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All Forum Posts by: Owen Rosen

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Post: TX/OK-Personal Homes&Cars//LTR's Umbrella Coverage

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Quote from @Bethany Peysen:

Hello All,

This is probably a long shot, but it's worth an ask. The craziness of keeping up with multiple personal and business insurance policies is beginning to wear on me and I was wondering if anyone knew of an agent/company that would offer some sort of "umbrella" policy that would cover a group of assets in both TX & OK similar to these; Primary (valued at over 2M) and secondary home (valued at around $500K), personal higher end cars over $100K/exotic & classic, boats, 2 LTR homes all in Texas and 2 LTR homes in Oklahoma?

Any advice helps!

Thank you!,

Bethany H


 Insuring all of these disparate assets on one policy is not possible

Post: Insurance Broker?-Evaluating and Shopping Insurance for an Existing Portfolio

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Quote from @Shane Swart:

Hi Kevin,

Thanks for responding. 

We are not with an independent agent. We have been working with the same agent at a larger regional insurance company firm for 15+ years and we have a good relationship. Our concern is that we are limited to their company policies and do not get the benefit of seeing what else is out there.

We have had a recent meeting with them to review all of the policies and coverages and feel good about coverage, etc.

I know we may not find significant costs savings out there with current conditions but would like that validation of that if true. We have been loyal clients with no claims yet still have noticeable cost creep unfortunately.
 


 Strongly recommend working with an Independent Agent and agree with Kevin on finding someone that can advise and answer questions that you trust.

Post: My insurance cost went up 20% need a good insurance agent at a reasonable price

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I'd recommend an Independent Agency.  An agency that works with other investors might have access to Obie, Steadily, and the IA version of NREIG plus other options.  We do.  

All policies are not the same and most have many options that can drastically change coverage.  It's best to have a professional that can explain things to you rather than a call center.

Post: In search of Recommendations for Landlord insurance

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Quote from @Rob Carey:

Insurance with normal providers (State Farm, Farmers, Travelers) goes up 30% for third year in a row. Anyone have a good, more affordable option? I'm looking into Steadily after seeing their add on a Bigger Pockets newsletter. Thanks!


 Work with an Independent Agency rather than a captive like State Farm.  For instance, we represent some of the markets investors approach directly such as Steadily/Obie but we also have access to carriers that only write through Independent Agencies.

Post: Home Insurance brokers needed

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Quote from @Abiy Tedla:

I'm in search of insurance brokers that can help me get some quotes for refi requirement from a lender asking for a DP3 policy for a duplex in Cleveland.  Please PM if you know some good brokers.  Thanks!


 Sent a DM.

Post: Rental Insurance Referrals

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Quote from @Jordan Ray:
Quote from @Ali MirRasekhian:

Hello,

I just went under contract on a duplex in Memphis and had reached out to my agent with State Farm (who already insures my other rental, our primary residence and auto) who sent me a quote then called me an hour later to say that they are unable to insure this property due to a no-pay claim on our primary residence back in August of 2022. 

Needless to say I was pretty upset with my agents incompetence at sending me a quote before doing his due diligence and now need to find another company/broker to work with and potentially move everything from State Farm.


Does anyone have any good insurance broker recommendations they can send over?


Thanks!


Wow! That's not a situation I have ever experienced. By chance, do you have any ties to the military and can get USAA? That's who I use. Otherwise, you could try the other big ones: Progressive, All State, Farm Bureau, etc.


 I would recommend the opposite.  Use an independent agent that represents multiple companies and can work on your behalf.

Post: Tenant caused water damage to unit AND neighboring unit

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Quote from @Steve Cho:

Hi all,

New landlord here (<1 year) on a small apartment unit in a 32-unit complex. I own a unit on the second floor.

5 days ago, my tenant apparently left the kitchen sink on and caused flooding. Unfortunately, this led to a fairly substantial amount of water leaking to the unit below and causing at least some visible wall/ceiling damage.

My tenant caused the flooding (he has admitted in writing that this was the case). Per his lease (and common sense), he should cover the cost of repairs to my unit and the unit below, but I have a lot of questions that hopefully the veterans here could help with...

1) Does my homeowners insurance need to be involved at all? I am not sure yet how much the repairs will be (a plumber is coming by later today and the restoration team will likely come tonight or tomorrow), but this could be fairly extensive. With my tenant being responsible for the damages, is there any reason to involve my insurance? It will likely just raise my premium no? Or is this something that should be dealt with by my tenant's renter's insurance?

2) Without insurance coverage, this will likely be a couple thousand dollars. What is the best way to proceed with getting that payment from the tenant? If I make the initial payments, he will have to reimburse me, but if he can't do a lump sum payment, how to best go about that?

3) In the event that my home insurance should be used, it doesn't strictly mention adjacent unit damage. If the repairs are such that it takes a few days or even longer, the tenant for the unit below will likely need to be accomodated for. My insurance covers for loss of rents for my unit, but obviously wouldn't cover the unit below. If the tenant for the unit below needs to be rehoused for a short period of time, what would be the best course of action for this?

As I write this, I am realizing this is more complicated than I initially thought...but these are some of my most critical questions. I would really appreciate insight!!


Thank you.


 1. The short answer is no. You don't have to involve insurance if you arrange for repairs on your own.

2. This is not my area of expertise but I'm sure some of the other investors here will have suggestions

3. Your insurance will likely not directly pay loss of use for adjacent units. The other resident could file a claim and their insurance could subrogate against your insurance though.

Post: Umbrella Insurance Inquiry

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Quote from @John Cezar Dimaano:

@Owen Rosen @Wesley W. You are right. So to clarify- American Modern -Dwelling with liability (1M)- 1,975.00.   vs.  The Robert Family Insurance Agency Inc -California Fair plan (262) +  Aegis policy (733) + Umbrella 322 for 1M. total of 1317.


 You really need to talk to a licensed agent.  Ideally the ones that are actually writing these policies for you.  Ask them questions.  Ask them to compare and contrast the options.

1. You need to find out if the American Modern policy and Aegis policy are covering the same perils.  My guess is one might be special form and the other basic.  Are they both full replacement cost?

2. $1 million of premises liability on the dwelling policy is not the same thing as an umbrella.

3. I suspect you know you're comparing things that are not necessarily comparable otherwise you'd probably be rushing to take the less expensive option.

Post: Umbrella Insurance Inquiry

Owen Rosen
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Are you sure this is for umbrella insurance or dwelling insurance with liability coverage for the property?

Post: Insurance for a duplex

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Quote from @Terence Purnell:

I'm buying my first duplex as rental property.  Can someone recommend insurance companies for rental properties?


 Sent a DM