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All Forum Posts by: Owen Rosen

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Post: Trying to do the right thing regarding an insurance claim

Owen Rosen
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Quote from @Ken M.:
Quote from @Owen Rosen:
Quote from @Ken M.:
Quote from @Clayton Silva:
Quote from @Mark Towey:

Hey, thanks for sharing this — I’m still pretty new to how insurance claims work, so I had a quick question:

If the insurance company approves the $12K estimate, do they just cut you a check for that amount no matter what, or do they usually wait to see receipts or proof of work before paying it all out?

I’ve never had to file a claim like this, so I’m trying to wrap my head around what’s normal or allowed. Appreciate any insight — this was helpful to read through!

They send an adjuster who will confirm/deny the cost.  They cut you a check for the amount that the adjuster confirms (best case adjuster says 12k is reasonable) then they will cut the check for 12k - deductible (say he is carrying a $2500 deductible he would get a check from insurance for 9500). 

I have not seen nor heard of an insurance company paying 100% to make an insured whole. 
I'd love to hear the story and circumstances if someone has one.
As stated, the amount paid is determined by the adjustor. He works for the insurance company.  His job is to make the insurance company profitable, not to make you whole. 


Huh?  This is ludicrous.

Silly you.
It's a fact.
Who determines the amount of loss??????

 Let's take deductibles out of the equation.  Using the example from this threat, you're saying the insurance company will NEVER give the insured $7,000 or $12,000 and he'll have to pay for the repair out of pocket or the property won't be repaired? No.

All that being said, @Marc Shin do you know how much (if any) service line coverage you have?  This coverage is typically optional and usually capped at $10,000 or $15,000 so you should double check that if you haven't already.

Post: Trying to do the right thing regarding an insurance claim

Owen Rosen
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  • Clinton Township, MI
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Quote from @Ken M.:
Quote from @Clayton Silva:
Quote from @Mark Towey:

Hey, thanks for sharing this — I’m still pretty new to how insurance claims work, so I had a quick question:

If the insurance company approves the $12K estimate, do they just cut you a check for that amount no matter what, or do they usually wait to see receipts or proof of work before paying it all out?

I’ve never had to file a claim like this, so I’m trying to wrap my head around what’s normal or allowed. Appreciate any insight — this was helpful to read through!

They send an adjuster who will confirm/deny the cost.  They cut you a check for the amount that the adjuster confirms (best case adjuster says 12k is reasonable) then they will cut the check for 12k - deductible (say he is carrying a $2500 deductible he would get a check from insurance for 9500). 

I have not seen nor heard of an insurance company paying 100% to make an insured whole. 
I'd love to hear the story and circumstances if someone has one.
As stated, the amount paid is determined by the adjustor. He works for the insurance company.  His job is to make the insurance company profitable, not to make you whole. 


Huh?  This is ludicrous.

Post: Insurance Companies for small investors

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Quote from @Cecilia Fields:

Hello everyone! I am back for some more valuable insight. I'm currently under contract on two properties, one in Michigan and one in Missouri. I am looking for a company that offers reasonable quotes for insurance. I just received a quote for the Michigan property that was 12k a year. Is that normal? I'd love to see what companies you recommend. 

Thank you! 


 Sent a DM

Post: Rental Property Insurance Question

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Quote from @Catie Fihn:

What kind of insurance does everyone carry on their rentals?  We have a handful of rentals in our portfolio and I'm analyzing the coverage we already have.  We carry replacement cost on property and replacement cost on roof. Personal property coverage, liability...what else does everyone add to their policies?

 Totally depends on the property and some things vary by state as well.

In addition to some of the things @Mackaylee Beach mentioned some policies add coverage for service lines, backup of sewer/drains, or separate policies for flooding. There are also a lot of potential variable such as limitations for water damage.

Post: Flood Insurance Company Options

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sent a DM

Post: Insurance companies for 5+ multifamily dwelling in Houston TX

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Quote from @Chaitanya Kasturi:

I am looking for any leads with Insurance companies that offer insurance on a 5+ multi-family dwelling in Houston TX. The building was originally built in 1950. We have replaced the roof in January of this year. We purchased this property in Dec 2024 and has a rent roll of $4700 / month. 


 Sent a DM

Post: What's Up With Insurance in Connecticut

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Quote from @Kevin Jo:

Here is the problem in a nutshell. Once upon a time you paid insurance for outstanding liability like what you owed on your mortgage. So lets say insurance coverage of $300k because thats what your mortgage was on a multi family. Then, insurance companies got smart and started charging for replacement cost and eventually that became the norm. So nowadays replacement costs increase every year and after covid it basically went nuts because of materials and labor. An example: I own a 3 family with a mortgage of $260k, Value $500k, Replacement cost according to insurance company is 1 million. So I now pay insurance on a 1 million dollar multi family. It is absolutely ridiculous and a giant scam. It does not matter who you go to, all the insurance companies are doing it. There is no way my multi family would cost 1 million to build out, land doesn't burn and I'm a GC.


 It's your mortgage company requiring you to insure to replacement cost - not the insurance company. If you didn't have a mortgage you could insure the property for market value/actual cash value minus the land value most likely.

How many square feet and units is the property you're talking about?

Post: Houston-Harris County Landlord Insurance issue- How are you dealing with no coverage?

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Quote from @Mak K.:
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What type of properties?  1-4 unit or 5+ units?


9 SFH properties. Single Family. No Morgage. All paid and clear. year 1990+ & all has new roof installed 2022 to 2025

 Gotcha.  You should have a bit more flextibility with owning the homes free & clear but it's still a tight market.  I sent a DM as well.

Post: How much should I insure my first rental property?

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Quote from @Victor N.:

Hi all, 

Just entered a contract for my first rental unit. A SFH priced at 252K, 4 beds, 2 bathrooms and 1 garage. About 1500 sqf and it's a new build. How much insurance should I buy for this? Any general parameters? Thanks!


 Have you spoken to an insurance agent about this?  You'll likely have to/want to insure the property to full replacement cost with special form perils.  You should carry enough liability coverage to protect your assets in the event of a lawsuit even after defense costs.

Post: Houston-Harris County Landlord Insurance issue- How are you dealing with no coverage?

Owen Rosen
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  • Clinton Township, MI
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What type of properties?  1-4 unit or 5+ units?