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All Forum Posts by: Travis Beehler

Travis Beehler has started 17 posts and replied 300 times.

Post: Does Investing Cause Problems with Family/ Friends for You?

Travis BeehlerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Vancouver, WA
  • Posts 308
  • Votes 144

I've found certain members of the family all of a sudden start to think that it's ok to come at me asking for loans when they haven't spoken to me in years.  They have zero collateral, have been known to do as little as possible in life to make their own lives better, and want to make others pay their way.

Those people are always told a very firm No.

I'm working my *** off full time, have a baby on the way, working on building my portfolio, and have about an hour or two a night to myself if I'm lucky to relax, before I have to do it all over again.  So, I'm not about to start handing money out to people who are clearly users.

Post: Landlord breaking lease

Travis BeehlerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Vancouver, WA
  • Posts 308
  • Votes 144

I'd say take a look at the lease.  Does it talk about the ramifications of breaking the lease on the tenants side?  That would be the first place I'd look.  Generally, you'll want to stick with the lease though unless circumstances are extreme enough to warrant the breaking of it.

Post: What's the average rental time for your properties?

Travis BeehlerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Vancouver, WA
  • Posts 308
  • Votes 144

I don't have a definitive answer either as I don't have that much data to go on, but 3 years seems to be my average so far.

Post: Finally! Got closed on my second deal!

Travis BeehlerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Vancouver, WA
  • Posts 308
  • Votes 144
Originally posted by @Anthony Gayden:
Originally posted by @Travis Beehler:

 Nice!  You're EXACTLY where I was when I went into this deal.  Over 100k a year, 818 credit score, $51k in cash, and 25% down.

How has owner financing been treating you?  Have you been able to find lots of people who are in a position to do that?  How do you find people who can do owner financing?  What are the terms you typically use?  Feel free to PM me that if you don't want to share publicly. :)

Thanks!  Have a good weekend!

 Oddly enough, there are more people willing to do owner financing than you would think. Other investors who own their properties outright really like the idea. I have found that the easiest way to find these deals is simply by asking everyone. I have looked at three other properties recently, and 2 out of those 3 were willing to do owner financing, but I had to ask to find out. 

The terms I am using for the deal I have now are 20% down (he was willing to do 10% down at a higher interest rate), 30 year amortization, 5.5% interest and a 5 year balloon (he was willing to do 10 years, but at a higher interest rate).

 Ah nice!  Yeah, most of the places I look (Zillow, mls, etc.) if they advertise seller financing, the place is usually a dump with bullet holes in the walls and blood stains on the carpets. :)  I think I might just give that a try!  Thanks!

Post: Finally! Got closed on my second deal!

Travis BeehlerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Vancouver, WA
  • Posts 308
  • Votes 144
Originally posted by @Anthony Gayden:
Originally posted by @Travis Beehler:

 US Bank?  Because that's exactly what they were wanting.  $160k deal, $65k cash to get the loan.

 No it was Bank of America. I literally hung up on the loan officer when I heard that ridiculous amount. I should mention that I have earnings of over $100,000/yr and my credit score is over 800. I called the bank thinking I was a shoe-in for a loan because I had $40,000 cash, and wanted to put 20% down. Apparently I am just too much of a risk. 

The good news is that because of that, I stepped out into the world of creative financing, and am now buying the property via owner financing.

 Nice!  You're EXACTLY where I was when I went into this deal.  Over 100k a year, 818 credit score, $51k in cash, and 25% down.

How has owner financing been treating you?  Have you been able to find lots of people who are in a position to do that?  How do you find people who can do owner financing?  What are the terms you typically use?  Feel free to PM me that if you don't want to share publicly. :)

Thanks!  Have a good weekend!

Post: Finally! Got closed on my second deal!

