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All Forum Posts by: Owen Rosen

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Post: Good Insurance for the Rental Property

Owen RosenPosted
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  • Keego Harbor, MI
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Quote from @Injung Kim:

End of September, I am closing my first rental property. Looking for a good insurance for rental property. I am trying to figure out that I have an appropriate insurance to cover the property.  Thank you!

Work with a knowledgeable independent agent/broker

Post: Renters Insurance: How do you explain it to the tenant?

Owen RosenPosted
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Quote from @Rachel Degutz:

Does needing renter's insurance apply to people renting out my garage to store cars? Or does their auto insurance cover this?


 Depends what we're trying to cover.  Coverage for those vehicles?  They need proper car insurance and they need to indicate to their insurer where the cars are garaged/stored.

Post: new to rental business/ DSCR

Owen RosenPosted
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Quote from @Tekoa Glover:

Thanks. What does the DP3 mean


 It's a type of "Dwelling Policy."  I wouldn't worry too much about this terminology though as different companies have different names for similar things.  Insurance jargon is annoying and many terms are synonymous or just plain confusing.  Work with a knowledgeable independent agent.

Post: STR insurance in Blue Ridge GA

Owen RosenPosted
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Quote from @Kelly Fernandez:

I'm also looking for STR insurance and having a hard time finding a company that will insure. The only quote I've received is from State Farm.


 Where is your property?

Post: Issues Getting Rental Property Insurance Policy in Michigan

Owen RosenPosted
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  • Keego Harbor, MI
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This is somewhat hard to follow but I think what you're saying is that your business partner filed a personal articles insurance claim and they ran a loss history report on your partner when applying for insurance on this duplex?

Is the duplex owned by an entity or partnership of individuals or...?

Many companies when applying for a dwelling policy will run an insurance score and loss history report (CLUE report) on an individual in control of the entity even if the policy will be in the name of a business.  Apparently, State Farm is declining coverage for one unrelated claim which is quite hilarious but perhaps there are unsaid reasons for that or other past claims.

Anyway, if you apply for the insurance either as the individual named insured or as the person in control of the entity the claim your partner had would never come up.  That said, depending on the carrier, the pricing might be different with you as the insured vs. your partner if the carrier uses insurance scoring.

Post: Insurance Coverage Issues w/ LLCs

Owen RosenPosted
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  • Keego Harbor, MI
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Quote from @Dan Schwartz:

@Neera Melwani State Farm offers a policy that may interest you. I don't know if it's available in all 50 states or not. The title I see is Rental Dwelling Policy - Special Form. It requires a 1% or 2% deductible and the house must be in an LLC. Ask an agent.


 Lots of companies offer dwelling policies that accommodate personal or entity owned properties.  Deductibles vary by carrier, state, property.  State Farm would vary by state as well on things like the minimum deductible.

Post: Recommendations on Liability Insurance

Owen RosenPosted
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  • Keego Harbor, MI
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Quote from @Jon Schwartz:

@Dane Jutila, have you inquired with any insurers about an umbrella policy? This is a personal liability policy that goes into effect after the personal liability on your other policies (car or home) is exhausted. It might be more expensive than usual because your property insurance has no personal liability coverage, but it's a good route if it's available to you.


 Doesn't work that way in terms of being more expensive. Without underlying coverage, an umbrella won't apply.  

An independent insurance broker should be able to provide coverage.

Post: Homeowners Insurance Policy for Rentals

Owen RosenPosted
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Quote from @Jesse Thomas:

I would definitely recommend using an Insurance Broker rather than trying to call around yourself. There are so many variables its hard to compare apples to apples with different carriers. The brokers will more than likely be able to find you a better deal and save you a lot of time. 


 Yep, and some brokers represent some of the companies that also sell directly and we do it with better service.

Post: Landlord Insurance for Rental Property

Owen RosenPosted
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  • Keego Harbor, MI
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Quote from @Michael Greco:

I had arranged landlord insurance coverage for my rental property, but when I questioned my insurance agent I learned that it did not cover STR (short term rentals), or rental terms of less than 12 months.

I identified an insurance company(American Modern Insurance) for rentals of any term length but they do not want to provide coverage if the house is rented to students.

Ideally I am looking for an insurance policy that covers rental terms of any length and has no conditions on who I rent to.

Are there any recommendations?


 Work with a broker...but you'll always have to identify how and changes to how you use a property.  That's how they price the risk.

Post: House Flipping Insurance

Owen RosenPosted
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  • Keego Harbor, MI
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Quote from @Bob Stevens:
Quote from @Chengning Yang:

What kind of insurance do rehabbers get? Builders risk insurance with general liability? Which company would you recommend? I'm currently looking for one for a single family one story home without HOA.


 Simple my Ins co, calls it vacant insurance. Just call your insurance co. Do you have a deal you are working on ?


 Vacant property insurance in and of itself is not enough to cover during remodeling.  It depends on what work is being done and the rules of the particular insurance company/policy.  Talk to your agent and don't try to hide material facts about what you're planning to do.  Will only cause issues in the long run.