
  • Investor
  • Columbus, OH
  • Posts 134
  • Votes 48

Well, one good thing about multifamily you have more possibilities to force appreciation where as single family you're at the will of the market.  

We have MFH in both markets.  I like Columbus better since it's where we started.  Our venture into Cleveland is not playing out as we expected at the moment.  Although it is nice to write off the trip to look at the property ( and see family).

Thanks for the replies. 

No, this was not disclosed in the management agreement.  This is a fee that is charged to the tenant.

The problem as I see it , other than what other fees are out there that have not been disclosed, is that the tenant has to come up with more money to rent one of our places.  1st months rent, security deposit and this fee may have qualified tenants looking elsewhere to rent where there is not an additional fee.  

@Kim Meredith Hampton, we manage some of our own properties in the town we live in so I am well aware of what it takes to lease a unit.  That is what the 1 months rent fee for renting the unit should cover in our opinion.  

This is not a fee that I see in our market hence my questioning of it.  

I posted this in the regional subsection, but figured here would get more responses.  We have a property that has become available for rent at the beginning of December. I have been looking around at the listings on craigslist, hotpads, zillow and noticed there is a $225 "Administrative Move In fee" listed. This fee is not disclosed in the PM's contract. There is a full months rent though that is listed for placing a tenant. I have asked but have not gotten an answer from the PM about this.

This is not a fee that I am familiar with and seems like it could be stopping potential tenants from renting the units. Is anyone familiar with this?  

Thanks