Travis BeehlerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Vancouver, WA
  • Posts 308
  • Votes 144
Originally posted by @Anthony Gayden:
Originally posted by @Travis Beehler:


My second bank wanted 25% down, plus 6 months worth of reserves for the properties, plus 6 months worth of reserves for my other properties, plus 6 months worth of reserves for my primary residence (even though it was a commercial loan), plus 6 months worth of my credit card payments, plus the tax returns of the seller, plus the lease agreements with the current tenants.

I had that exact experience when trying to buy my third property. They wanted a ridiculous amount of documentation, and huge reserves. I was trying to buy a $170,000 four plex and they wanted me to have nearly $65,000 cash to get a loan.

 US Bank?  Because that's exactly what they were wanting.  $160k deal, $65k cash to get the loan.

Post: Finally! Got closed on my second deal!

Travis BeehlerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Vancouver, WA
  • Posts 308
  • Votes 144
Originally posted by @Michael S.:

Congrats on the second deal. Persistence really pays off. 

 Indeed!  I had so many obstacles in this deal, I started to have doubts.  It's easy to say "Hey, I got $35k in my account, I could pay off everything and have zero debt", but then I'd have no income from the investment.  My friends either think I'm nuts, or they all of a sudden want to hitch their wagon to mine.  :)

Post: Finally! Got closed on my second deal!

Travis BeehlerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Vancouver, WA
  • Posts 308
  • Votes 144

Hey all!

I've been in the middle of a 4 SFH deal for months now, dealing with multiple banks, more crap than I care to remember, etc, etc. I cared about this deal because after it's all said and done, for my $32,000 + closing costs, I'll be earning around $1,700 per month net. I currently own 2 rentals (Sold one a few weeks ago to pay for this deal), and this was going to be my "catalyst" deal. At the moment, I'm earning around $500 a month net across both rentals I currently own. Respectable numbers by any measurement. If I had rolled my profits into another downpayment for my next place, it was going to take me quite a while (more than a year, not quite 2).

This deal brings my total net profits to around $2,200 per month, dropping my projected income replacement day by almost 2 full years!

This journey has been VERY trying at times.

My first commercial bank got bought out and would no longer loan to out of state investors.

My second bank wanted 25% down, plus 6 months worth of reserves for the properties, plus 6 months worth of reserves for my other properties, plus 6 months worth of reserves for my primary residence (even though it was a commercial loan), plus 6 months worth of my credit card payments, plus the tax returns of the seller, plus the lease agreements with the current tenants.

A third broker I was dealing with didn't understand for some reason I wanted it to be a commercial loan even though I repeatedly told him so.

A fourth banker finally got it, was responsive, and reasonable. They are the bank I'm using.

Finally got paperwork in today, signed, notarized, and sent off to FedEx about 2 hours ago.  As of tomorrow, this deal is done, closed, and I get my first rent payment on Saturday.  The houses are fully occupied.

So, all in all, it sucked at times, but with perseverance, it'll be worth it!

Post: When others call you lucky

Travis BeehlerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Vancouver, WA
  • Posts 308
  • Votes 144
Originally posted by @Jamie Montpellier:

I see... Well, keep doing what you are doing as it seems to be working out for you. Maybe he will wake up one day and realize his Apple computer isn't providing him a dime for his future.

Cheers!

 :)  Thanks!  Have a good weekend!

Post: When others call you lucky

Travis BeehlerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Vancouver, WA
  • Posts 308
  • Votes 144
Originally posted by @Jamie Montpellier:

@Travis Beehler

Maybe your friend is secretly envious and would love to tap into your knowledge and skill set.  Spend some time with him or her next time and ask them if they would like to more about this amazing opportunity you've created for yourself.  Call it whatever you want, I think we all know we're on to something here!

Cheers,

Jamie

 Yeah, I originally thought that when I first got into rentals.  I even went so far as to ask if he wants to get in on some deals, and benefit from what I've got set up and going.  He would always pass, and then turn around and buy a shiny object.  Usually an Apple product.  Now that he's seeing my success, and how my rentals are now equal to half my paycheck (after this deal closes here in a week), I think there's a hint of jealousy, and a lot of dismissal of my hard work.