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All Forum Posts by: Robert Dobbs

Robert Dobbs has started 3 posts and replied 110 times.

Post: How to invest $275K in cash?! Newbies need help thinking it out

Robert DobbsPosted
  • Residential Real Estate Agent
  • Delray Beach, FL
  • Posts 115
  • Votes 83



Hi! May I suggest you "hook-up" with a real estate investors club in the Nashville area. One I have heard of is the "Real Estate Investors of Nashville". Real estate investors clubs can give a "wealth of local real estate knowledge" for newbies, like you and your sister. "Check 'em out" to see if they have any live or virtual meetings or events upcoming. Meeting and "picking the brains" of fellow local "real estate contacts" can be very rewarding and may turn out to be very profitable! Good luck to you both!

Post: Heloc on bare land?

Robert DobbsPosted
  • Residential Real Estate Agent
  • Delray Beach, FL
  • Posts 115
  • Votes 83

If you asked me that same question, "pre-2006", ...prior to the "real estate bubble", I'd say yes, ...as certain banks were doing "land lending". But it all "crashed and burned" after the "real estate bubble". Land prices "peaked in 2006, 2007", and then land prices "nose-dived". Can you imagine that Florida land selling for $20,000 to $30,000 per lot, crashed down to as low as $2,500 per lot! Banks and lenders that were financing land ("pre-bubble"), were faced with "a ton of foreclosures". Towards the end of 2009, is when I began buying "land REOs" from banks. I didn't realize just how "motivated" certain banks were to unload their "land REO" inventory. In November 2009, I received an email ---------> "21 bank-owned" parcels for sale"! These were "Central Gulf Coast parcels" (an area called the "Nature Coast"). These 21 parcels (sizes: 1/2 acre to 1 acre each) were being offered for sale through a Realtor for $8,000.00 per parcel! I Googled these 21 parcels (I.e., "satellite and street views"). They looked beautiful and the area had some nice homes "scattered around". I never purchased vacant Florida parcels before. I "dug-deeper",...looking more into the "Nature Coast", ...Central Florida's "Gulf Coast", ...and I was impressed. I called the listing agent for the bank and said I'm interested in those 21 vacant REO lots. I explained that I'm a Realtor also, and I would like to offer $1,200 per lot for all 21 REO parcels. The agent said, "are you crazy?" The bank is asking $8,000 per parcel! I said to young Preston (the bank's Reator), "...we are both Realtors, so I'll send you a contract and just submit it to the bank and "let's see" what the bank says about my offer? He (young Preston) then said ok! I then got a call from Preston the agent the next day and he says to me, "Mr. Dobbs, I can't believe it! The bank accepted your offer! If you can close by the end of the "bank year" they will do the deal! Since the end of 2009 to 2020, I have directly purchased well over 500 vacant REO parcels from this same bank! And sold another 200 or so parcels as a Realtor for the bank. My reason for talking about this is this bank stopped loaning money for vacant land, except for REOs. They would offer 15 year financing for REOs (land) at "market pricing". If I brought them a buyer-prospect, let's say for one of those $8,000 lots (that they sold to me for $1,200) They would finance an "end buyer" for $8,000 for 15 years. Plus as they years went by, the bank also allowed me to make "bulk deals", with zero interest for 6 months (I called these bulk deals, "step-down" contracts). I would have to close on a minimum of 20% of the bulk deal each month, until all were closed (note: But I never had to go six months,...as I usually had sold all of the "bulk deal", ...within 30 to 60 days!). Since the "real estate bubble" buying and selling land, with a "ton of hard work", I'm proud to say, ...has changed my life!

Post: Vacant Land - Clear land or sell as is

Robert DobbsPosted
  • Residential Real Estate Agent
  • Delray Beach, FL
  • Posts 115
  • Votes 83

Good morning! My spin is: Unless your bush "over-growth" is causing complaints from adjoining land-owners, or creating "code-enforcement" issues, ...keep it "as-is"! 

Post: Partially Built House - Estimating completion costs

Robert DobbsPosted
  • Residential Real Estate Agent
  • Delray Beach, FL
  • Posts 115
  • Votes 83

I like those concrete blocks, separating that "wood underbelly" from the ground. May help defend against subterranean termites. Check-out the pre-construction building codes against subterranean termites to see if your existing "wood foundation" has been treated with the proper "long term sealing" protections needed in Florida.

Post: Partially Built House - Estimating completion costs

Robert DobbsPosted
  • Residential Real Estate Agent
  • Delray Beach, FL
  • Posts 115
  • Votes 83

Hello Stephanie, if you think you could use some local guidance, I may suggest you contact the Polk County Builders Association, Inc. I know they have been a big help to others. If they cannot help you directly, they may "put you in contact" with someone who can help you?

Post: Is it reccomendable to buy land?

