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All Forum Posts by: Karen Parker

Karen Parker has started 17 posts and replied 384 times.

Post: 3 1/2 more years of this left... but what about the next 4 after

Karen ParkerPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Tampa, FL
  • Posts 456
  • Votes 42
Originally posted by jawsette:
If it is your contention that it is the money is the control factor then it would mean that they would have to be able to survive without the need of any federal monies.

If they can do this today then they will be able to thwart any federal influence that those monies would bring just as those companies that were bailed out with the feds monies did not have to accept it and the control that the feds got over thier business at the same time.

It is a simple concept, but not always simple in its application today.


I agree. And a lot of that is because of the way our economy is so interdependent today. And not just within the United States but also our trade with other countries. There would still need to be some type of overall governing body to regulate these things both with the Federal government controlling the states that remained under its control and with other countries. Needless to say it would make things go much smoother if it were a cooperative effort. There does seem to be a segment of the population who prefers large controlling government who makes all of their decisions for them. It seems the country is very divided at this point in time and it seems the natural solution would be to separate.

Post: 3 1/2 more years of this left... but what about the next 4 after

Karen ParkerPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Tampa, FL
  • Posts 456
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Originally posted by jawsette:
In view of that Karen, then you would have that things are not the way the founding fathers intended them to be, because of the civil war, as that Eddies vews of things are NOW more in line with the way things are currently.
So his statement of naivity is now currently approiate to your view of how things should work. I can not blame him for those REALITY views but will discuss any time the fathers intentions and how it is possible to return to them GIVEN todays complex factors that were not invisioned by the founding fathers.



And what would be your suggestion to do so without tearing this country apart with another war. I'm genuinely interested as I work with several states rights and sovereignty groups who wish for a peaceful separation of the those states that seek it from the federal government.

Post: U.S. & CHINA Ponzi Scheme?

Karen ParkerPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Tampa, FL
  • Posts 456
  • Votes 42
Originally posted by Jesse R:
Originally posted by Karen Parker:

That's right. That's what we have running the country. The insane that will mortgage us right out to another country.



I guess the media hasn't heard of this either. I can't recall FOX, CNN, or MSNBC giving this much coverage.


Originally posted by Karen Parker:
It also mentions that China can come in and take any property, mine, yours, cites, states and the US has agreed to relocate those citizens who may be affected anywhere they want whether you like it or not. Free country? Where?


I'd like to see them try. Then maybe, and I mean maybe, the american people will stand up and unite for a cause that is meaningful and important to them and their grandchildren.

Too bad they didn't do it before now. I've been hoping for it for a while. Some people, nameless but who also posted on here lol! thinks I'm a nut in thinking this country is ready for a major show down. But I am involved with a couple of states rights and sovereignty groups and it isn't just southern states that are are ready for "Change" lol!

Post: 3 1/2 more years of this left... but what about the next 4 after

Karen ParkerPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Tampa, FL
  • Posts 456
  • Votes 42
Originally posted by jawsette:
Karen, if you look back into history, this federal rights vs states rights was what the civil war was about. And since the south lost that war it has been federal rights as supreme ever since.

The constitution was made so as to consider states rights as supreme and that has not been the case since the civil war in all reality. We can not change that history but only work to limit the influence of the feds upon the states.

It is sad, but this is the way that it is now.


I'm aware of that. You're right, you can't change history but you CAN change the future.

Post: U.S. & CHINA Ponzi Scheme?

Karen ParkerPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Tampa, FL
  • Posts 456
  • Votes 42
Originally posted by Jesse R:
Originally posted by Eddie Ziv:
Get your Wheelbarrow ready. It will take a whole lots of cash to buy that loaf of bread...



It's amazing to me that that this isn't a bigger issue to people.
Whether you're a democrat, republican, latino, asian, or alien this is an issue that we should all be worried about.

Looks like it's time to begin stockpiling on oil, gold, and the all mighty euro.



People won't listen and don't care. Got their idiotic noses stuck in some ball game. Can't be bothered with saving their country, their homes and the freedom of their children. Brain dead sheep.

