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All Forum Posts by: Par Attaran

Par Attaran has started 19 posts and replied 78 times.

Post: Morris Invest Case Study 2.0

Par AttaranPosted
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  • Rocklin, CA
  • Posts 83
  • Votes 77

Post: Morris Invest Case Study 2.0

Par AttaranPosted
  • Investor
  • Rocklin, CA
  • Posts 83
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Originally posted by @Account Closed:

 I don't even get what you're trying to say LOL

Post: Morris Invest Case Study 2.0

Par AttaranPosted
  • Investor
  • Rocklin, CA
  • Posts 83
  • Votes 77

Nothing makes sense anymore 

Hahahahahhahahahahahahaha

Originally posted by @Patti Robertson:

@Par Attaran - I'm a landlord, property manager, and do a lot of SEC 8.  These charges all look normal and reasonable to me.  I'm guessing you recently purchased and rehabbed this.  Often times when a property has sat vacant for a while the plumbing lines have to be snaked shortly after someone moves in.  $199 seems a little high unless it was an after hours/emergency charge, which it may have been if you only have one toilet.  SEC 8 requires screens and handrails, and really should should provide them for any tenant, so you should really consider that this was an accidental omission of your rehab. The GFI install corrected a code violation that was also a rehab omission and the charge for that was below the normal charge for an electrician to do the repair.  

The floodlights and blinds appear to be the only optional items to me, but there could be a reason the PM felt those to be necessary based on the location.

Check your PM agreement for the repair approval allowance. Normally there is a dollar limit they can approve without your permission.  Independently these probably all fall under that total.  Did you walk the property with the PM in the beginning?  I usually point out items that will need to be addressed so the owner can choose to take care of them before we take over.

Just curious - where is this building?  A rent of $695/month is really low so I'm sure it's not in CA where your profile says you live.

The good news is the SEC 8 rent will show up like clockwork and SEC 8 tenants generally stay in lease terms longer than non-SEC 8 tenants.  Good luck on your new rental!

 Good to know these are normal. We expected some repairs just not that many. Learning experience going forward. 

Property is in Jacksonville. That only shows a portion of the rent, full rent is actually $925. 

We hired a property manager Dec-1-2016. They rented out our completely rehabbed property Jan-1 to a Sec 8 tenant. We have never used Sec 8 before and were not familiar with Sec 8 inspections or requirements, but decided to give it a shot as our other properties are not Sec 8. 

Upon checking our recent statement I noticed around $1000+ in repairs 

Our Property Manager is currently looking into the charges. We are being told "Its normal for Sec 8 to require some repairs and or additional items/ad ons"     

Our Management agreement states "Management will obtain prior approval of Owner for any item or service in excess of $400, except for monthly or recurring expenses and emergency repairs"

We were only notified of these repairs until AFTER they were completed. 

Is this normal for Sec 8 inspections and repairs? Can our PM just randomly charge us for this stuff with out consulting us first since its a "requirement by Sec 8 and must be completed" 

Thanks for any help :) 

Post: Morris Invest Case Study 2.0

Par AttaranPosted
  • Investor
  • Rocklin, CA
  • Posts 83
  • Votes 77

🤔

Post: Morris Invest Case Study 2.0

Par AttaranPosted
  • Investor
  • Rocklin, CA
  • Posts 83
  • Votes 77
Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:

@Par Attaran  thanks I would not know how to find that.

there are people who can make C class work.. but those are locals who do it for a living and they don't hire someone like Morris and their rehab crews to create a rental for them.

its unfortunate that those that have fallen for this hyperbole don't chime in more.. but that is the way of the world.

AS for nay sayers or experience.. there are tons of experienced folks that came before this dude..

and I have personally seen posts from those that have traveled there looked at the product and neighborhoods and just simply passed on it.. neighborhoods poor.. rehab EXTREMLY poor PM

time will tell.. going to be a lot of broken hearts and wallets come out of this operation I can tell you that.

Just the IDEA that low end rentals are easier to manage than top end rentals is just so ludicrous I can't believe  ONE he makes that statement  and TWO anyone would believe it. 

 What I don't understand: Why hasn't Clayton (who has an account here) come on the BP forums and answered questions?  Nearly all other Turn Keys come here and kindly answer people's questions and concerns. 

Just seems like an odd business practice to shovel everything under the rug. When people leave bad Yelp or Tripadvisor reviews, management will immediately come out and respond. This doesn't sound like a good long term business plan. 

Post: Morris Invest Case Study 2.0

Par AttaranPosted
  • Investor
  • Rocklin, CA
  • Posts 83
  • Votes 77
Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:

@Eddie T.  are you saying after all these long threads of the inconsistancies of this outfit.  BP put him on another BP podcast or is this one of HIS podcasts.. ???

 his recent podcast- 

Post: Morris Invest Case Study 2.0

Par AttaranPosted
  • Investor
  • Rocklin, CA
  • Posts 83
  • Votes 77


Checked out the most recent Podcast and Clayton is pretty much calling out BP now. 

"Don't listen to people on internet forums, they sit around typing all day with out taking action" 

Hahahahhahahahaha

Post: Tell me how to NOT get screwed in a bad economy ?

Par AttaranPosted
  • Investor
  • Rocklin, CA
  • Posts 83
  • Votes 77
Originally posted by @Jeff B.:

I bought in 1997 and survived the 2008 down turn.  Yes, vacancies were up, good tenants were hard to find.  How DID I survive?  Owning a 6-unit MFU with good cash flow.  When I bought, I calc'd the break-even point - - how much occupancy does it take to end up with net zero profits.  For me that was 70% - - aka 4.2 units - - and that was THE METRIC I used for  the purchase decision.

Over the years, I've only had one occurrence of 3 concurrent vacancies and that was due to a fire, not normal vacancy per se.

Multiple rents saved the day.

 curious: did you own that multi family free and clear or carry a mortgage on it?