Robert DobbsPosted
  • Residential Real Estate Agent
  • Delray Beach, FL
  • Posts 115
  • Votes 83

1.  Your best efforts to concentrate (I.e., "farm") in a particular area that you can relate to.

2.  Become a "student" of current land values (I.e, "recent comps" vs. "assessed values") in the particular area you chose.

3.  Once you establish a "price point" that you can purchase vacant parcels at a "price point" that allows you to sell "quickly" at "current selling prices".

"What's the trick" in finding good vacant land deals? Well it's making "tons of offers"! With the understanding that "life events" are happening "all the time" and this creates "motivated sellers" (I.e., "real estate investing 101"!!!).

In other words, many times, it's not just about "current land values", ...but it's about "live events" unfolding with the land owners (Sellers).

Health issues, death, disability, financial troubles, legal problems, "divorce or separation", job loss (which is a big deal now!), relocation, foreclosure, just to name some of the many possible current "life events" taking place, creating a "never-ending" batch of "motivated sellers".

This phrase, I've heard many, many times, over the years from Realtors: "Mr. Dobbs, ...I can't believe the Seller accepted your offer!"

Important to remember: Real estate agents mostly list vacant parcels at "current selling values" or higher. As Realtors try to get the "highest and best" pricing for their clients (Sellers). Much of the time these "life events" that "popped-up",  ...are NOT known to the selling agent (Realtor).

So once you "have a handle" on the "current selling values" of "that particular area" you chose to concentrate on, start making lots offers. You will be amazed how often you will "stumble-upon" super deals! On the surface, it will be seen as "lowballing" (low-ball offers), but actually you will appreciated by these "motivated sellers", as many times, the sale was not about the money, but about "life events" and simply, ..."the need to sell"!

I've "bought and sold" many 100s of vacant parcels, ...most were purchased "well below market" -------------> from "motivated sellers"!

Good luck to you!

Post: Vacant Land Marketing

Robert DobbsPosted
  • Residential Real Estate Agent
  • Delray Beach, FL
  • Posts 115
  • Votes 83

Hi Larissa! Have you done due diligence on this parcel? And maybe some questions to be answered about the Seller too:

Property valuation?

Taxes paid current?

Title issues?

Survey? 

Is parcel build-able? (Wetlands, sinkholes, marshlands, protected area, etc.)

Location, location, location?

Encroachment, eminent domain issues?

Unresolved or ongoing code enforcement issues?

Motivated Sellers? (Possible "life-events": I.e., ...Death, disability, divorce or separation, job relocation, financial problems ----> "pre or post" bankruptcy, legal problems ----> civil suits, criminal actions, ...and more!)

Why Seller wants or needs to market parcel "off-market"? Try to get an answer from this Seller. Lots to ponder Larissa and good luck to you!

Bob Dobbs, 

Post: Tax benefits of Land contract/Seller Financing

Robert DobbsPosted
  • Residential Real Estate Agent
  • Delray Beach, FL
  • Posts 115
  • Votes 83

I "owner-finance" vacant Florida parcels. Most of my deals are small "plated parcels" between 1/4 and 1/2 acres. My main "outlet-for selling" over the years has been on eBay. I "toot my own horn" loudly when I list an "owner-financing" deal:

No Qualifying! No Mortgages! No Banks! No Interest! Low Monthly Payments! No Realtors! (Except me! LOL!), No Property Taxes! No Closing Costs or "Junk Fees"! Clean, "Free and Clear" Title is 100% Guaranteed, or Your Money Back! -----------> These are some of my "long-winded perks" that I promote in my listings.

My "secret sauce" is a simple two-page "Rent-to-Own" agreement, plus a "Complimentary Payment Schedule", for the "Tenant-Buyer's" convenience and record-keeping.

Here's a typical deal for me: Let's say, I obtained a batch of 1/4 acre lots from a bank (REOs) or bought a bunch of donated Habitat for Humanity parcels, ...all at good deals, ..."below wholesale". Let's say my net cost for a nice 1/4 acre parcel in Central Florida is $1500. I would "offer-up" this vacant lot for just $60 down, and $135 per month for 24 months, ..."that's it!" So I would "gross" on this example: $3,300.00

So once the "Tenant-Buyer" completes all payments, I would create a Warranty Deed, legally transferring over title to the "Tenant-Buyer".

I explain to the "Tenant-Buyer" prospect because there is "no qualifying" to obtain this deal, my agreement is "quite punitive". For example, I have a "10-day grace period" for payments. If payment is not received within the "grace-period", ...a $50 late fee will due immediately! If two payments are past due, according to my agreement, I may simply cancel the agreement, without any notice! And all prior payments will be forfeited as "liquidated damages". Simply put, prior "defaulted-payments" will be considered as rent payments. Only when the "Tenant-Buyer" successfully completes all 24 monthly payments (per this example), I will "rent-credit" 100% of all (24) $135.00 payments (also crediting the $60 down payment / I.e., "escrow deposit"), as "payment-in-full" for this example.