Post: U.S. & CHINA Ponzi Scheme?

Karen ParkerPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Tampa, FL
  • Posts 456
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Originally posted by Jesse R:
Eminent Domain rights to the U.S.!

Wow, I'm surprised I haven't heard of this. Makes sense though.
So, if they wanted to, they could come knocking anytime and take a good portion of us over?

Insane.....



That's right. That's what we have running the country. The insane that will mortgage us right out to another country. It also mentions that China can come in and take any property, mine, yours, cites, states and the US has agreed to relocate those citizens who may be affected anywhere they want whether you like it or not. Free country? Where?

Post: 3 1/2 more years of this left... but what about the next 4 after

Karen ParkerPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Tampa, FL
  • Posts 456
  • Votes 42
Originally posted by Eddie Ziv:
Originally posted by Karen Parker:
And this is the way it should be. That's why I am always pushing so hard on states rights issues. I'm really sick to death of having the Fed come in and coerce the states into passing BS laws by threatening to cut funding for this and funding for that if they do not comply. I say the states should tell the Fed fine, shove it up you *** and we just won't send you any more money from this state.

This is very naive statement Karen. It assume that all states, if not created equal, are equal. The sad fact is that they are not.
The federal goverment would not be able to survive without California, Texas, Florida, and some other revenue producing states. (Bad economy or not) but the rest of them are too small to survive without some handout from the Fed. They cannot afford the luxory of losing it.


Its not all that naive if you're in one of those states and have been subjected to that type of BS. You'd think that the Fed being unable to survive without those 3 biggies, they wouldn't work so hard to piss them off.

Post: 3 1/2 more years of this left... but what about the next 4 after

Karen ParkerPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Tampa, FL
  • Posts 456
  • Votes 42
Originally posted by Eddie Ziv:
Karen, read my statement carefully. I didn't talk about ideologies. I talked about goverment and what I described as the acusation of socielist infestation. Last time I checked, the goverment was controlled by either the republicans or the democrats which suposdly represent two diferent ideologies. Both sides spend our money and the question is who spend on what. Althogh an argument can be made that any goverment(Regardless of party afiliation) would find reason to spend you hard earning dollars and be ready to be surpised, including Ron Paul.


I'm not arguing that point. But some will spend more of it than others and that has been shown in just the past few months. And I if read correctly, your statement said: "History shows that the only different between the right and the left is the appropriation of that money." It still isn't clear that your were speaking only of the appropriation of money.

Post: U.S. & CHINA Ponzi Scheme?

Karen ParkerPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Tampa, FL
  • Posts 456
  • Votes 42

Interesting you should bring this up. I was just discussing this very thing on a different post on the forum. I'm not sure its as cut and dry as what they make it out to be even in that article. One thing he neglects to mention is that China has been given eminent domain rights to the US. On the other post I was discussing the probability of their "foreclosing" in which case maybe you can trade in some of those US dollars at a discount rate for Chinese currency. I suppose one could trade their US dollars for other currencies but with all the world markets tied so closely together I'm not sure it would be of any benefit. It seems if one falls, we all fall.

Post: 3 1/2 more years of this left... but what about the next 4 after

Karen ParkerPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Tampa, FL
  • Posts 456
  • Votes 42
Originally posted by jawsette:
As far as the constitution goes, most people do not understand that it was only the Federal Government that was prohibited from any religious formation.

The States and Local levels were not prohibited from such as far as the beginning constitution is concerned. And several communities did have their own requirements in the beginning. I know that it is not being applied this way currently, but as far as constiutuional law is concerned from the beginning it was only the Federal government that this was applied to as they were to be concerned with the outside forces and the internal forces were left to the States and Local governments.

This was so that each community and State could have their own beliefs wanted by their peoples without it affecting the entire United States.


And this is the way it should be. That's why I am always pushing so hard on states rights issues. I'm really sick to death of having the Fed come in and coerce the states into passing BS laws by threatening to cut funding for this and funding for that if they do not comply. I say the states should tell the Fed fine, shove it up you *** and we just won't send you any more money from this state.