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All Forum Posts by: Nicholas Burch

Nicholas Burch has started 28 posts and replied 100 times.

Post: Real estate debt funds

Nicholas BurchPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • orlando, FL
  • Posts 104
  • Votes 28
Quote from @Doug Smith:
Quote from @Nicholas Burch:
Quote from @Doug Smith:

Hi @Nicholas Burch, I want to better understand what you're asking. Are you wanting the process by which a loan is made...like a checklist? Are you looking for a pitch deck to raise capital for a private debt fund? As a neighbor from down the road in Tampa, I'm happy to help, but I want to clarify what exactly you're needing. Thanks so much. 

I should have clarified what I meant. I am interested in seeing how large commercial loans are originated by a sponsor. Ie 50M+ loans for the purpose of primary lien debt on a property. I am realizing this information is privileged, I guess I will have to find this information by other means.I should have clarified what I meant. I am interested in seeing how large commercial loans are originated from a sponsor. Ie 50M+ loans for the purpose of primary lien debt on a property. I am realizing this information is privileged, I guess I will have to find this information by other means.

Sure, there are connections and a few items that we probably wouldn't share info about...that's how we make our money...but I can share some basics. I wish I had $50M in my small change pocket to lend out, but alas, I don't. We get our money from large hedge funds and insurance companies. Most huge commercial loans are backed by funds, insurance companies, or CMBSs (Commercial Mortgage Backed Securities). They all have their guidelines of what they will buy and not buy. Our job is to really put an amazing loan file together that they can get in and tear apart without finding something to decline the loan for. I've been a lender for 33 years now and I spent more than a decade of that time as a commercial lender with huge banks doing these big loans. A lot of the deals I get are from banker buddies of mine or are referrals from my past contacts. I'll talk through the need with the borrowers/guarantors and try to structure a loan that meets their need. Once we figure out a structure, I'll think "if I were underwriting this loan, what would I need to see" and then I work with the borrower to gather that information & do the "spreads" and ratios. The most important part of the process, believe it or not for a commercial loan, is the Loan Officer Memorandum. They are required in each submission at a commercial bank, so I prepare a write up where I not only create a narrative to have the underwriters understand the deal, but then I play devils advocate. What weaknesses does this file have? I then address those issues in the bullet points. "Here is a weakness and here is the mitigant for why you shouldn't be worried about it." I bullet point cash flows, credit inquiries, any questions on the credit report and bank statements. Basically, I try to construct a bullet-proof file with tons of documentation to make the deal fly through. This is what I get paid to do. I am not sure if that answers your question or not, but I hope it helps you. 

 Still, Doug, I am left with the question of what that loan syndication looks like on paper from a distribution standpoint. For example, I am very familiar with syndications from an asset ownership standpoint. I understand GP-LP splits, preferred return, promote over preferred return, equity multiple, etc. Let's say a broker wants to lend on a 125-million-dollar skyscraper in Manhattan. No fund is going to employ all of its capital on one asset, as its job is to provide risk-adverse returns. In this situation, I would imagine 2 or more hedge funds come together to fund the deal and are provided returns. Is the terminology the same in this situation, what's the typical returns? That is what I am dying to know.

Post: Real estate debt funds

Nicholas BurchPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • orlando, FL
  • Posts 104
  • Votes 28
Quote from @Doug Smith:

Hi @Nicholas Burch, I want to better understand what you're asking. Are you wanting the process by which a loan is made...like a checklist? Are you looking for a pitch deck to raise capital for a private debt fund? As a neighbor from down the road in Tampa, I'm happy to help, but I want to clarify what exactly you're needing. Thanks so much. 

I should have clarified what I meant. I am interested in seeing how large commercial loans are originated by a sponsor. Ie 50M+ loans for the purpose of primary lien debt on a property. I am realizing this information is privileged, I guess I will have to find this information by other means.I should have clarified what I meant. I am interested in seeing how large commercial loans are originated from a sponsor. Ie 50M+ loans for the purpose of primary lien debt on a property. I am realizing this information is privileged, I guess I will have to find this information by other means.

Post: Real estate debt funds

Nicholas BurchPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • orlando, FL
  • Posts 104
  • Votes 28
Quote from @Chris Seveney:
Quote from @Nicholas Burch:

I would like to see how it is underwritten as a sponser! 