Capital gains or losses will be due to "Uncle Sam", just as any other real estate deal. 

After figuring-out all allowable "IRS deductible expenses", to obtain your "cost-basis" for this example, you then "do the math" and pay "long-term capital gains" (or loss).

These deals are "never recorded" by me as a mortgage, contract for deed, etc. So the "Rent-to-Own" agreement is between me (the "Landlord-Seller") and the "Tenant-Buyer" (nothing recorded until deal is "paid-off")

In all my years using this "owner-financing" technique, I have never had to evict a defaulted buyer. My agreement does not allow any building, permits, no living on the property allowed, until property is paid-in-full! I never had a "Tenant-Buyer", "take me to Court", contesting the "Rent-to-Own" Agreement.

Over the years, on average, two out of every ten of my "Tenant-Buyers", do indeed default, ...and simply "walk away".

A number "Tenant-Buyers", do an early payoff (which I allow) in less than a year (instead of 24 months), so this deal would then become an IRS "short-term capital gain or loss", reported for that tax year when paid-off (as, no longer an IRS "long term capital gain or loss").

My "owner-financing" technique ("Rent-to-Own" or "Lease-to-Own"), is very simple for my "Tenant-Buyers" to understand, and "Rent-to-Own" has avoided "foreclosure costs and lengthy headaches" for me, as like I mentioned, an average of 2 in 10 of my "Tenant-Buyers" wind-up defaulting.

My advice to all of you is to keep detailed, accurate records of your costs and expenses of every deal. If you are "selling real estate over time", allowable expenses and deductible expenses "add-up" and need to be written down as they occur, so you can remember all those allowable deductions and expenses (if you don't keep ongoing records of expenses, as they occur, you may forget to add these expenses to your "cost-basis").

Good luck to you all and stay safe!

Bob Dobbs, Trustee and Settlor of the Land Rescue League Trust) 

Post: Multiple Properties on One Deed

Robert DobbsPosted
  • Residential Real Estate Agent
  • Delray Beach, FL
  • Posts 115
  • Votes 83

I would personally record all properties that are in the same County on one deed. You will be able to sell/transfer each parcel "one at a time" in the future, if you so desire.

In certain cases, if you refinance a parcel that had/has a mortgage, that is titled in your name, and you switch title into a trust, may not be allowed by the existing lender, to refinance with them. "Food for thought"?

If indeed you have existing financing all or some of you said "(8) SFR properties". Contact your existing lender to see what are their "rules of the road", when you transfer ownership from individual ownership, into a Trust.

Lenders that allow "financing or refinancing" for properties under a Trust, may want to see "specific language" in the Trust Agreement, that allows the Trust to mortgage (barrow against) properties held in the Trust.

Also note: Some lenders may require that the Trustee, is also the "sole beneficial owner" of the said underlying property(ies) held in Trust.

Other than "refinancing" properties held in a Trust, ...using one deed to transfer multiple properties should be OK! (In my opinion, you are correct! Use one deed if the properties are in the same County). Good luck to you!

Post: King or Queen of Lowballing?

Robert DobbsPosted
  • Residential Real Estate Agent
  • Delray Beach, FL
  • Posts 115
  • Votes 83

I want to take a moment to honor a real estate legend who passed away two months ago: CARLTON SHEETS

Carlton sold over 3 million copies of his "no money down" real estate investing package (and "tons of other books and RE courses!). I'm guessing this was history's "all-time best seller"  in real estate investing and I'm confident many who are posting here, "picked-up" some great real estate "investor tips" and "investor strategies" from this great "investor icon", over the decades!

"Rest in peace" Mr. Sheets. Many billions of dollars of real estate deals "found their roots" from you! Carlton Sheets described the definition of what a "motivated seller" was in plain terms, better than anyone I knew. 

All of us "Kings and Queens of Lowballing" can "follow the lead" of someone like Carlton Sheets, to help us understand the "nuts and bolts" of a "motivated seller". Many times it is not about "property values", "assessed or just values", or supply and demand", or in "good times or bad times". It can be as simple of life events of the seller, making the seller "motivated to sell". And many times not about the "final selling price" (I.e, "LOWBALLING!").

"Death, disability, loss of job, separation or divorce, probate, relocation, tax issues, legal problems", ...just to name a few "life events" that can lead to a so-called "lowball over and acceptance". It's not always about the money, many times a "motivated seller" just needs to sell period! And many times a "motivated seller" will be very pleased that they accepted your "lowball price" and will sincerely thank you for your help!

And a listing agent for that "motivated seller" just might say to you, like has been said to me soooooooooooo many times, 

"...Mr. Dobbs, I can't believe the Seller accepted your offer"! LOL!

When I "write-up" my next "lowball deal" I will think of you Mr. Carlton Sheets!

Sincerely, Bob Dobbs Trustee and Settlor of the Land Rescue League Trust