@Chris Seveney


 I doubt a sponsor is going to share their proforma model with you as that is privileged information. It also depends a lot on the type of debt fund. There is a lot that goes into it such as:

Are the LP's debt or equity

Does the fund originate or buy on secondary market

What lien position does the fund buy

Does the fund buy performing, non performing or both

How is the fee structure

Is there a B-D involved 

What is the fund structure (SEC compliant or exemption)

I should have clarified what I meant. I am interested in seeing how large commercial loans are originated from a sponsor. Ie 50M+ loans for the purpose of primary lien debt on a property. I am realizing this information is privileged, I guess I will have to find this information by other means.

Being that operators on the ownership side share the intricacies of their pro forma or fund with LPs, why wouldn't debt sponsors share? It is free marketing?

Post: Real estate debt funds

Nicholas BurchPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • orlando, FL
  • Posts 104
  • Votes 28
Quote from @Don Konipol:
Quote from @Nicholas Burch:

I would like to see how it is underwritten as a sponser! 

@Chris Seveney

1. Loan application is submitted either direct from a borrower or via a mortgage broker
2. If the loan request does not include pertinent preliminary information we request the
applicant to fill out our loan application form either online or through email
3. We review the loan application and any supporting documents provided and make a
decision as to whether the loan meets our lending parameters
4. If we need more documentation to make a decision we will request specific documents.
Otherwise we make a decision as to our interest in providing the requested financing.
5. If we are interested in making the loan we issue a Letter of Interest (LOI) stating the terms
of the loan and the requirements needed to be met before closing. We also request a deposit to pay for an appraisal performed by an appraiser holding the MAI designation (unless the borrower has an acceptable recent appraisal) and to pay for an environmental screen of the subject property. The average cost of an MAI appraisal for a small or middle market property is $3000 - $4000. The cost of an environmental screen is $475.
6. If the borrower wants to move forward under the terms of the Letter of Interest then they sign the LOI and wire/ACH funds to pay for appraisal and environmental screen.
7. We run the environmental screen. Assuming it comes back “low risk” we then contact a number of MAI appraisers in the area of the subject property and ask for their fees and time estimate. We choose the best combination of cost and time.
8. We open title at one of the major title companies
9. When the appraisal and preliminary title report are completed we review to insure that
subject property meets our requirements/expectations and title is ‘clear’.
10. We send the borrower a term sheet restating the terms of the LOI and disclosing any other
items/documents needed t close.
11. Our attorney draws up closing documents and sends them to title company for closing.

 I appreciate the lengthy post, but this was not what I am referring to. I would like to see how commercial real estate debt debt funds look like on paper(ie syndicated funds).  @Don Konipol

Post: Real estate debt funds

Nicholas BurchPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • orlando, FL
  • Posts 104
  • Votes 28

I would like to see how it is underwritten as a sponser! 

@Chris Seveney

Post: Real estate debt funds

Nicholas BurchPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • orlando, FL
  • Posts 104
  • Votes 28

Does anyone have a real estate debt fund deck they can share with me? I am familiar with underwriting from an asset operator perspective, but not the debt side!

Post: Looking for potential gap equity partners

Nicholas BurchPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • orlando, FL
  • Posts 104
  • Votes 28

Hey all,

I am looking for gap equity partners to take on single-family home flips in central Florida. I have a proposal deck for a recent deal I submitted an offer on! Shoot me a message and I walk you through the partnership details!

Post: Looking for reliable and insured contractors!

Nicholas BurchPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • orlando, FL
  • Posts 104
  • Votes 28

Interesting, how would they prospect clients without doing walkthroughs? If you don't mention you actually closed on it, how would they know the difference? Most won't pick up the phone and call the listing agent to see if you already closed it.

Personally, I won't close on a deal I don't have a concrete plan for. And of course, things pop up but my underwriting accounts for that. The quote provides me with a baseline because I am not a GC noir am I a material specialist.

@Ray Hage

Post: Looking for reliable and insured contractors!

Nicholas BurchPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • orlando, FL
  • Posts 104
  • Votes 28

I need some solid contractors for single family home flips. Recently just put in an offer on a property. Unfortunately, I got outbid, but I had 3 contractors walk the place and quote with the scope of work needed. The bids came in all over the place and only one guy was able to present me with proof of insurance and license.

Help deeply appreciated!

Post: Which business licenses/permit needed for STR in Polk county

Nicholas BurchPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • orlando, FL
  • Posts 104
  • Votes 28
@Josh Green@Dom Radcliffe

I have ben told to apply for and obtain Florida state business license/permit and a county business license/permit to operate STR in Polk county, FL. Can anyone already in this area help with advising if I need anything else? Thank you!

 So how many licenses do you need and how long does it usually take, if you happen to know?